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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 17, 2013 22:52:33 GMT -5
Since there was a thread recently about characters who should not have been killed off, here is one for the characters who should have STAYED killed off. I'll start us off with:
Norman Osborne. To me bringing him back totally ruined the character's appeal and legacy. This guy was THE Spidey villain-one of the few (and the very first as I recall) to learn Spider Man's secret identity, the killer of one of Spidey's loves, and the inspiration for numerous other villains to follow. It made him all the more badass and evil that even decades after his death Spider Man was still suffering from various traps and plots he had set in motion before he bit the big one. Bringing him back and putting him in an Iron Man suit of armor totally wrecked the character.
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 17, 2013 22:55:20 GMT -5
Shadow the Hedgehog.
Him coming back ruins his sacrifice at the end of Sonic Adventure 2, IMO.
Though even if he stayed dead, I could still see them using the fight in Generations, as the whole time displacement thing and such from that game could have even briefly brought him back.
But for most of the series, yeah, Shadow shouldn't have made it past Adventure 2.
And this is from someone that didn't think the game "Shadow the Hedgehog" was all that bad.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 17, 2013 23:00:50 GMT -5
Tempting to say Jean Gray, but she is called Phoenix, after all.
I think Bucky coming back completely won me over, after initially hating the idea. I also have mostly made peace with Jason Todd, even if he lost most of his steam after the initial storyline.
Aunt May, absolutely, is the answer.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 17, 2013 23:03:19 GMT -5
Mar-Vell, the Marvel version of Captain Marvel.
Barry Allen
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Jan 17, 2013 23:14:39 GMT -5
Steve Rogers.
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Post by britishbulldog on Jan 17, 2013 23:17:27 GMT -5
Anyone that dies in a soap opera. How do you come back after being blown up in the middle of the ocean in your boat?
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 18, 2013 0:27:04 GMT -5
This begins and ends with Jason Todd. Even as Hush, having him come back just undoes a lot of what makes the modern Batman Batman.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Jan 18, 2013 0:45:59 GMT -5
Angel. Granted we got a good spin-off out of it but holy crap was I pissed when he showed up again. way to completely render the last season and it's awesome finale pointless.
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Post by Danimal on Jan 18, 2013 0:52:55 GMT -5
This begins and ends with Jason Todd. Even as Hush, having him come back just undoes a lot of what makes the modern Batman Batman. This Joker killing Jason became part of the Batman mythos. Plus it was a bold move that kinda flipped the script, going back on that didn't sit well with me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 0:53:39 GMT -5
Sherlock Holmes.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 18, 2013 0:58:25 GMT -5
Shadow the Hedgehog. Him coming back ruins his sacrifice at the end of Sonic Adventure 2, IMO. Though even if he stayed dead, I could still see them using the fight in Generations, as the whole time displacement thing and such from that game could have even briefly brought him back. But for most of the series, yeah, Shadow shouldn't have made it past Adventure 2. And this is from someone that didn't think the game "Shadow the Hedgehog" was all that bad. You know what annoys me about Shadow coming back? The way they completely brush off how it happened. I remember one explanation being that one of Eggman's robots suddenly flew in and caught him, which sounds super ridiculous. Not sure where I heard that from though. |
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Post by mjolnir on Jan 18, 2013 3:29:39 GMT -5
Jason Todd, Hal Jordan, Barry Allen and one that probably will turn some heads...
Bruce Wayne. I'm dead serious too, I loved the dynamic Dick and Damien developed, and felt Dick was really coming into his own in the role and it was a nice change of pace. I felt it was a great story that was beheaded in favor of the status quo.
Admittedly, I knew all along Bruce was coming back, but it didn't help that Dick's time was written so well it made it even more bitter sweet that he was on limited time.
