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Post by ohiofan1 on Jul 29, 2012 22:28:58 GMT -5
Loki from Thor- He realizes that he was a frost giant and was taken as a baby by Odin to maybe make peace. Always felt that Odin favored Thor over him in everything. Then, he big master plan was to prove to his father that he could and should be the next ruler of Asgard to "make him proud". Doc Ock from Spider-Man 2- We see an ordinary day in the life for Octo Octavius, with a happy life, lovely wife, and about to make a breakthrough in science. Then, the experience goes wrong and loses everything. He becomes paranoid and is determined to get more power to make it work. At the end, Peter has to remind him who he was and sacrifices his life to save New York. Grinch from the 2000 version- Just a kid that wanted to impress a girl for Christmas. He gets mocked by everyone and decides to hate Christmas. We also see that every Who except for Mary Lou is a giant, unlikeable snob that only cares about presents and decorations. Then, there is a chance for the Grinch to be accepted, but the Mayor just mocks him along with the town again. They deserved to have Christmas stolen  |
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 29, 2012 22:31:08 GMT -5
Ozymandias, if he counts as a villain.
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Post by H-Virus on Jul 29, 2012 22:32:51 GMT -5
Mr. Freeze and Harley Quinn.
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Post by Hakumental on Jul 29, 2012 22:57:18 GMT -5
Where video games are concerned, this is always going to start and end, for me, with Wiegraf Folles from Final Fantasy Tactics. I always thought he should have been the true antagonist in the game - unlike Vormav and the rest of that two-dimensional sect of devil worshippers, Wiegraf had positive ideals. He had hope. He opposed the nobility because he wanted a better future than the one waiting for him and his fellow veterans when they returned to Ivalice, and he didn't care if he would live to see it, so long as he could die knowing his efforts set it into motion. That takes complete character. It's a passion that also carries resounding social relevance today.
It's similarly hard for me not to feel for Illidan (Warcraft III), Ramsus (Xenogears), Largo (Tales of the Abyss), and Luc (Suikoden III). Wow, showing my age there.
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Post by Todd's crazy , Man. on Jul 29, 2012 23:03:16 GMT -5
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Post by lionheart21 on Jul 29, 2012 23:05:47 GMT -5
Mr. Freeze
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Post by Krimzon on Jul 29, 2012 23:20:06 GMT -5
Davy Jones from the Pirates franchise. Originally a great, respected sailor, he fell in love with the sea goddess herself, Calypso. She charged him with the task of carrying souls to the afterlife. This job made him only able to go on dry land once every 10 years, when they could physically be with each other. One fateful day, he showed up but she did not; her reason being "because f*** it. I'm Calypso, bitch." Davy Jones was so heartbroken by this, he actually carved out his own heart and buried it in a chest that also contained love poems and songs dedicated to Calypso. To quote the movie "The pain it caused him was too much to live with, but not enough to cause him to die, so he carved out him heart." Due to the job she charged him with doing, he was doomed to live with the pain she caused him for eternity. So naturally, he said "f*** it" and stopped ferrying the souls over and kept them for himself. This caused him to literally transform into a monster. He became the Scourge of the Seven Seas, with people fearing him more than Calypso. He also screwed the world by manipulating the Bretheren Court into trapping Calypso in human form where she went on to f*** Jack Sparrow. Nobody came out a winner in that scenario.
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Post by ICBM on Jul 30, 2012 2:20:05 GMT -5
Rebecca Demornay in the hand that rocks the cradle. I know they did not write it that way but she sure comes off like a badass B while the babyface lead comes off like.a punk B. Rebecca sits as an expectant mother when her husband is.accused by the babyface and others, of molestation. Ok he's a d***and earns it. He gets drug thru hell in the press and comits suicide. Demornay is blinded by all thee above, loses everything she has, them loses the baby all because she.was fooled by her old man. She.goes over the edge. Even during her secret machinations, she is likable up until she does the bit with.Solomon. Isabella Sciorra plays the week willed victim to a T on contrast to the strong 'I won't be a.victim" Demornay. Demornay's actions are almost justifiable until she goes too far. You can see her logic and almost want her to win for a good while. Then she steps over the line and dosnt look back. Demornay's character would have ended up in a wrestlemania main event. Bravo I say.
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Post by Dat Dude on Jul 30, 2012 2:47:12 GMT -5
Mr. Freeze and Harley Quinn. Agreed. I'd also add Magneto that list as well. If you think about it, if you grew up the way he did, would you have much a different outlook on humanity? |
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jul 30, 2012 3:27:35 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Jowy from Suikoden II. Fighting to the end just so that Highland and the City State can be at peace. Also Irenicus from Baldur's Gate II is an awesome example of a sympathetic villain that has a sympathetic backstory and yet never acts sorry for himself or makes excuses for what he does. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 3:31:58 GMT -5
Kakihara from Ichi the Killer. Once you see the ending and look back on why he was commiting such heinous actions to find his boss you truly understand that he was just as -if not more- worthy of sympathy than Ichi himself.
