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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 31, 2011 22:22:01 GMT -5
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Post by Cam on Dec 31, 2011 22:29:11 GMT -5
I like that (assuming it's Jericho) they've made these promos harder to decipher than Save_Us.222.
And they haven't dragged it on for 2 months.
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Post by Starshine on Dec 31, 2011 22:30:58 GMT -5
Other: Eugene.
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Post by crabnebula on Dec 31, 2011 22:31:40 GMT -5
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Post by bigmackdaddy on Dec 31, 2011 22:51:11 GMT -5
Fedor
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Post by TheVoiceofReason on Dec 31, 2011 23:08:00 GMT -5
I'd like to recommend that there be a third thread for this come Monday...
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Post by trollrogue on Dec 31, 2011 23:32:45 GMT -5
Okay, before the new year starts I'm gonna make my bold prediction on this whole thang right here, right now. First, a transcript of the official videos, followed by my analysis: (official link from WWE RAW broadcast) Child Narrator: Come my people and shut thy doors about thee. For a power shall come to punish the meek for their inequity. For on the second day of 2012 a familiar force shall arrive to claim what is his. And it will be the end of the world as you know it... www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLk96-SN5w(unofficial) Child Narrator: The power cometh is a thief in the night, to claim what others have taken. Those who are unjust, destruction shall come upon them, and they shall not escape. The second day of 2012 is coming, and it shall be the end of the world as you know it... www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4JRwE8ZkU(unofficial) CN: Behold, the power will come with vengeance to render his anger with fury. The deception the weak have perpetrated will be castigated. The second day of 2012 the prophet will emerge and destroy the weak. It will be the end of the world as you know it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvoZa0aKmP0(unofficial) CN: As he sat upon the mount, the question arose: When shall things be? And what shall be the sign of my coming? He answered: when She tells us. She holds the mystery of my arrival... of my rebirth. For when I beckon her, I will return to claim what is mine. And things will never be the same again. On the second day of 2012, it will be the end of the world as you know it! www.youtube.com/watch?v=BavdahP75Fw(unofficial) Female Child Narrator: I cannot help you anymore. Do you understand?? (believe me-- this is the girl talking, not the boy. Hours of debate have already gone into the boy/girl thing here at mi casa so TRUST ME) www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgyJsaXuOxg(unofficial) CN: The Force shall arrive... to reclaim what is his! Powers that Be, will be shaken. The Force shall arrive. FCN: Do you understand??
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Post by trollrogue on Dec 31, 2011 23:46:20 GMT -5
Prediction: The first three videos personify a face, clearly. It is a righteous person who is coming to punish the 'meek' and destroy the 'unjust'. So this gives clear Undertaker vibes, obviously.
But starting with the 4th video the introduction of the girl gives me pause and makes me wonder what other possibilities could lay hidden. It seems to me that Taker was the original target of these videos, but after time things were swayed to fit into another Superstars' persona. The easy guess is obviously Jericho, but that still wouldn't explain who 'she' was-- is she the WWE Championship? The Royal Rumble victory? Or perhaps the iconic status of 'People's Champion' that both Rock and Jericho coveted?
The 'power' and the 'Force' that is going to claim what 'others have taken' is most likely the WHC or the WWE title. So the person is clearly a former Champion (Jericho, The Rock, Sting, Taker) so that doesn't narrow things down much. What is key here is the later videos-- when the FNC claims that she can no longer 'help' whomever it is that is returning-- as if when the person was on hiatus he was getting help from this mystery girl.
The Rock doesn't seem to qualify. Neither would Sting-- he's not a 'familiar face' and he's not associated with a female figure. That leaves Taker (Michelle McCool, or 'SARA' as is tattooed on his neck) and Jericho (Stephanie McMahon). Or, the 'she' is metaphorical for the success of the Undisputed Champion/Undefeated Wrestlemania Streak. So... yeah still deadlocked between Y2J and Taker at this point.
The tie-breaker-- the final videos speak of 'Powers that Be'-- this is clearly favoring Taker at this point. Jericho never had any supernatural gimmicks, he was pretty much the most straightforward heel in WWE history. Jobbing to JTG will dispel any allusions of Supernatural forces. Whereas it took an army to make Taker job to somebody.
So final answer-- Undertaker. Thoughts? Criticisms??
