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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 11:58:35 GMT -5
Beyond disappointed with the inactivity in this game right now. No posts in 13 hours?
Anyway. Artificial Human will be filling in for The Real Slim sMurfy.
Also, I need to find a replacement for Brad.
Fresh vote counts shortly.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 2, 2013 12:04:40 GMT -5
This is ridiculous people. Might as well hand the game over to the Mafia.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 12:21:38 GMT -5
Joker (4): Orange, Connor Mackenzie, Wolf Hurricane, Produceman Yami Redgrave (2): The Shareholder Called Asher, Joker
Not Voting Yami Redgrave Mr B Natural Believes stinger4christ Brad is The Simming Master! "Timeless Star" Double H #2 (Formerly Cageking) "Hollywood" Hawk Jefferson "The Fresh Prince" Magiconz Sloth Spartan #2 (Formerly Hayden) Artificial Human #2 (Formerly The Real Slim sMurfy) Felandria (Jono)
With 16 of you left, it takes 9 votes for a lynch.
The deadline for a lynch is Friday, May 3rd at 7pm (EST).
If pressed, I'm open to extending the deadline to Sunday. Then again, it's doubtful that anyone will even show up between now and then. Come on, people.
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Post by Orange on May 2, 2013 12:29:00 GMT -5
This is ridiculous people. Might as well hand the game over to the Mafia. Yeah, I've no clue what's going on. As I said in an earlier post about the inactivity, I'm not exempt from it, but this is just plain weird. Unless nearly everybody got a role with severe post restrictions, and I doubt that. Past that, I've really nothing to go on past my previous cases. I'm secure in my vote for Joker, but I'll change it if we get too close to the deadline and we're near a lynch. I don't like to do that, but given the inactivity and whatnot my hand might be forced.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on May 2, 2013 12:44:29 GMT -5
Given my earlier observations and such I'm going to go with Orange on my suspicions.
Vote: Joker
While I can appreciate his admission that his logic is a bit off I still find things fishy all around, especially his voting on Smurfy given the level of activity.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on May 2, 2013 12:54:06 GMT -5
Well as he's being replaced and I'm sure AH will be more active.
Unvote: The Real Slim sMurfy
Not really helping himself with his vague Spartan point from yesterday so I will once again ...
Vote: Yami
As for activity don't forget I'm on GMT (British) time and work all day. Although I think I'm fairly vocal since my PC has been fixed. Wouldn't mind seeing a roundup of how many posts players have made if someone could do that.
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Post by Yami Daimao on May 2, 2013 12:57:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm no example for activity myself, but this amount of inactivity is almost startling to see. Vote: JokerHe's one of the 5 I listed earlier. I'm placing my vote on him, because I think Orange dug up some decent information, and I found him voting for sMurfy right when I was one vote away from a lynch, was incredibly odd. That, and we really need a lynch. It truly is a shame none of you caught what Spartan did. Prevented your Lynch? Pointing out mid-game lull? Upgrading from Matt Hardy v.1? If your suggesting Spartan V2 point of a lull mid-game is luring us into complacent behaviour I don't really see it. I don't understand the vagueness of that statement, if you think Spartan did something tell the town what it is. No, what I meant by that was it's a shame no one else was able to catch what Spartan was able to catch, referring to my comment when the hammer dropped on me.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on May 2, 2013 13:00:39 GMT -5
Well as he's being replaced and I'm sure AH will be more active. Unvote: The Real Slim sMurfyNot really helping himself with his vague Spartan point from yesterday so I will once again ... Vote: YamiAs for activity don't forget I'm on GMT (British) time and work all day. Although I think I'm fairly vocal since my PC has been fixed. Wouldn't mind seeing a roundup of how many posts players have made if someone could do that. BRB-71 AH-59 Brad-48 Produce-42 Orange-40 Mr. B-31 Yami-29 Sloth-28 Zack-27 Connor-21 Evil H-20 Joker-17 Stinger-16 Wolf Hurricane-16 Magiconz-16 Lodi-14 Felandria/Jono-12 Asher-10 Hawk-5 Smurfy-4 Cage-3 Hayden-2
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 2, 2013 13:03:39 GMT -5
Orange makes a strong case against Joker - a very strong case. Stronger even than the case that was against Yami in the last day phase.
Vote: Joker
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 2, 2013 18:09:52 GMT -5
Unvote
Boy am I stupid. How could I not see it??? I was wrong about AH and I am wrong about Yami.. He is town.
In case I die, here's my list of Town.