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Post by Talent Name on Jul 30, 2012 6:05:19 GMT -5
For me its Tyler Durden/Narrator primarily because of the symbolism behind what he does
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 6:32:13 GMT -5
He realizes that he was a bifrost He was a bridge between realms? |
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jul 30, 2012 8:23:23 GMT -5
As a spidey fan I find this bad as Dr Octopus in the comics has never ever been a sympathetic villain, he is supposed to be a scientist obsessed with proving his own genius and destroying Spider-Man. (Yes the portrayal in the film was fun, but he isn't supposed to be sympathetic.)
Mr Freeze has already been mentioned.
I'm going to go with Darth Vader (even without the prequels) he became very sympathetic as the trilogy neared the end.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jul 30, 2012 8:50:12 GMT -5
Big Boss from Metal Gear Solid.
He started off as a military prodigy, wholly determined to serve his country and fulfill his duty as a soldier. All he got for his reward was for his government to set it up so that he ended up killing his mentor with his own hand. Though he continues to fight for the United States, his loyalty is forever broken. He decides to seek out a different purpose, and eventually finds it by fighting for his own cause, owing loyalty to no country or government. And in doing so, he inspires legions of like-minded soldiers to follow his example and join him, commanding unbreakable respect and admiration among his followers. In doing so, he comes up with the dream of Outer Heaven, with the noble original purpose of creating a haven where soldiers never have to be exploited, betrayed, and sucked dry by politicians, and instead fulfill their own inherent purposes as soldiers. Unfortunately, this pushes him to the extreme of threatening global nuclear holocaust.
Along the way, he has two major personal demons: the grief he feels over killing The Boss, and the acrimonious split with his former friend and comrade Zero over how to interpret her will. Finally, in the end, these are addressed, and he finds peace before dying.
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Post by ohiofan1 on Jul 30, 2012 8:56:15 GMT -5
He realizes that he was a bifrost He was a bridge between realms? Sorry Frost Giant, hadn't seen the movie in a while and I knew they were called Frost something |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 30, 2012 9:14:48 GMT -5
Where video games are concerned, this is always going to start and end, for me, with Wiegraf Folles from Final Fantasy Tactics. I always thought he should have been the true antagonist in the game - unlike Vormav and the rest of that two-dimensional sect of devil worshippers, Wiegraf had positive ideals. He had hope. He opposed the nobility because he wanted a better future than the one waiting for him and his fellow veterans when they returned to Ivalice, and he didn't care if he would live to see it, so long as he could die knowing his efforts set it into motion. That takes complete character. It's a passion that also carries resounding social relevance today. It's similarly hard for me not to feel for Illidan ( Warcraft III), Ramsus ( Xenogears), Largo ( Tales of the Abyss), and Luc ( Suikoden III). Wow, showing my age there. you have to remember, though, with Wiegraf that by the time you fight him in that nigh-impossible boss fight he's pretty much completely given up on his ideals and become little more than a murderous thug. it's one of the sadder parts of the game actually, to see a guy get so thoroughly broken. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 30, 2012 9:19:50 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Jowy from Suikoden II. Fighting to the end just so that Highland and the City State can be at peace. Also Irenicus from Baldur's Gate II is an awesome example of a sympathetic villain that has a sympathetic backstory and yet never acts sorry for himself or makes excuses for what he does. honestly, I know it goes against the grain, but {Spoiler}I always thought Jowy was an idiot. after Luca was dead, if he REALLY wanted to end the war so bad he would've just ended it. he was the king. he was losing. he could surrender. instead, he continues a stupid war and gets more people killed, all the while whining about how he just wants peace. plus every time you see him you have the upper hand and he goes "oh you should quit" and gives no logical reason why.even if the hero just ran away, the City States hated Highland (for good reason) so much at that point that someone else would have led them and Shu would have still won them the war. (for all intents and purposes your character is little more than a figurehead). he's losing a war that he perpetuates for no reason and has the gall to beg for surrender when all hope for his side is utterly lost. he's like the black knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. |
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Post by Totorob101 on Jul 30, 2012 9:36:10 GMT -5
Probably not a great sympathetic villain but in the Green Lantern movie,i felt pretty bad for Hector Hammond,his so called friends pretty much abandoned him,and never seemed to give a damn about him.
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Post by agent817 on Jul 30, 2012 11:40:24 GMT -5
I would say Mr. Freeze, but the Batman Animated Series version because you can't help but sympathize with him. A guy who has suffered a fate that he has to stay cold in order to live as well as the fact that he wants to find a cure for his ailing wife. I cannot help but feel bad about the guy.
Also, Two-Face is another sympathetic villain. A guy who has a split personality and was a very good DA until he got disfigured. I will say this, I felt bad for him in some episodes of TAS, as well as when I read The Long Halloween.
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