Who else wants Venom for ASM 2?

[Sephiroth]

Venom was always my favorite Spider-Man villain as a kid, and when I heard he was going to be in Spider Man 3 I can't say how stoked I was. So sufficed to say, I walked out of the theater a rather unsatisfied customer when I saw it; Topher Grace, seriously??? I so badly want to see Venom done right on the big screen and to see him and web-head have an epic brawl all across the cinematic world. So now that the Spider Man franchise has been rebooted, I seriously hope they willl throw Venom into the mix for the next movie, or even a third one-should it ever happen. But again, he has to be done right: he has to be the villain who knows Spidey's identity and uses it to terrorize his friends and family. who has a twisted sense of ethics and thinks he is actually doing the world a heap of good by getting rid of the wall crawler, and the one villain who Spidey is truly afraid of no matter how much he won't admit it.

[Deleted]

TOO BAD!

Black Electro for you~!

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

I hope it just becomes a running joke now, and they continue to have Venom as the franchises Nordberg in small cameos

[Welfare Willis]

Nope, after Sam Raimi tried to cram Venom into an already crowded story because of an eager studio and fan demand I only want Venom if the scriptwriter/director has a good story that's organic to the character.

[agent817]

Dec 15, 2012 9:04:28 GMT -5 Welfare Willis said:

Nope, after Sam Raimi tried to cram Venom into an already crowded story because of an eager studio and fan demand I only want Venom if the scriptwriter/director has a good story that's organic to the character.

I wouldn't doubt that Sam Raimi was reluctant. No, that's not the word. He was very opposed to implementing him into the movie. I have read that he doesn't like Venom and wanted to focus on Sandman in the Spider-Man 3.

I still have not watched it in its entirety.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

eh, Venom's kinda lame, at least the Eddie Brock version. he always came off to me as a whiny guy whose only real thrust was that he looked cool. he may have been the first Venom but the character never really got off the ground for me until Mac Gargan became Venom and started eating people. then Flash Thompson became Venom and he's far and away my favorite. Flash-as-Venom is the first time I ever felt the character was really viable. one of the best moments of Rick Remender's run on Venom was when he killed off Eddie, if only to get people to stop bitching about how someone else was Venom now.

[rapidfire187]

I want Carnage. Why on earth has he been ignored by the films?

[Kevin Hamilton]

Not me. Maybe down the line.

I never want Carnage though.

[rapidfire187]

Dec 15, 2012 12:22:33 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Not me. Maybe down the line.

I never want Carnage though.

Why?

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

Dec 15, 2012 11:55:04 GMT -5 rapidfire187 said:

I want Carnage. Why on earth has he been ignored by the films?

because he's a one-note villain with as much depth as a drinking cup?

[Hurbster]

The films would have to be R18 to feature Carnage done properly.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Dec 15, 2012 12:31:47 GMT -5 rapidfire187 said:

Dec 15, 2012 12:22:33 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Not me. Maybe down the line.

I never want Carnage though.

Why?

Just not a fan personally.

To me, only reason he ever came around is cuz they sorta 'hero-fied' Venom for a bit ( which was also dumb), and wanted it both ways.

I feel that way about any symbiote post Venom though. Just a personal preference thing; I know he's got fans. I'm just not one of 'em.

[rapidfire187]

Dec 15, 2012 12:34:14 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

Dec 15, 2012 11:55:04 GMT -5 rapidfire187 said:

I want Carnage. Why on earth has he been ignored by the films?

because he's a one-note villain with as much depth as a drinking cup?

Why does the villain have to be deep or a good guy turned bad? Carnage was a pure evil psychopath. He murdered his grandmother as a child. He's so over the top and violent that I think he'd be perfect for a film.

Then again, it may just be that I got into Spiderman because of the Maximum Carnage game back in the day. Either way, I would mark the f*** out for Carnage, even if he's not the main villain.

[agent817]

Regarding Carnage, how did they tame his backstory for the 1990s cartoon?

[Fundertaker]

IIRC, there was almost nothing as far as backstory goes. Cletus was arrested for planning a bombing in NYC, became cell mates with Eddie, the Venom symbiote returned to Eddie and then Baron Mordo came to Cletus and gave him the Carnage symbiote.

[Seth Drakin of Monster Crap]

Dec 15, 2012 9:08:40 GMT -5 agent817 said:

Dec 15, 2012 9:04:28 GMT -5 Welfare Willis said:

Nope, after Sam Raimi tried to cram Venom into an already crowded story because of an eager studio and fan demand I only want Venom if the scriptwriter/director has a good story that's organic to the character.

I wouldn't doubt that Sam Raimi was reluctant. No, that's not the word. He was very opposed to implementing him into the movie. I have read that he doesn't like Venom and wanted to focus on Sandman in the Spider-Man 3.

I still have not watched it in its entirety.

Yeah, Sam hated the idea of Venom, but was willing to compromise and was willing to set Venom up for the next movie (that church scene was supposed to be the end of the film originally), but the studio said no and wanted them to put Venom in Spiderman 3.

[BlackoutCreature]

Forget Venom or Carnage. What the next Spider-Man movie needs is a team up of the three most beloved and iconic villains in Spider-Man history -

Judas Traveller


Videoman


And Professor Monster!!!

[A Platypus Rave]

Dec 15, 2012 14:39:15 GMT -5 Seth Drakin of Monster Crap said:

Dec 15, 2012 9:08:40 GMT -5 agent817 said:

I wouldn't doubt that Sam Raimi was reluctant. No, that's not the word. He was very opposed to implementing him into the movie. I have read that he doesn't like Venom and wanted to focus on Sandman in the Spider-Man 3.

I still have not watched it in its entirety.

Yeah, Sam hated the idea of Venom, but was willing to compromise and was willing to set Venom up for the next movie (that church scene was supposed to be the end of the film originally), but the studio said no and wanted them to put Venom in Spiderman 3.

Which would be the way to do it... IMO have one movie to setup the symbiote and end with the creation of venom then have him as the villain in the following.

[Yami Daimao]

Dec 15, 2012 13:22:02 GMT -5 rapidfire187 said:

Dec 15, 2012 12:34:14 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

because he's a one-note villain with as much depth as a drinking cup?

Why does the villain have to be deep or a good guy turned bad? Carnage was a pure evil psychopath. He murdered his grandmother as a child. He's so over the top and violent that I think he'd be perfect for a film.

Then again, it may just be that I got into Spiderman because of the Maximum Carnage game back in the day. Either way, I would mark the f*** out for Carnage, even if he's not the main villain.

I'm with you on this one. I'm a fan of Carnage. He doesn't need some deep, emotionally story to make him a great villain. That's what Eddie Brock/Venom is for. Cletus Cassidy/Carnage is a murderous psychopath who bonds with the symbiote's offspring. That's all you really need for a fun movie.

"Guess I can say you AXED for this!"

[The Legend of Groose]

I would like to see Venom get a full on story for one of the AMS movies. I was one of the PISSED off people that Venom was only in the last 20 mins or so. Venom deserves better. Carnage would be cool too but I could live with out him.