Felandria Asher Mr. B Natural Yami Orange (likely if joker flips scum)
Joker voted late on BRB on day 2 after saying he didn't think he was scum on day 1. I'm thinking he was trying to cover himself.
Vote: Joker
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on May 2, 2013 18:31:50 GMT -5
UnvoteBoy am I stupid. How could I not see it??? I was wrong about AH and I am wrong about Yami.. He is town. In case I die, here's my list of Town. Felandria Asher Mr. B Natural Yami Orange (likely if joker flips scum) Joker voted late on BRB on day 2 after saying he didn't think he was scum on day 1. I'm thinking he was trying to cover himself. Vote: Joker " Saying he didn't think he was scum on day 1" Prove it! I never said anything like that on day one. That is straight up not true. -----------Actual don't I can prove it myself------------ My two posts from day one were word for word. My 1st Post: First day and there isn't much of anything to go on.
Plus it's raining.
My 2nd Post: Well it's still the first day and apart from the Innocent Child reveal we have nothing to go on apart from hunches and conjecture.
I'm holding off doing anything this day for the moment unless something useful shows itself.
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Post by stinger on May 2, 2013 18:47:24 GMT -5
UnvoteBoy am I stupid. How could I not see it??? I was wrong about AH and I am wrong about Yami.. He is town. In case I die, here's my list of Town. Felandria Asher Mr. B Natural Yami Orange (likely if joker flips scum) Joker voted late on BRB on day 2 after saying he didn't think he was scum on day 1. I'm thinking he was trying to cover himself. Vote: Joker Wait, what made you switch your stance on Yami so fast? You don't really explain what you were missing that made you "stupid" to suspect Yami.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on May 2, 2013 18:54:25 GMT -5
Complete change in stance and Produceman quickly switches to get the bandwagon rolling for me to be lynched, not too long after I mention I'm on GMT time so wouldn't be able to defend myself overnight.
FOS: Produceman
Also not that I'm terribly keen on being Lynched but you missed Yami's vote for me Notorious.
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Post by TOO SWEET on May 2, 2013 18:55:50 GMT -5
Stinger, what are your thoughts on Joker?
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 2, 2013 19:07:29 GMT -5
UnvoteBoy am I stupid. How could I not see it??? I was wrong about AH and I am wrong about Yami.. He is town. In case I die, here's my list of Town. Felandria Asher Mr. B Natural Yami Orange (likely if joker flips scum) Joker voted late on BRB on day 2 after saying he didn't think he was scum on day 1. I'm thinking he was trying to cover himself. Vote: Joker " Saying he didn't think he was scum on day 1" Prove it! I never said anything like that on day one. That is straight up not true. -----------Actual don't I can prove it myself------------ My two posts from day one were word for word. My 1st Post: First day and there isn't much of anything to go on.
Plus it's raining.
My 2nd Post: Well it's still the first day and apart from the Innocent Child reveal we have nothing to go on apart from hunches and conjecture.
I'm holding off doing anything this day for the moment unless something useful shows itself. admittedly, that was a mistake on my part. I thought you said BRB wasn't scum Day 1 when in fact you didn't. However, trying to throw me under the bus for one mistake to get the heat off of you reeks of desperation. As for what I saw, let's just say I now know what Spartan saw in Yami's post before the write up. He's town. Joker's gotta go.
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Post by stinger on May 2, 2013 19:11:14 GMT -5
Well, I don't think the case against him is as strong as some make it out to be. The part that stands out to me as suspicious is where he tries to downplay the likelihood that BRB was framing AH. That turned out to be true.
Him wanting to lynch Smufy, an inactive,doesn't really strike me as suspicious.
I don't know what to make of him trying to divert attention from Zack's death. Spartan did that as well, so it's not automatically scummy to me. I don't have a real strong read on him either way, I just don't think it's as cut and dry as others seem to make it. That being said, if he's who we lynch, I'm okay with it because we do need information still, as we're still mostly operating off of hunches and gut feelings.
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Post by TOO SWEET on May 2, 2013 19:21:30 GMT -5
Well Stinger, I'll admit you've been striking me as suspicious quite a bit, so with that being said, I want to hear who you think we should be going for.
Joker: While Produce's statement was factually inaccurate, your actions following it were a bit over the top defensive. And the FOS seemed a bit too "OMGUS" for my liking. Up until this point, I've been leaning town with you but now I'm not so certain. Can you defend/justify your actions for me?
Produce: I get getting off of Yami, but what was with the immediate switch to Joker? I don't get how you got from point a: "We shouldn't lynch Yami" to point b: "We need to lynch Joker".
I'm NOT asking you to explain point a, I'm asking you to explain the transition from A-B and why you now feel Joker is the person to go for.