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 1, 2012 0:09:30 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if it actually was Vince and Stephanie.
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Post by grunt on Jan 1, 2012 0:48:50 GMT -5
Just for the hell of it, Lesnar. Cos I don't really care anymore for a Y2J or Taker return.
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Post by saintpat on Jan 1, 2012 2:07:51 GMT -5
Someone has to say it: HBK.
Reclaiming what's rightfully his? How about the Mr. Wrestlemania title? While Undertaker hasn't actually usurped the title, he has, in effect, become Mr. WM in WWE over the last 3-4 years -- he's the one staple on the card who will always be in a main event type match as long as he's willing and able to do it.
So Shawn could want one more chance to end the streak so his legacy of being the one and true Mr. WM would be sealed forever.
Personally I think it's some combination of Vince, Stephanie and/or Shane coming back to reclaim the company that is rightfully theirs, but HBK would be a shock-the-world kind of thing.
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Post by gimpocommando on Jan 1, 2012 2:34:44 GMT -5
Okay, before the new year starts I'm gonna make my bold prediction on this whole thang right here, right now. First, a transcript of the official videos, followed by my analysis: (official link from WWE RAW broadcast) Child Narrator: Come my people and shut thy doors about thee. For a power shall come to punish the meek for their inequity. For on the second day of 2012 a familiar force shall arrive to claim what is his. And it will be the end of the world as you know it... www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLk96-SN5w(unofficial) Child Narrator: The power cometh is a thief in the night, to claim what others have taken. Those who are unjust, destruction shall come upon them, and they shall not escape. The second day of 2012 is coming, and it shall be the end of the world as you know it... www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4JRwE8ZkU(unofficial) CN: Behold, the power will come with vengeance to render his anger with fury. The deception the weak have perpetrated will be castigated. The second day of 2012 the prophet will emerge and destroy the weak. It will be the end of the world as you know it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvoZa0aKmP0(unofficial) CN: As he sat upon the mount, the question arose: When shall things be? And what shall be the sign of my coming? He answered: when She tells us. She holds the mystery of my arrival... of my rebirth. For when I beckon her, I will return to claim what is mine. And things will never be the same again. On the second day of 2012, it will be the end of the world as you know it! www.youtube.com/watch?v=BavdahP75Fw(unofficial) Female Child Narrator: I cannot help you anymore. Do you understand?? (believe me-- this is the girl talking, not the boy. Hours of debate have already gone into the boy/girl thing here at mi casa so TRUST ME) www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgyJsaXuOxg(unofficial) CN: The Force shall arrive... to reclaim what is his! Powers that Be, will be shaken. The Force shall arrive. FCN: Do you understand?? It makes perfect sense now. He's coming to take back Monday Night Raw.
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Post by Rican on Jan 1, 2012 2:44:28 GMT -5
Man, I know its not him, but I really want the WWE to have pulled off the biggest swerve ever and have it be Brock. I just imagine Punk in the ring celebrating after beating Ziggler, a final video playing, then Paul Heyman stands at the top of the ramp cutting a promo while Lesnar sneaks into the ring from behind and annihilates Punk.
Pure fantasy booking with no basis in reality but damnit I want it!
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Post by CH Punk on Jan 1, 2012 2:51:05 GMT -5
Prediction: The first three videos personify a face, clearly. It is a righteous person who is coming to punish the 'meek' and destroy the 'unjust'. So this gives clear Undertaker vibes, obviously. Punishing the meek/weak seems like the polar opposite of what a face should be doing, so, for me, they seemed to reference a heel from the start. And, following that, I thought that the they were referencing a warped sense of unjust. The 'power' and the 'Force' that is going to claim what 'others have taken' is most likely the WHC or the WWE title. So the person is clearly a former Champion (Jericho, The Rock, Sting, Taker) so that doesn't narrow things down much. What is key here is the later videos-- when the FCN claims that she can no longer 'help' whomever it is that is returning-- as if when the person was on hiatus he was getting help from this mystery girl. I took it to mean that the mystery "girl" was helping them return. The Rock doesn't seem to qualify. Neither would Sting-- he's not a 'familiar face' and he's not associated with a female figure. That leaves Taker (Michelle McCool, or 'SARA' as is tattooed on his neck) and Jericho (Stephanie McMahon). Or, the 'she' is metaphorical for the success of the Undisputed Champion/Undefeated Wrestlemania Streak. So... yeah still deadlocked between Y2J and Taker at this point. At first I thought the "she" would turn out to be a Manager/Valet for the Mystery Person (Stephanie, Michelle, someone new) but I could see "her" as one of the things mentioned above or the videos themselves. As a side note, Taker no longer has the "SARA" neck tattoo The tie-breaker-- the final videos speak of 'Powers that Be'-- this is clearly favoring Taker at this point. Jericho never had any supernatural gimmicks, he was pretty much the most straightforward heel in WWE history. Jobbing to JTG will dispel any allusions of Supernatural forces. Whereas it took an army to make Taker job to somebody. When I hear "Powers that Be", I think of WCW management so I took it to mean John Laurinaitis/Teddy Long or Triple H/Vince and not the supernatural. Also, they could always say that Jericho died and it's his ghost/soul thats after Punk/Bryan and have him be supernatural. All in all, this could go either way and as long as it isn't Brodus Clay (hyping a guy two different way would be really, really stupid) I'll be excited.
