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Post by eldandyjamupguy on Dec 6, 2012 12:35:53 GMT -5
This story + the photo + his love for Bill DeMott = What the f***, Ryder? I know he gets the label of being a hard worker, but he would rather have had a naked man's sweaty ass in his face repeatedly than practice what he "loves"
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 6, 2012 13:19:50 GMT -5
It's messed up that this happened every single week on Raw back in 2000. Or does a tiny strip of leather make it all okay? The Stinkface getting over is the most embarrassing thing ever in wrestling. "Well, let me tell you something, folks. If I were to ever see my son Colt on a Pay-Per-View for his first big main event and at the end of the match they had a 320 pound Samoan in a thong sit on his face in front of millions of people, I would know he was being manipulated. If I were to see this on TV while I was back home in Portland and the event was taking place in New York, I would be at the promoter's door before he even got home from the matches. I never stood for that kind of s*** in my career, and I would never let my kid be taken advantage of either."- the "Roddy Gets Rowdy" chapter of In The Pit With Piper by "Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 6, 2012 13:36:10 GMT -5
wow and i thought this matthews guy was being a bitter prick throughout this, but damn. wtf demott?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 6, 2012 13:51:30 GMT -5
This story + the photo + his love for Bill DeMott = What the f***, Ryder? I know he gets the label of being a hard worker, but he would rather have had a naked man's sweaty ass in his face repeatedly than practice what he "loves" Just like others have said, weak minded people will rationalize anything when it comes to advancing their careers, and will put themselves through all kinds of humiliaton I'm thinking Ryder DOES love wrestling, but had little faith in his skill. Maybe he realized he wasn't that good a long time ago, but was willing to humiliate himself just to keep doing what he loves. Look at how the guy presents himself now. Ryder probably volunteered in the hopes that DeMott would put a good word in for him. The jelly donut thing is questionable, but maybe that's the secret to Ryder's longevity. Maybe DeMott vouched for the kid thinking that he's up for anything and if he's able to take ass and jelly donuts to the face, he's not going to walk out because X angle offends him, a la Kurt Angle and the Raven/Sandman crucifixion or Kristal with the Lita/Cryme Tyme Ho Sale. I haven't lost respect for the guy, but I have gained a lot of sympathy. Considering that the wrestling industry is probably one of the few professions where you have to be one of the elite just to make a decent living, Ryder felt that he did what he had to do and anyone else in the class might've done the same thing.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 6, 2012 14:02:30 GMT -5
Wait, so probably this isn't hazing as much as it is guys doing disgusting things to try to skip practice?
Man, screw them. If you can't be assed to practice in a business you're trying to get into, and would rather do disgusting things to try to avoid training, you don't get sympathy for me.
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 6, 2012 14:38:31 GMT -5
Wait, so probably this isn't hazing as much as it is guys doing disgusting things to try to skip practice? Man, screw them. If you can't be assed to practice in a business you're trying to get into, and would rather do disgusting things to try to avoid training, you don't get sympathy for me. You try taking bumps for 7 hours consecutively
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 6, 2012 15:06:05 GMT -5
This story + the photo + his love for Bill DeMott = What the f***, Ryder? I know he gets the label of being a hard worker, but he would rather have had a naked man's sweaty ass in his face repeatedly than practice what he "loves" Maybe he's one of the few people that use the phrase "I'll try anything once" and actually means it? He can wrestle any day but how often in life does the opportunity to get sweaty naked man ass and doughnuts rubbed in your face come along? Probably no more than twice every five years. He had to take the opportunity while he had the chance.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 6, 2012 15:16:30 GMT -5
It is weird as the two guys in the picture are two of the guys who vouched the most for Bill, Zack Ryder and Luke Gallows. They said he was tough, but they always had good things to say about Bill Demott. Gallows especially, he could say that Bill sucks, he's forever out of the system if he goes back to WWE. The story like this though gives credence to the other things Kevin Matthews said, and I even tweeted this to him and he re-tweeted it. A picture like this, which looks so extreme, makes all the other stuff look like nothing. So yeah, I think Bill, while some guys do like him and he can be ok with some people, obviously has issues with the way he trains and unless he was brought in on the idea that he shaped up and that he's not like this anymore, things could be better. Not only that, but while he's the "head trainer", Ricky Steamboat, Terry Taylor and Norman Smiley are all his seniors. The only people in the wrestling less then Bill are Joey Mercury and Sara Del Rey, and my guess is they'll likely be doing more bumps then the other veterans.
So, Bill may likely be on a leash, but I guess it all depends how guys feel about being down there. I still don't know why they got rid of Dr. Tom though.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 6, 2012 16:12:00 GMT -5
Wait, so probably this isn't hazing as much as it is guys doing disgusting things to try to skip practice? Man, screw them. If you can't be assed to practice in a business you're trying to get into, and would rather do disgusting things to try to avoid training, you don't get sympathy for me. You try taking bumps for 7 hours consecutively I'm not the one who chose to try to be a professional wrestler.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 6, 2012 16:26:07 GMT -5
I think I'd rather take the bumps than have some man's bare ass rub jelly donuts in my face.
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 6, 2012 16:51:46 GMT -5
Back to the main point. Bill is gay, right?
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Post by PTBartman on Dec 6, 2012 17:12:02 GMT -5
I think I'd rather take the bumps than have some man's bare ass rub jelly donuts in my face.
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Post by Lardlad on Dec 6, 2012 17:30:33 GMT -5
Back to the main point. Bill is gay, right?
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Post by YiHammer on Dec 6, 2012 17:39:20 GMT -5
You try taking bumps for 7 hours consecutively I'm not the one who chose to try to be a professional wrestler. God forbid they try and get a day off
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Post by johnnytightlips on Dec 6, 2012 17:47:54 GMT -5
My memory is vague but the story I heard from Luke Gallow's shoot interview was that during a contest, might had been Tough Enough, his pants or tights slowly started to come off while crawling in mud during an obstacle course and Bill told him that he would get disqualified if he pulled his clothes back on.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 6, 2012 17:54:41 GMT -5
I'm not the one who chose to try to be a professional wrestler. God forbid they try and get a day off If you watched the video, you can tell it's not just them wanting one day off. It was a regular deal because most of the guys there didn't want to train at all. They would bribe Bill with various things so they wouldn't have to work. And even if it was just a day off thing, I think there are better ways to go about getting one.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 6, 2012 18:18:12 GMT -5
Didn't Tori Wilson shove a dog's ass in someone's face? Dog butt and people butt are not the same thing!Ladies and gentlemen, the Freakin' Awesome Network 2012 Vin Gerard Memorial Award for Post Of The Year goes to Hawkeye Jefferson Face. Congratulations, sir.
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Post by theryno665 on Dec 6, 2012 18:25:04 GMT -5
Is it sad that I want donuts now?
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Post by Perd on Dec 6, 2012 18:25:09 GMT -5
Guys, we're missing the point here. They wasted perfectly good jelly doughnuts. This never would have happened if Tommy Dreamer had been the trainer
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 6, 2012 18:33:49 GMT -5
Wait, so probably this isn't hazing as much as it is guys doing disgusting things to try to skip practice? Man, screw them. If you can't be assed to practice in a business you're trying to get into, and would rather do disgusting things to try to avoid training, you don't get sympathy for me. Well, it seems they were assed, judging by the picture.
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