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Post by stinger on May 2, 2013 19:36:59 GMT -5
What about me is suspicious to you, Spartan? I will do my best to explain and allay your fears.
I already called out Felandria during this day phase. Nothing about his role claim makes sense to me. He changed his story about being protected/protecting himself, and I don't see what the role claim did for him. He says he wanted heat off him by making Mafia believe he was out of abilities, but hadn't done anything to make them think he had abilities to begin with. Just seemed off to me.
I am with Produceman in thinking Yami is town as well. He trusts Felandria, and before his role claim I did too. He (Felandria) still could be Town, but he is the person I am most suspicious of at this point.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 2, 2013 19:45:04 GMT -5
This is what I was referring to (it was on Day 2, not Day 1)Bold added by me. So this was the final Day 1 Vote tally I myself didn't vote as I didn't feel the justification for either lynch targets was viable. It was based on incredibly vague guesswork and I said as much in my 2nd post. All we know is that Asher = Innocent Child. (Arguably that's all we know still) This night phase a vanilla townie Double H (Mikey) was killed off. Double H voted for AH. This means three possible scenarios IMO. 1.AH is Mafia and they want to limit the speculation towards him. 2.BRB is Mafia and there is an attempt/plot to frame AH somehow. (This seems incredibly unlikely)3.Double H was neither inactive or too active so was an easy target. (I Think this myself) IF and it's a huge IF BRB is Mafia then those who didn't vote (plus those who voted for AH) are potential scum. 10 Players (1 Dead). However IF and I'm leaning to this theory currently BRB is town then some of those voters are in fact Mafia. 11 Players
Well would you look at that it's 50-50 right down the middle, that tells us nothing. Having said that what better way to start a Mafia game than to get rid of a guy who unlucky/lucky depending on whose side your on was picked by the Innocent Child, then after settling back to watch that play out they bump off a player not really on the radar. Day 2 should be much more interesting. Plus I would love to hear from other less vocal players who haven't spoken much and there opinions rather that the super chatty peeps. He expresses his doubt for BRB being Mafia here (and suggests that most people that voted for him were scum). He only voted BRB later in the day with very shoddy reasoning.(His was vote #8 out of the needed 11). It seems to me that he placed his vote in order to reference it as proof of his townness should BRB get lynched (which he did end up doing IIRC). Well I said I would leave it for a bit hoping that something new might come along but it hasn't. So ... going to go with the logical vote. VOTE: Boilerroom BrawlerWe need a lynch and Joker seems like the most likely to flip scum. Hope that answers your question Spartan.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on May 2, 2013 19:48:58 GMT -5
Joker: While Produce's statement was factually inaccurate, your actions following it were a bit over the top defensive. And the FOS seemed a bit too "OMGUS" for my liking. Up until this point, I've been leaning town with you but now I'm not so certain. Can you defend/justify your actions for me? I can try, I'm perfectly fine with a player posting a legit reason, hunch or suspicion to vote for me. But when I see something that is a lie then I can't let that slide. Especially as it's 1AM where I am and if that statement isn't checked by other players then I could be in the windmill like Frankenstein's Monster to the angry mob. The FOS is because my previous post mentioned that I am on GMT time and Produceman's abrupt 180 degree switch from Yami to Myself came out of nothing seemingly. This seems like a rather over zealous need for a lynch no matter who it is. With me going offline now unitl morning there could be a good chance if unchallenged that post could create nine votes against me in a very short space of time. ------- Seeing as Produceman mentioned it without quoting it for some reason? ---- Yami's final post prior to the write up. Vote: YamiI really hope this was the right call guys. {Spoiler}Spoiler Spoiler It's not. Well, congratulations Town, you've successfully shot yourselves in the foot. Despite explaining all of my actions, some people continue to ignore or miss it (looking at you, Joker). Before Notorious ends the Day Phase, some final words and wishes: - Mr. B Natural is Town. I'm saying this because people clearly don't read everything I say. I know most of you missed it. - Please do not place your entire trust on Produceman from here on out (well this lynch will prove that anyways). Like I've already stated, there's always a chance he could be Third-Party. - Don't let AH slip away. - Keep an eye on Orange, Spartan, Joker, and Wolf. Good luck. Somewhere in this is the key to Produceman's turn around. Interestingly enough three players going for the lynch of me Orange (orginal Joker is mafia write up),Wolf (ardent supporter) & Produceman (Quick 180 turn around) are all mentioned in a not so town friendly way. Of course Yami was wrong about AH so I'm not sure what could be taken as solid evidence here.
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