There's others, but those ones are the first ones that come to mind.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 18, 2013 9:00:21 GMT -5
Barry Allen. DC still hasn't done a single story to justify him coming back. with Hal Jordan it was understandable, because he went out like a bitch and was derailed into a villain, plus Geoff Johns went out of his way to give the guy a more unique personality that differentiated him from Kyle Rayner. with Barry, he went out like a total champ, and the fans never really wanted him to come back because his death was such a big deal. and since they brought him back they just wrote him as a poor man's Wally West with CSI cliches tacked on, at the expense of not only Wally (Who the fans unanimously loved) but also Wally's supporting cast, Jay Garrick, Bart Allen and the second far more interesting Zoom (seriously Eobard Thawne can eat a dick, he's just another generic cartoonishly evil villain as opposed to Hunter Zolomon, who actually had believeable motives). on top of that, because of the Justice League cartoon most people are more familiar with Wally as the Flash than Barry, who unlike Hal Jordan has never had the opportunity to build up any kind of mainstream recognition. it'd be like if they rebooted Star trek with Captain Pike as the hero instead of Captain Kirk.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 18, 2013 9:01:41 GMT -5
Since there was a thread recently about characters who should not have been killed off, here is one for the characters who should have STAYED killed off. I'll start us off with: Norman Osborne. To me bringing him back totally ruined the character's appeal and legacy. This guy was THE Spidey villain-one of the few (and the very first as I recall) to learn Spider Man's secret identity, the killer of one of Spidey's loves, and the inspiration for numerous other villains to follow. It made him all the more badass and evil that even decades after his death Spider Man was still suffering from various traps and plots he had set in motion before he bit the big one. Bringing him back and putting him in an Iron Man suit of armor totally wrecked the character. bringing Norman back was fine. trying to turn him into Lex Luthor and put him on the same level as Dr. Doom and Red Skull was the mistake. and trying to pawn him off as an Iron Man villain was just misguided and silly. Mar-Vell, the Marvel version of Captain Marvel. Barry Allen they never brought Mar-Vell back. he's always been dead. the one time they did it was a Skrull, annd that was the plan all along. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 18, 2013 10:19:08 GMT -5
Blue Beetle. I know he HAS stayed dead, and that is the right choice. I still mourn him like a family member.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 18, 2013 11:17:38 GMT -5
Agree and disagree. The way Holmes went out was pretty bad-had it been done better, it would have worked fine to keeping him dead. |
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Jan 18, 2013 11:29:31 GMT -5
Mu La Flaga in Gundam Seed.
He sacrificed himself in a blaze of glory to protect the Archangel, only to be brought back as Neo in Destiny, only because Fukuda felt that Destiny was lacking in "cool adults".
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Post by dav on Jan 18, 2013 11:30:48 GMT -5
Goku.
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 18, 2013 11:36:47 GMT -5
Shadow the Hedgehog. Him coming back ruins his sacrifice at the end of Sonic Adventure 2, IMO. Though even if he stayed dead, I could still see them using the fight in Generations, as the whole time displacement thing and such from that game could have even briefly brought him back. But for most of the series, yeah, Shadow shouldn't have made it past Adventure 2. And this is from someone that didn't think the game "Shadow the Hedgehog" was all that bad. You know what annoys me about Shadow coming back? The way they completely brush off how it happened. I remember one explanation being that one of Eggman's robots suddenly flew in and caught him, which sounds super ridiculous. Not sure where I heard that from though. It's canon from the true ending of the game Shadow The Hedgehog. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 18, 2013 11:49:16 GMT -5
Mu La Flaga in Gundam Seed. He sacrificed himself in a blaze of glory to protect the Archangel, only to be brought back as Neo in Destiny, only because Fukuda felt that Destiny was lacking in "cool adults". that one was particularly stupid. Mu was in a giant robot that was shot with a giant space laser that vaporized it, IN OUTER SPACE! how the hell does anyone survive that? with no visible damage no less? it could've been explained as him being a clone or something but, no, Neo was actually the real Mu all along. still one of the most implausible resurrection stories I've ever heard and I've got shelves full of comics. |
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