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Post by TheVoiceofReason on Jan 1, 2012 2:59:25 GMT -5
On the Supernatural Jericho suggestion, a week ago I had a daydream of him cutting a promo in the dark with there being a dimly-lit spotlight on him.
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Post by Cam on Jan 1, 2012 6:57:12 GMT -5
On the Supernatural Jericho suggestion, a week ago I had a daydream of him cutting a promo in the dark with there being a dimly-lit spotlight on him. Hmm, that sounds familiar....
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 1, 2012 7:20:49 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it's just another Undertaker return. But I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Cam on Jan 1, 2012 9:34:36 GMT -5
There's too many hints for it to not be Chris Jericho.
1. Do You Understand? - Part of one of Jericho's catchphrases before he left. 2. He Is Coming - Jericho's 2nd return was The Second Coming 3. The final promo interrupted a shot of CM Punk with the WWE Championship. Coincidence? Or hinting about what Jericho is going to do? (come back to claim what is rightfully his) 4. Notebook with Chris crossed out. 5. Year 2012 = Y, 2nd = 2, January = J 6. The clock hands shown in the final video make a Y shape. The big hand is pointing to a 2. The smaller hand is pointing to 11, or more specifically a 1. 11 - 1 = 10. J is the 10th letter of the alphabet. Y2J? 7. The notable focus on a globe. Jericho is the Best in the World (ties in with Punk) at what he does.
People can say these are coincidences but you know that that is the kind of stuff WWE puts in there to hint or make us speculate. Maybe a couple of them are coincidences but some of them are undeniable links.
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Post by Dirty Hazy on Jan 1, 2012 10:01:00 GMT -5
There's too many hints for it to not be Chris Jericho. 1. Do You Understand? - Part of one of Jericho's catchphrases before he left. 2. He Is Coming - Jericho's 2nd return was The Second Coming 3. The final promo interrupted a shot of CM Punk with the WWE Championship. Coincidence? Or hinting about what Jericho is going to do? (come back to claim what is rightfully his) 4. Notebook with Chris crossed out. 5. Year 2012 = Y, 2nd = 2, January = J 6. The clock hands shown in the final video make a Y shape. The big hand is pointing to a 2. The smaller hand is pointing to 11, or more specifically a 1. 11 - 1 = 10. J is the 10th letter of the alphabet. Y2J? 7. The notable focus on a globe. Jericho is the Best in the World (ties in with Punk) at what he does. People can say these are coincidences but you know that that is the kind of stuff WWE puts in there to hint or make us speculate. Maybe a couple of them are coincidences but some of them are undeniable links. God I am really thinking Taker now... Here is why... Well I will focus on one thing that I think we keep overlooking or not considering. CHRIS is CROSSED OUT... perhaps that is a clue to those of us guessing to say hey, we were mislead or entirely way off base here... it won't be Chris Jericho or any Chris at all. Funny how it showed up only after all this "Chris" Jericho speculation. Now, I for one have still YET to see this in a video, so a screen cap would be appreciated, thanks!
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Post by Dirty Hazy on Jan 1, 2012 10:10:05 GMT -5
I think we are supposed to play the videos backwards.... Has anyone done it and posted it on Youtube?
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