Steveweiser
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 26, 2013 21:53:03 GMT -5
From what I heard, it wasn't actually a tournament. It was a bunch of matches that Hogan would consider the most impressive guy out of to name #1 contender. But when Bully Ray saved him from Aces & Eights, he decided to name him #1 contender rather than anyone in those matches.
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Paco
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Post by Paco on Jan 26, 2013 22:15:47 GMT -5
It's Championship Thursday stuff...Hogan always decides the challenger in the end. ...and this time he'll regret his decision. The World Title stuff wouldn't be Championship Thursday stuff unless they really mess with the format. That is 4 people and Hogan getting rid of 3 with the winner getting a shot that night. This sounds like a one night tourney where between the tag champs getting counted out against each other, and the Aces destroying the rest, Hogan had to name a contender. Well, I meant it as kind of a variation to Championship Thursday. In this case, four matches happening to see who Hogan's usual four choices would be.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 26, 2013 22:20:03 GMT -5
The World Title stuff wouldn't be Championship Thursday stuff unless they really mess with the format. That is 4 people and Hogan getting rid of 3 with the winner getting a shot that night. This sounds like a one night tourney where between the tag champs getting counted out against each other, and the Aces destroying the rest, Hogan had to name a contender. Well, I meant it as kind of a variation to Championship Thursday. In this case, four matches happening to see who Hogan's usual four choices would be. Okay, makes more sense.
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Post by froggyfrog on Jan 26, 2013 22:36:06 GMT -5
From what I heard, it wasn't actually a tournament. It was a bunch of matches that Hogan would consider the most impressive guy out of to name #1 contender. But when Bully Ray saved him from Aces & Eights, he decided to name him #1 contender rather than anyone in those matches. I'd be pretty pissed if I was one of the guys competing then
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Post by Sparvid on Jan 26, 2013 23:01:25 GMT -5
Bully Ray, who was not apart of the tournament, is announced as winner. That sounds like something WCW related, straight out of the Things From Old Observer's thread.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 27, 2013 1:00:42 GMT -5
So Bully wins the title, reveals he's always been Aces. Bout time
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 27, 2013 1:12:29 GMT -5
So Bully wins the title, reveals he's always been Aces. Bout time Or Jeff wins and turns heel wondering why we never saw it since he brought back the custom title and his love of motorcycles.
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Post by Rave on Jan 27, 2013 1:58:01 GMT -5
Bully Ray, who was not apart of the tournament, is announced as winner. I wish I could meet whoever booked this and pick their brain a little, to discover just how and why they thought this was a good idea. I mean, not Bully Ray being #1 contender, but how they can justify rendering four whole matches completely pointless in the span of about five seconds. Of course, this is not the first time they threw out matches to decide #1 contendership in favor of something that didn't make sense.
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Post by 4real on Jan 27, 2013 9:24:50 GMT -5
Went to the show last night and I'm not surprised that Bully Ray being number 1 contender is the big talking point. What exactly was the point of the 4 matches if Bully Ray is announced as the number 1 contender?
Hopefully we will see in the next tapings (weird how we have to wait a month now) Magnus and Storm amongst others kicking up a fuss about this decision. Heck Aries, Roode, Angle & Joe were all screwed over in terms of their matches so they all have gripes with Hogan.
Velvet winning the Knockout title was nice to see but the crowd was dead for the match all bar the finish. The non finish to both the Aries Roode match and the Joe Angle match was dissapointing as was TNA's cop out with the cage match (which was the first match taped on Xplosion).
Counter that with the finish to the show which saw Ace's & Eights beat Sting & Bully and it ended on a bit of a downer. Honestly not the best show I've ever seen live. The highlight for me was hearing Daniel's music live and busting a move to it with my friend. But Daniel's booking for the 2 shows left me not optimistic for his future.
Also no back stage segments made things a bit confusing as well.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 27, 2013 10:21:38 GMT -5
Bully Ray, who was not apart of the tournament, is announced as winner. I wish I could meet whoever booked this and pick their brain a little, to discover just how and why they thought this was a good idea. I mean, not Bully Ray being #1 contender, but how they can justify rendering four whole matches completely pointless in the span of about five seconds. Of course, this is not the first time they threw out matches to decide #1 contendership in favor of something that didn't make sense. it used to be that most matches were pointless.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 27, 2013 10:39:29 GMT -5
Back then though the 'pointless' matches were treated as if each victory affected a guy's livelihood; i.e. "the winner's share of the purse".
