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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 16, 2012 20:58:03 GMT -5
DC's Batman games are great, but Marvel's done a better job with their wider universe gamers. X-men, Spider-Man and the Avengers have all had great games, both Marvel Ultimate Alliance games were a blast (hell MUA 2 did a better job with the Civil War story than the comic it was based on). DC on the other hand has given us fantastic Batman games, 1 good Superman game on the SNES and a whole lot of garbage. I'm surprised we still haven't gotten a good Justice League game. LEGO Batman 2 says hi. Also, since MAU2 there hasn't really been that notable of a Marvel game. The recent X-Men game sucked major, major ass. The last....several Spider-Man games have either sucked or been decent at best. Goes on and on. Marvel has had a lot of good games in the past, no doubt about it, but the recent Marvel games have done a lot to hurt the overall quality of their history of games. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 16, 2012 21:03:08 GMT -5
DC's Batman games are great, but Marvel's done a better job with their wider universe gamers. X-men, Spider-Man and the Avengers have all had great games, both Marvel Ultimate Alliance games were a blast (hell MUA 2 did a better job with the Civil War story than the comic it was based on). DC on the other hand has given us fantastic Batman games, 1 good Superman game on the SNES and a whole lot of garbage. I'm surprised we still haven't gotten a good Justice League game. LEGO Batman 2 says hi. Also, since MAU2 there hasn't really been that notable of a Marvel game. The recent X-Men game sucked major, major ass. The last....several Spider-Man games have either sucked or been decent at best. Goes on and on. Marvel has had a lot of good games in the past, no doubt about it, but the recent Marvel games have done a lot to hurt the overall quality of their history of games. Lego Batman 2 is still a Batman game. yes I know it has Superman in it. it's still largely a Batman game. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 16, 2012 21:13:46 GMT -5
LEGO Batman 2 says hi. Also, since MAU2 there hasn't really been that notable of a Marvel game. The recent X-Men game sucked major, major ass. The last....several Spider-Man games have either sucked or been decent at best. Goes on and on. Marvel has had a lot of good games in the past, no doubt about it, but the recent Marvel games have done a lot to hurt the overall quality of their history of games. Lego Batman 2 is still a Batman game. yes I know it has Superman in it. it's still largely a Batman game. And Wonder Woman, and Flash, and Green Lantern.......... |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 16, 2012 22:09:36 GMT -5
Lego Batman 2 is still a Batman game. yes I know it has Superman in it. it's still largely a Batman game. And Wonder Woman, and Flash, and Green Lantern.......... It technically is a Justice League game, but Batman is DC's top draw by a good margin so he carries the title. |
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Dec 17, 2012 3:32:05 GMT -5
In my opinion Marvel is better at marketing while DC is better at big picture, long term plotlines.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 17, 2012 10:08:43 GMT -5
Marvel is better at marketing their comics, but I think their marketing style is only really better in terms of getting new readers. every single event they advertise uses the exact same "EVERYTHING WILL CHANGE!!" hyperbole and it gets really eye-rolling for a long-time reader. and constantly cancelling books, changing the writer/artist and starting from a new #1 IMO only serves as an excuse for me to drop a book sooner than I would if they'd just keep going. it also doesn't help when every other month every single stand-alone title gets derailed by whatever silly crossover Marvel's doing this month that will "change everything" even though it doesn't. the constant shifts in team books' lineups does little to inspire long term loyalty too. I guess what I'm saying is that Marvel's better at bringing in new readers for short term gains but DC (at least until the new 52 reboot) is more concerned with keeping the fans they have over the longer term, and better at getting new readers without flipping off the long-time ones (New 52 aside, and even I'll admit I'm reading 5 DC books now when I was only reading 2 pre-reboot).
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Dec 17, 2012 13:00:04 GMT -5
I can't disagree with that. Well put.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2012 17:19:23 GMT -5
Marvel created the bulk of their characters in the 60's, when social upheaval was just beginning. Stan Lee and others tapped right into that and created people - not just masks, but PEOPLE - who were different from the kind of superheroes that existed already.
