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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 15, 2012 17:21:08 GMT -5
FWIW, he WAS in space for a minute when he put Boss Rabbit on the moon, so I never doubted him there. That was before science came to play. Speaking of Boss Rabbit though, I guess Master Roshi Jackie Chun killed him during Chun's fight with Goku. Only Toriyama knows. God, there's so much daylight between pre-Red Ribbon DragonBall and the rest of the series that it's unbelievable.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 15, 2012 20:24:40 GMT -5
Wait a second...
They still make this f***ing show? Do tectonic plates still move in the time it takes for the plot to develop?
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 15, 2012 20:43:48 GMT -5
Wait a second... They still make this f***ing show? Do tectonic plates still move in the time it takes for the plot to develop? No, the main manga and anime is long since over.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Dec 15, 2012 20:59:25 GMT -5
Wait a second... They still make this f***ing show? Do tectonic plates still move in the time it takes for the plot to develop? Show's been over since like '96 or something. This is just a new movie. Will likely exist on the same non-canon space as the rest of the movies. Either way, it looks awesome.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 15, 2012 21:02:12 GMT -5
Is anybody surprised at this point that they'd have him be able to survive in space? Goku has become the ultimate deus ex machina. FWIW, he WAS in space for a minute when he put Boss Rabbit on the moon, so I never doubted him there. I think it was explained, though I'm not sure, that Saiyans can breathe in space for a only a little bit while Frieza and his family can hang out for days in space and not once feel any sort of problems.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 15, 2012 21:05:04 GMT -5
Also, did they forget about Gohan's Ultimate form?
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Dec 15, 2012 22:16:03 GMT -5
I'm not even questioning anything. Gimme this movie now.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 15, 2012 22:19:12 GMT -5
I love that Goku loses the first fight with the main villain.
When's the last time in the series or in the movies where Goku has flat out lost a fight?
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 15, 2012 22:27:56 GMT -5
I love that Goku loses the first fight with the main villain. When's the last time in the series or in the movies where Goku has flat out lost a fight? Um....er.....Broly?
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 15, 2012 22:34:52 GMT -5
I love that Goku loses the first fight with the main villain. When's the last time in the series or in the movies where Goku has flat out lost a fight? Um....er.....Broly? In the Fusion movie, he was getting his ass handed to him by Janemba, even in Super Saiyan 3 mode I believe. It was only when him and Vegeta successfully fused into Gogeta that they defeated him. That movie was all sorts of f***ed up. Both Goku and Vegeta were dead at the same time, Goten and Trunks fight off zombie Nazis, and so forth.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 22:35:53 GMT -5
I love that Goku loses the first fight with the main villain. When's the last time in the series or in the movies where Goku has flat out lost a fight? Fusion Reborn is notable for this. Goku GETS SLAUGHTERED even as a SSJ3...in the afterlife where there is no stress on his body or worrieing about losing energy at a rapid rate , Janemba has him killed if not for a certain Vegetable.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Dec 15, 2012 22:36:12 GMT -5
I love that Goku loses the first fight with the main villain. When's the last time in the series or in the movies where Goku has flat out lost a fight? Technically, Goku lost his first fight with Vegeta. It was Gohan who was finally able to keep him down. Not a lot of people see it that way. Also, Perfect Cell was the first and only villain to actually kill Goku. I know Piccolo killed him and Raditz with the Special Beam Cannon, but they were unlikely allies at that point.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 15, 2012 22:43:08 GMT -5
Probably the best scene in the entire series of Dragonball Z, other than Goku going Super Saiyajin. At least IMHO.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 15, 2012 22:45:43 GMT -5
Ah but Goku used techniques that he knew in both the Janemba and Broly fights? Sure he fused with Vegeta to win but it was Goku who knew the technique. For Broly, sure he used other people's energy but again, it was a technique that he knew that beat him.
It's just interesting to see a villain beat Goku so convincingly that he's taunting him with the "Is there no one on earth worthy to destroy?" line. So not only is he getting whooped, his opponent is telling him that he's not worth the time while he's doing it. That's awesome.
I wonder since it's obvious they're dealing with a god if that means that Gohan, who had his powers unlocked by a Kai, will be the one to beat him. Probably just wishful thinking from me but still.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 22:54:14 GMT -5
It looks like Gohans mystic abilities were only temporary or they were taken away as in the trailer he turns SSJ....either way there is going to be alot of pissed off Gohan fanboys if Mystic Gohan was just temporary.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 15, 2012 22:56:26 GMT -5
It looks like Gohans mystic abilities were only temporary or they were taken away as in the trailer he turns SSJ....either way there is going to be alot of pissed off Gohan fanboys if Mystic Gohan was just temporary. I won't be mad. I'd just be baffled and think ".....So what was the point?" I'm thinking they were just going for the more "Iconic" Super Saiyajin look but we'll see.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 15, 2012 22:57:20 GMT -5
I preferred Gohan in his SSJ2 form anyways. The "Mystic Gohan" thing really bugged me, because it was like, "So, he's stronger than a Super Saiyajin 2, but doesn't transform with the gold hair? WEAK!!!"
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 15, 2012 22:59:58 GMT -5
I actually liked it because it was one less SSJ in a show that was filled to the brim with SSJs by that point.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 23:05:01 GMT -5
Mystic Gohan was stated to be the strongest non fused character in all of Z , I guess it was akiras way of giving Gohan fans back what he took away when Goku was brought back due to fan demand.
But what good that did as Gohan even being stronger than everyone else (non fused) still got his ass royally handed to him by Buutenks.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 15, 2012 23:06:56 GMT -5
Mystic Gohan was stated to be the strongest non fused character in all of Z , I guess it was akiras way of giving Gohan fans back what he took away when Goku was brought back due to fan demand. But what good that did as Gohan even being stronger than everyone else (non fused) still got his ass royally handed to him by Buutenks. Not to mention that he apparently can't catch an earring in that form. He can catch bullets in SSJ1, but not an earring at his most powerful form. I remember laughing like a maniac when I first saw that. It was so ridiculous.
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