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Post by Stu on Dec 16, 2012 20:28:14 GMT -5
Okay, here's the deal. According to Kevin Nash, Sting was considered for the role that was ultimately filled by Hulk Hogan at Bash at the Beah '96. Here's the video:
Had Sting run with the proposal,we could have seen an entirely different scenario play out. Would things have worked? Personally, I think not. Here are my reasons:
1: It was Hulk Freakin Hogan. The idea of him going heel was going to bea big deal. As popular as Sting was, he was not as big a deal as Hogan.
2: Hogan came from the WWF, which fit with the original concept of the NWO being made up off former WWF guys.
3: Hogan had a reason to turn against the fans. He had been boo'd in the months leading up to BatB. Sting had no reason to turn heel.
What are your thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 21:40:16 GMT -5
You speak words of truth. The thought of a Hulk Hogan heel turn was bewildering. He had international acclaim and fame. Sting.....not so much.
Plus WCW needed a top guy. Sting made more sense in that role than Hogan.
That said, I do like how Sting instead became more of an outsider, driven away into the shadows and rafters by the paranoia the nWo had created. THAT helped build the nWo's power up more, I think. So when he'd finally come to WCW's aid, revealing his "WCW heart" and tentpole status, and smack the nWo around, he was a much bigger deal.
And it was a better move for his character - Surfer Sting was an early/happy/neon-colored 90's thing........but with the nWo and the Attitude Era transforming the business, another Sting was needed instead.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 16, 2012 21:52:47 GMT -5
Bischoff confirmed it too. Sting wasn't overly thrilled with the idea but agreed to do it if Hogan wouldn't.
Those involved in WCW at the time said the Sting proposal was supposed to be him being bitter about constantly being thrown to the side for Ted Turner's new flavor of the month. So he brought in the Outsiders to help him show WCW how dominant and dangerous he could actually be
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 17, 2012 0:07:05 GMT -5
Bischoff confirmed it too. Sting wasn't overly thrilled with the idea but agreed to do it if Hogan wouldn't. and then Bischoff proceeded to not speak to Sting for over 15 years
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Post by johnnytightlips on Dec 17, 2012 2:47:34 GMT -5
Didn't Terry decide to turn heel right when he got to the building during the ppv as I might of heard that they tried calling Hulk Hogan for his answer but couldn't reach him since was on a plane to the ppv and that Sting would have the substitute if Hulk would of said no.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 17, 2012 9:00:21 GMT -5
He could, but the group would have had nowhere near the success that it did with hogan at the helm, not because Sting isn't charismatic or popular, but because Hogan is just so much better at the backstage games. Hogan steamrollered the Horsemen, the Dungeon of Doom and so on, the odds are good that a Sting led NWO would have been another group he ploughed through while the boos grow ever louder.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 17, 2012 9:38:39 GMT -5
Bischoff confirmed it too. Sting wasn't overly thrilled with the idea but agreed to do it if Hogan wouldn't. Those involved in WCW at the time said the Sting proposal was supposed to be him being bitter about constantly being thrown to the side for Ted Turner's new flavor of the month. So he brought in the Outsiders to help him show WCW how dominant and dangerous he could actually be Maybe it's just me, but I like this idea better then what we got. It just makes more sense then Hogan's "we're taking over" when he was already pretty much in charge. Of course, yeah, without Hogan's political power and the shock of his heel turn, the nWo would never have become as long lasting or as successful as it did.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 17, 2012 9:49:06 GMT -5
I think the real question is could Sting have led the LWO. Just imagine that storyline!
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 17, 2012 12:04:50 GMT -5
I think the real question is could Sting have led the LWO. Just imagine that storyline! Sting- I once shook a hand of a Latino man, therefore I must be Latino. Viva La Mazda or something like that.
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Post by TGM on Dec 17, 2012 12:15:43 GMT -5
I think the real question is could Sting have led the LWO. Just imagine that storyline! Sting- I once shook a hand of a Latino man, therefore I must be Latino. Viva La Mazda or something like that. Woo esse!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2012 17:34:01 GMT -5
I think the real question is could Sting have led the LWO. Just imagine that storyline! Sting tries talking to everyone but they can't understand him. Rey and Eddie stand in a corner facepalming and praying a WWF contract becomes available.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 17, 2012 17:58:43 GMT -5
I think according to Bischoff's book, he had pitched the heel turn to Hogan before, Hogan wasn't sure. When the Outsiders angle got hot, Hogan became more receptive and said he was willing to turn heel to be in the angle- but they weren't 100% sure he was really going to do it until BATB.
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Post by flatsdomino on Dec 19, 2012 1:58:00 GMT -5
I think the real question is could Sting have led the LWO. Just imagine that storyline! Sting- I once shook a hand of a Latino man, therefore I must be Latino. Viva La Mazda or something like that. WCW actually also planned for Sting to be the leader of the LWO, hence why he ranted in Spanish to the camera at the very end of Starrcade '97. The seeds were being sewn. No really, he actually does that. Go watch it, it's great.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 19, 2012 11:38:25 GMT -5
Sting leading the NWO would've been horrible. Because it would mean that Hogan would've been a babyface against them. And the way they booked Hogan in 94-96, he probably would've tore through them like they were the 3 Faces of Fear or Dungeon of Doom and they would've disbanded by the end of 1996.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 19, 2012 11:45:30 GMT -5
Sting could have worked if Hogan didn't screw it up as a face. Of course you took that out you had Hogan kill it later but at least there was some good times before that.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 19, 2012 15:37:32 GMT -5
Bischoff confirmed it too. Sting wasn't overly thrilled with the idea but agreed to do it if Hogan wouldn't. Those involved in WCW at the time said the Sting proposal was supposed to be him being bitter about constantly being thrown to the side for Ted Turner's new flavor of the month. So he brought in the Outsiders to help him show WCW how dominant and dangerous he could actually be Although a Sting heel turn would have made sense since he did get bumped down from the World Title picture back to U.S. and World Tag Team Title reigns once Hogan debuted and the fact that he was constantly being the patsy for some heel's evil deeds Sting showing some guile would have been refreshing. However, it really wouldn't make sense for someone upset for being cast aside by new arrivals to align himself with some carpetbaggers from "up north". I think the real question is could Sting have led the LWO. Just imagine that storyline! Sting- I once shook a hand of a Latino man, therefore I must be Latino. Viva La Mazda or something like that. New version of "Los Gringos Locos" featuring Eddie Guerro and The Love Machine They Call SSSSSSTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 19:16:50 GMT -5
I couldn't imagine Sting leading the NWO. If Hogan wasn't the 3rd guy, I'm not so sure it would have been as successful. I don't think Sting is a good heel.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 19, 2012 19:18:14 GMT -5
It wouldn't have had nearly the effect it did if Sting was the leader instead of Hogan.
It was weird enough to have him in the Wolfpack, much less lead the initial NWO group.
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Post by mizerable on Dec 19, 2012 23:40:20 GMT -5
The nWo would have flopped if it was Sting. And that's no disrespect to him, but it was something that just wouldn't have worked. Hogan in the nWo just made so much sense. And in the end, it made Sting look better as well.
It's like if Cena ever turned heel, the guy who takes him down is going to be THE guy.
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Post by notasmark on Dec 20, 2012 5:48:27 GMT -5
Not in 1996 it had to be Hogan or Bret for it to work I think. Bret was huge at the time and Hogan is Hogan.
I think nWo 2000 would of been cool if lead by Sting. Sting and The Outsiders going up against Hogan, Flair and someone younger like Booker or Bagwell.
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