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Post by Red on Dec 30, 2012 21:25:48 GMT -5
Horrible era for the 'E. Just garbage. Aye. This is when the rot really began to set in. 2004 was even more dismal. 2002 gave us the Smackdown Six. So nope, not garbage.
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Dec 31, 2012 1:38:41 GMT -5
This was a great era for Stephanie's ridiculously and wonderfully giant boobs, though. Quite right.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 1:41:02 GMT -5
I think we were supposed to think Stephanie was cool. I didn't.
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Post by Essential1 on Dec 31, 2012 2:24:53 GMT -5
We didn't even get to see her kiss any of those girls during that HLA segment, which would of made alot of sense how Eric was trying to make her feel uncomfortable, and instead we got Rikishi in drag.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Dec 31, 2012 4:18:34 GMT -5
Stephanie was pretty over at that point as a face GM, and Bischoff was still pretty new on WWE tv so it was always interesting to see him interacting in WWE storylines. The rivalry between the two shows was at its best during this period. The kiss was just one of those WWE things. And yeah, 2001-2003 Steph was pretty much the hottest woman to ever appear on WWE programming. She was unfortunately though, the biggest Mary Sue female character in WWE history at that point. It was like 3 months after she was dragged kicking & screaming from WWF when Hunter got her "fired", she returns, and now we were supposed to pretend the character was suddenly a savvy, intelligent, shrewd business woman, instead of a spoiled, entitled, shrew imbecile, that only existed in that world because of her Daddy. Then, they had every male wrestler act like she was the hottest thing ever for two years, she was impossibly smug, she stole the heat from Torrie's Playboy reveal for really no discernible reason, and the worst -- took more abuse in an I quit match than Steve Austin did to Bret Hart, in her match with Vince and STILL didn't "quit". It was the most unrealistic booking in wrestling history, and just about the most egotistical thing I think I've ever seen in WWE (and this was after surviving matches against Brock Lesnar and Big Show!). At No Mercy 2003, Stephanie was presented as tougher than the entire male roster. She was strangled to death by a steel pole, beaten, pulverized, and it *still* took Linda to throw in the towel so she would job.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 4:31:06 GMT -5
Aye. This is when the rot really began to set in. 2004 was even more dismal. 2002 gave us the Smackdown Six. So nope, not garbage. I meant more from around mid-2003. That was the point where you got the never-ending Goldberg-Triple H feud, a rehashed Undertaker-Lesnar feud, Vince McMahon pointlessly feuding with Steph, one of the worst PPVs of the last decade (Armageddon 2003), and then all those months later, Brock walking out on the company.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Dec 31, 2012 10:50:12 GMT -5
I'll agree mostly that Steph was a huge mary-sue character, however I don't think she was an imbecile during the Invasion or before, no more so than any other obnoxious heel manager. As far as all the wrestlers thinking she was the hottest thing ever, well, she was!
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 31, 2012 11:06:57 GMT -5
Really, the best part of it was the "Subway Commercial" they started running on Smackdown of Bischoff standing in front of a huge RAW sign, eating a Subway sandwich.
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Post by donbot on Dec 31, 2012 12:31:43 GMT -5
Weren't they going with an incest angle during that time? With Vince being attracted to his daughter?
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Post by FinalGwen on Dec 31, 2012 12:41:38 GMT -5
I would agree, but that feud included the Billy & Chuck "wedding", one of my favourite segments of all time.
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Post by Lila on Dec 31, 2012 13:03:51 GMT -5
The kiss apparently was suppose to lead to more, but HHH wasn't cool with it and that was that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 13:08:59 GMT -5
It's actually scientifically impossible for Bischoff to have a good feud.
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Post by flatsdomino on Dec 31, 2012 13:26:46 GMT -5
True, but in neither of the heads of either brand being particularly sympathetic or likeable, and yet both of them portraying themselves as the victim of some sort of unfair practices, it was actually a pretty accurate facsimile of the Monday Night Wars.
