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Post by osiris on Mar 11, 2013 23:52:13 GMT -5
Evan with DVR, it has been god awful! I haven't been this disinterested in a mania season since, 93. The red hot Swagger angle has already gotten boring, they have tag team title holders that aren't defending the titles, there were so many commercial breaks, Wade Barrett feels like a joke, Lesner is uninteresting, Taker and Punk are predictable, same goes for Rock Cena, Jericho should be doing more, The Shield should be competing more, is big show good or bad? Maddox is a joke, Fandango is a joke. Tensai looks like Albert Cena was gone, as is the WWE title.. Ziggler finally wins a match on RAW after what seemed like 9 years WWE has become hard to watch and not feel like a chore.. The 3 hours of Raw seem stale, over commercialized and full of recaps.. I can't watch Smackdown or the other shows, they bore me to tears. Then don't watch?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 5:02:54 GMT -5
Outside of the Rumble I haven't watched since July, but... Yeah, nothing I'm hearing about has me the slightest bit interested in Mania 29, which'll make it the first Mania I miss in ten years.
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 12, 2013 5:50:28 GMT -5
I think WWE has been great at building this year's 'Mania for the most part.
And I thought Raw was good aside from a couple of weak segments (the Jericho/Miz/Wade/Maddox segment was especially hard to sit through).
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Post by machomuta on Mar 12, 2013 16:23:07 GMT -5
Wait, someone is complaining about Cena being gone? What is wrong with that?? Not everyone hates Cena.
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Post by 8.2.11/SAVIOR_NEZ on Mar 12, 2013 16:59:41 GMT -5
I usually love Wrestlemania season, flaws and all, but I'm not really feeling it this year. I'm really trying, but WWE hasn't really done much to get me excited for Wrestlemania. It's not even that the shows are all that bad, just boring and uneventful. However, the last hour of RAW, save the Kane/Punk match, was excruciating to sit through.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 17:08:38 GMT -5
Fandango and Maddox are the highlight of the show.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 12, 2013 17:21:24 GMT -5
...I actually really enjoyed this episode of Raw...?
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Post by BiloxiParish on Mar 12, 2013 17:41:22 GMT -5
Wait, someone is complaining about Cena being gone? What is wrong with that?? Not everyone hates Cena. I am in no way a Cena fan, but when he is the top dog in WWE with supposedly one of the biggest matches of the year happening (again). You would expect him to be there in full force when there is mere weeks left to build Wrestlemania.. That would go for Rock too, but we all know he has other interest outside of being the WWE Champ..
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 12, 2013 18:59:23 GMT -5
I've started fast-forwarding through a lot of the show now. There's just so many guys I find boring.
ADR = Boring Miz = Boring Sheamus = Boring Orton = Boring Kofi = Boring Big Show (now he's about to turn face) = boring Triple H = Boring New Jericho = Boring Rock = Boring Ziggler = Boring
Really, all I look forward too are Lesnar, Sandow, Ryback, Henry, New Age Outlaws, Cesaro, Bryan, Wade and occasionally Punk.
The rest of the roster not mentioned I don't mind but they're not people I immediately pay attention too or look forward to seeing. The WWE is bad at the moment.
Bad storylines, bad booking, bad characters, repetitive styles and formats. Although I will grant, we do at least tend to get one good to great match each episode.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Mar 12, 2013 19:33:44 GMT -5
I've started fast-forwarding through a lot of the show now. There's just so many guys I find boring. ADR = Boring Miz = Boring Sheamus = Boring Orton = Boring Kofi = Boring Big Show (now he's about to turn face) = boring Triple H = Boring New Jericho = Boring Rock = Boring Ziggler = Boring Really, all I look forward too are Lesnar, Sandow, Ryback, Henry, New Age Outlaws, Cesaro, Bryan, Wade and occasionally Punk. The rest of the roster not mentioned I don't mind but they're not people I immediately pay attention too or look forward to seeing. The WWE is bad at the moment. Bad storylines, bad booking, bad characters, repetitive styles and formats. Although I will grant, we do at least tend to get one good to great match each episode. I agree with the majority of this. I honestly can't remember enjoying the WWE's product less than I do now. I watch because I love wrestling and Monday nights wouldn't feel right without it. But that aside, I agree, it's awful. At this point, it's damn near a 180 minute infomercial.
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Post by r. on Mar 12, 2013 19:38:18 GMT -5
I'd say pack it in and revisit in a few months/years. There are a lot of other promotions out there for you to try. Cosigned. After a 2 year hiatus I'm once again able to endure short doses of WWE programming. I also suggest watching older stuff from the 80's and 90's and, for me anyway, scratches my wrestling itch nicely.
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Mar 13, 2013 23:25:27 GMT -5
It really is awful and there's only a few characters keeping me invested at the moment (and most of them aren't even really featured much on the shows or are booked to look like idiots).
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Post by Welfare Willis on Mar 13, 2013 23:30:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty much watching it out of habit and to rank on it with the fellow posters here in the Raw/Smackdown threads.