So even then you had the illusion of purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 12:13:42 GMT -5
Hopefully Hulk naming Bully #1 contender despite not being in the tournament was done purposely to show that Hogan is showing favoritism to Bully. That would make Bully's turn at Lockdown (and he better freakin' turn) more impactful knowing that he finally gained Hogan's trust only to turn on him. TNA has been pretty good at making title contenders have to earn their spots recently so there has to be some storyline reason for this. Otherwise they could have just had Bully destroy someone in the "tournament" and then have Hogan name him #1 contender for that.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 28, 2013 12:07:19 GMT -5
Hopefully Hulk naming Bully #1 contender despite not being in the tournament was done purposely to show that Hogan is showing favoritism to Bully. That would make Bully's turn at Lockdown (and he better freakin' turn) more impactful knowing that he finally gained Hogan's trust only to turn on him. TNA has been pretty good at making title contenders have to earn their spots recently so there has to be some storyline reason for this. Otherwise they could have just had Bully destroy someone in the "tournament" and then have Hogan name him #1 contender for that. Agreed. This could all work if the setup for Lockdown involves guys like Joe, Angle, Storm, Magnus...all guys with reasons to hate and want to fight against Aces and 8's...all being angry at Hogan's clear cut favoritism, and thus they become less likely to help form Sting's team for Lethal Lockdown. Then Bully turns. Hogan realizes he's been had, AND he no longer has the trust of the big guns in TNA's locker room. To me, that could make this all worthwhile: use Lockdown to have a thorough heel victory, Aces and 8's plan (which has gone on too long, period) finally seeing fruition and the good guys in disarray. Would semi-justify (though not fully justify) the Aces losing as much as they have to this point. Then, the road back towards redemption and the defeat of the Aces would begin at Slammaversary, and end at Bound For Glory, as a returning AJ Styles rises above his self-doubting and shame to win the BFG Series and dethrone the Bully. "Mr. TNA" has returned to save the company that nearly abandoned him. ...</end fantasy booking>
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 28, 2013 12:36:18 GMT -5
Hopefully Hulk naming Bully #1 contender despite not being in the tournament was done purposely to show that Hogan is showing favoritism to Bully. That would make Bully's turn at Lockdown (and he better freakin' turn) more impactful knowing that he finally gained Hogan's trust only to turn on him. TNA has been pretty good at making title contenders have to earn their spots recently so there has to be some storyline reason for this. Otherwise they could have just had Bully destroy someone in the "tournament" and then have Hogan name him #1 contender for that. Agreed. This could all work if the setup for Lockdown involves guys like Joe, Angle, Storm, Magnus...all guys with reasons to hate and want to fight against Aces and 8's...all being angry at Hogan's clear cut favoritism, and thus they become less likely to help form Sting's team for Lethal Lockdown. Then Bully turns. Hogan realizes he's been had, AND he no longer has the trust of the big guns in TNA's locker room. To me, that could make this all worthwhile: use Lockdown to have a thorough heel victory, Aces and 8's plan (which has gone on too long, period) finally seeing fruition and the good guys in disarray. Would semi-justify (though not fully justify) the Aces losing as much as they have to this point. Then, the road back towards redemption and the defeat of the Aces would begin at Slammaversary, and end at Bound For Glory, as a returning AJ Styles rises above his self-doubting and shame to win the BFG Series and dethrone the Bully. "Mr. TNA" has returned to save the company that nearly abandoned him. ...</end fantasy booking> Knowing TNA, most of that will happen, except Bully will be defeated by a debuting Daniel Tarver. Just because
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Post by Shazam on Jan 30, 2013 4:01:22 GMT -5
Jesus, are we really this far ahead where the 2/21 tapings have already occurred? Doesn't this seem awful to anyone else?
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Post by TheDarkestKnight on Jan 30, 2013 8:45:06 GMT -5
Jesus, are we really this far ahead where the 2/21 tapings have already occurred? Doesn't this seem awful to anyone else? It could potentially be if something major occurs before any of the shows are broadcast.
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