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Post by Big Kahuna Burger on Dec 31, 2012 13:32:49 GMT -5
Weren't they going with an incest angle during that time? With Vince being attracted to his daughter? LOL not officially, but their match was the creepiest thing I've ever seen in wrestling.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Dec 31, 2012 15:59:18 GMT -5
I would agree, but that feud included the Billy & Chuck "wedding", one of my favourite segments of all time. This. Bischoff pulling off a rubber mask and calling in Three Minute Warning is one of the most utterly beautiful things in wrestling history.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 31, 2012 16:20:53 GMT -5
I would agree, but that feud included the Billy & Chuck "wedding", one of my favourite segments of all time. This. Bischoff pulling off a rubber mask and calling in Three Minute Warning is one of the most utterly beautiful things in wrestling history. It was like a really good disguise too, like it was done on that makeup show that I won't name since they jobbed out the best one.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 31, 2012 16:26:46 GMT -5
Stephanie was pretty over at that point as a face GM, and Bischoff was still pretty new on WWE tv so it was always interesting to see him interacting in WWE storylines. The rivalry between the two shows was at its best during this period. The kiss was just one of those WWE things. And yeah, 2001-2003 Steph was pretty much the hottest woman to ever appear on WWE programming. She was unfortunately though, the biggest Mary Sue female character in WWE history at that point. It was like 3 months after she was dragged kicking & screaming from WWF when Hunter got her "fired", she returns, and now we were supposed to pretend the character was suddenly a savvy, intelligent, shrewd business woman, instead of a spoiled, entitled, shrew imbecile, that only existed in that world because of her Daddy. Then, they had every male wrestler act like she was the hottest thing ever for two years, she was impossibly smug, she stole the heat from Torrie's Playboy reveal for really no discernible reason, and the worst -- took more abuse in an I quit match than Steve Austin did to Bret Hart, in her match with Vince and STILL didn't "quit". It was the most unrealistic booking in wrestling history, and just about the most egotistical thing I think I've ever seen in WWE (and this was after surviving matches against Brock Lesnar and Big Show!). At No Mercy 2003, Stephanie was presented as tougher than the entire male roster. She was strangled to death by a steel pole, beaten, pulverized, and it *still* took Linda to throw in the towel so she would job. At least Cena got to smack that *raises mic*.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 31, 2012 16:31:10 GMT -5
This. Bischoff pulling off a rubber mask and calling in Three Minute Warning is one of the most utterly beautiful things in wrestling history. It was like a really good disguise too, like it was done on that makeup show that I won't name since they jobbed out the best one. And wasn't there a rumor Bischoff was walking around like all day in character?
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Post by FinalGwen on Dec 31, 2012 16:42:54 GMT -5
It was obvious that it was a disguise, but I had no idea it was Bischoff. For some reason, when I first watched it as a kid, I thought it'd end up being Road Dogg trying to break Billy and Chuck up.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Dec 31, 2012 16:46:33 GMT -5
Stephanie was pretty over at that point as a face GM, and Bischoff was still pretty new on WWE tv so it was always interesting to see him interacting in WWE storylines. The rivalry between the two shows was at its best during this period. The kiss was just one of those WWE things. And yeah, 2001-2003 Steph was pretty much the hottest woman to ever appear on WWE programming. She was unfortunately though, the biggest Mary Sue female character in WWE history at that point. It was like 3 months after she was dragged kicking & screaming from WWF when Hunter got her "fired", she returns, and now we were supposed to pretend the character was suddenly a savvy, intelligent, shrewd business woman, instead of a spoiled, entitled, shrew imbecile, that only existed in that world because of her Daddy. Then, they had every male wrestler act like she was the hottest thing ever for two years, she was impossibly smug, she stole the heat from Torrie's Playboy reveal for really no discernible reason, and the worst -- took more abuse in an I quit match than Steve Austin did to Bret Hart, in her match with Vince and STILL didn't "quit". It was the most unrealistic booking in wrestling history, and just about the most egotistical thing I think I've ever seen in WWE (and this was after surviving matches against Brock Lesnar and Big Show!). At No Mercy 2003, Stephanie was presented as tougher than the entire male roster. She was strangled to death by a steel pole, beaten, pulverized, and it *still* took Linda to throw in the towel so she would job. Yes. We were supposed to buy into all of it. Because something something McMahon dammit, something something boobies.
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