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Post by Hanz Moleman on Mar 13, 2013 23:49:21 GMT -5
Just don't watch for awhile, if you're really that bored with it, just watch TNA or old DVD's to get your wrestling fix.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 23:52:16 GMT -5
I've settled into casual viewing. I still try and catch most of Raw, but ROH/PWG are my wrestling mainstays now. I find it hard to completely tune out of WWE because when they strike gold they are really incredible, but for the most part they are far more interested in "building a brand" than they are putting on an interesting television show. There are a lot of times it seems like they are actively trying to stink.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 13, 2013 23:57:36 GMT -5
I'm just tired of the poor time management and blatant misuse of talent.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Mar 14, 2013 1:51:12 GMT -5
See ya next monday!
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Post by Spec_Sun on Mar 14, 2013 2:05:29 GMT -5
Maddox is horrible. I think he's been crap since day one.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 14, 2013 3:26:02 GMT -5
It's piss poor. It's a shame because it could be a lot better. All the raw material is there. They just don't use it properly
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Post by mizerable on Mar 14, 2013 3:42:10 GMT -5
Although I agree with the consensus that WWE seems to have no idea what it's doing when it comes to booking, I disagree with some of the points made about the matches.;
Punk/Taker: As I stated before, Taker himself didn't even seem to care about who he faced at Mania, just letting himself be known that he'll defend his streak against whoever. The match to determine who he would face was made the same night, and that essentially is the entire story. As morbid as it may be, Bearer's death actually fueled the storyline at least, giving Taker a reason to give a damn. Nonetheless, despite how great Punk has been booked over the last few months (and yes, he's been booked quite well, losing to Rock twice and Cena once in a great match doesn't make you booked poorly), we all know the story...Taker will win. We've gone over this path before, almost verbatim with what Punk has said.
Ryback/Shield/Big Show/Henry/Orton and Sheamus?: I put a question mark on there since you would think they could determine a little better what is going to happen. Are we getting a 4 on 4 match? Or is Ryback going to team with Sheamus and Orton against the Shield, while Henry and Big Show get left off? Or is Henry going to face Ryback while Big Show teams with "Team Main Event Faces With No Direction" to take on the Shield? While I want to see Ryback get revenge, it seems pointless to get either Big Show and Henry involved if he does take on the Shield. And Henry teaming with the Shield is just stupid. Henry should be a solitary old grizzly bear and Shield should be a pack of young hungry wolves. We've got just a few weeks left and there's no real leaning.
Triple H/Lesnar: They really booked themselves in a corner here. You have Triple H who almost always wins out on the feuds he's in, Taker and Batista notwithstanding. You've had him twice get dumped on by Lesnar, yet he comes back for more. And Lesnar just signed a new deal, so it would be kind of stupid for him to lose yet again, making his overall comeback feud score as 0-2. Sure, he beat Trips before, but he didn't keep him down, so why should I be worried about him facing anyone else afterwards? Afterall, both Cena and Triple H will have beaten him, so who cares what happens next? Is he going to become more aggressive? Or is that impending on generic heel #184's gimmick? You see the point of having someone like Lesnar on the roster is to build up his reputation as unstoppable. Kind of hard to do that when he's standing at 1 and 2. And even after that, whoever he faces in his last match, it won't mean a damn because we've seen the monster get beat before.
Swagger/Del Rio: Again, as I've stated I don't care for either one of these guys. But while I'll give credit to Del Rio for at least getting over as a face, I can't even bother caring since it involves Swagger...probably one of the least deserving wrestlers on the roster. Yes, I'll even say that Miz is more deserving than Swagger at this point. Swagger sucks the air out of the void and just completely and totally has gotten far more than he ever deserved. I'd much rather see just about any other heel face Del Rio right now, especially since Swagger just returned no less than 2 months ago. We have a cheap manufactured feud, as opposed to revolving around more than cheap racism to drive it.
Rock/Cena: Here's the only feud where I actually kind of care. Yes, it's a retread of last year. But you know what? At least we have a story this time around, as opposed to two guys calling eachother gay or breakfast cereal. Cena has a lot to prove with the last year being nothing but disaster (it would be even more intense if he lost his match with Lesnar, but again WWE doesn't plan ahead). Rock doesn't have much, and is a means to an end, but at least he could say that he shut Cena up for good if he won. I fully expect for this match to be better than their first match, if only for the story they're telling. Nonetheless, it's still not a thrilling conclusion by any means and it's just not something I'd rather watch again, no matter how good the story could be.
Granted, it's too early to tell with other matches, but I think it would be a great time to have Hell No drop the belts in a Strike Force style finish, preferably to Rhodes Scholars (who would then feud with the NAO). Jericho winning the IC title for a 10th time would be a cool moment, although I'd prefer it to be a one on one match with Barrett. It's too bad we can't get Sin Cara vs. Mysterio either, even if it's a quick match. Outside of that, I can't see much else happening. Oh yes I can, a useless Diva's match and a bunch of skits and music packages in order to pad the show. So after all that, there's not much to make me care. It's pretty sad that Wrestlemania has become such a lackluster event. Only 8 years ago did it feel like the event where all stories cultivate and climax at. Now it's just stick people together and showcase guys who aren't there the other 10 months of the year.
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