Meanwhile, DC created the very concept of superheroes. The classic heroes like Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman were things that had never been seen, much less thought of, before. And long before it became the norm, the DC of the '60s reinvented many older characters in a new era for a new audience (and not as a reaction to Marvel either, which is an often mistaken fact).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2012 17:31:06 GMT -5
DC = OP, easily conflicted heroes, sneaky villains
Marvel = OP, easily conflicted villains, sneaky heroes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2012 23:01:14 GMT -5
Meanwhile, DC created the very concept of superheroes. The classic heroes like Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman were things that had never been seen, much less thought of, before. TBH, pulp magazines came out with prototypes of many of DC's concepts. Characters like the Spider and Doc Savage were very much in the vein of characters like Batman and Superman. |
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Post by The OP on Dec 17, 2012 23:13:15 GMT -5
I tried to figure out if I liked one company better than the other by going through my books and kinda keeping score, and it's pretty even. I love Marvel, but I think some people are a little too willing to buy their hype about them having coming out and being this radical departure from what had come before. I mean, some characters seem directly lifted from earlier stories, i.e. Ant Man is pretty much the Atom.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 17, 2012 23:19:16 GMT -5
I tried to figure out if I liked one company better than the other by going through my books and kinda keeping score, and it's pretty even. I love Marvel, but I think some people are a little too willing to buy their hype about them having coming out and being this radical departure from what had come before. I mean, some characters seem directly lifted from earlier stories, i.e. Ant Man is pretty much the Atom. Yeah in terms of amount from the two companies I'm even too. Thus why I prefer to go by my favorite heroes not company. And that is MUCH easier to tell, because the majority of my comics are Batman, Spider-Man, and Green Lantern related, in that order, too. |
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 17, 2012 23:39:56 GMT -5
Many of my favorite stories tend to be DC stories, but the bulk of my favorite characters tend to be Marvel.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Dec 18, 2012 11:49:25 GMT -5
I tried to figure out if I liked one company better than the other by going through my books and kinda keeping score, and it's pretty even. I love Marvel, but I think some people are a little too willing to buy their hype about them having coming out and being this radical departure from what had come before. I mean, some characters seem directly lifted from earlier stories, i.e. Ant Man is pretty much the Atom. For another example, the Fantastic Four are basically just the Challengers of the Unknown with superpowers. Marvel has done well in keeping their image with a lot of people as being trendy, hip, and the like. Hence why I think they are better at marketing than DC, who I think turn out just as good (if not better) a product at the end of the day, but they still have a reputation for basically being squares. |
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Dec 18, 2012 12:02:17 GMT -5
Here is one: DC would rather get issues out on time while Marvel would rather have consistent art.
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Post by kolani on Dec 18, 2012 20:00:20 GMT -5
Here is one: DC would rather get issues out on time while Marvel would rather have consistent art. On time > consistent art, ALWAYS. It's jarring when you pick up a random X-Book a month or so after Avengers vs X-Men has concluded, and they're still storytelling with the pre-AvX status quo in place, acting like the huge crossover never happened. |
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Post by H-Virus on Dec 18, 2012 20:50:17 GMT -5
Speaking of AvX, Marvel superheroes tend to have a lot more in-fighting than DC superheroes do.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 18, 2012 20:57:30 GMT -5
Speaking of AvX, Marvel superheroes tend to have a lot more in-fighting than DC superheroes do. But to be fair, DC's most recent big event had Aquaman and Wonder Woman as the villains. Alternate universe versions true, but still. |
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 19, 2012 0:21:12 GMT -5
There was a time when Marvel felt more like a single universe. By that I mean, it didn't feel unusual to find out something from one comic to pop up in another, like mentions of Adamantium or SHIELD agents. Seeing another character appear in the background was cool but somehow didn't seem like it was forced.
DC books had a different feel to them... the Superman comics felt like "the world plus Metropolis", the Batman comics were "the world plus Gotham", and there didn't really feel like a complete world unless the writers went out of their way to force a connection.
(Not so much now, but it still feels a bit forced when DC does it. For me, that is.)
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 19, 2012 11:47:03 GMT -5
/\ I always felt the opposite to be honest. post-Crisis the DCU really felt congruous while Marvel's U steadily grew more into a "wait how is this story even possible in a universe where this guy/concept exists? why the hell do people hate mutants so much but don't even bat an eye at all the other superheroes? if the greek gods exist then what the hell are the Eternals supposed to be?" and so on. the fact that a lot of their current writers *coughBendiscough* don't even bother familiarizing themselves with what the other writers are doing just exacerbates the problem.
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