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Post by Crimson on May 14, 2013 8:07:24 GMT -5
Kofi has been given chances? Save for the feud with Randy Orton, he's been stuck in midcard purgatory and given mic time like once every 6 months if he's lucky. How the hell is that "given the chance to prove himself?" They talk about "breaking through" and all that, which I always found to be such a ridiculous thing to say in the world of professional wrestling. Afterall, wrestling isn't real and you aren't in charge of where you go or if you win or not. You can go out there and bust your ass, and some agent will say you're trying too hard or are showing up the rest of the roster. You can go out there and work modestly and all the sudden you don't care or anything like that. "And you damn better not be yourself! We have a gimmick for you! Read these lines the way they're written and don't go off script." *looks over Kofi* "So here's the US title, you better do good with it!" *a month passes by* "Dammit, I gave you that title for a reason! Why aren't you going out there and proving yourself? I don't care if you weren't on the show the last 2 weeks, that's no excuse! And who needs mic time now? You're a champion! Well, if you're not going to treat your push with respect, I guess there's someone else who will." *Cesaro passes by* "You there...here's the US title, you better do good with it..." And then Cesaro starts jobbing over and over to Randy Orton for apparent reason.  Seriously, the company has a solid Upper Midcard roster. Kofi, Cesaro, Swagger, Ziggler, Barrett, even The Miz.These guys should be facing each other more often and given more mic time instead of being fed to Orton/Sheamus or in Kofi's case getting shoved into the background and expecting him to be a bigger deal when they take notice again. |
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Post by Sparkybob on May 14, 2013 8:20:03 GMT -5
While Kofi isn't in my fav 5 or anything, I think he deserve a legit test at the main event level to give him a chance to breakout.
I'm wondering who he will feud with Kofi. It seems Ziggy is going to drop the title to Del Rio soon, so that is out of the question for Kofi. Maybe against Mark or Big Show but not sure if their respective feuds will be over soon. So it might take a while to clear out some of the clog on the top of the card to give Kofi a real shot.
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Post by Starshine on May 14, 2013 8:27:53 GMT -5
Believe it when I see it. I don't know. When they push a load like Swagger, I'm willing to believe they'd push anyone. |
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 14, 2013 10:56:24 GMT -5
After winning 7 midcard titles and 3 tag titles, he's become more stale than how most people consider John Cena, IMO.
Just do SOMETHING with him.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2013 11:52:42 GMT -5
Kofi's big push will consist of getting to be in the ring when Dean Ambrose wins the US title.
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Post by amaron on May 14, 2013 12:07:35 GMT -5
I just don't see his character working as a main eventer.
Now, if they turn him heel and put him as some sort of 'Corporate Rock' character, then I think it'd work better.
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Post by The Portable Stove on May 14, 2013 13:11:49 GMT -5
We need him in the ring wearing a suit while talking about "you people."
I wonder how Kofi would do as a heel though. I don't think we've had a high flyer as a heel since the Mexicools.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 14, 2013 13:17:36 GMT -5
While Kofi isn't in my fav 5 or anything, I think he deserve a legit test at the main event level to give him a chance to breakout. I'm wondering who he will feud with Kofi. It seems Ziggy is going to drop the title to Del Rio soon, so that is out of the question for Kofi. Maybe against Mark or Big Show but not sure if their respective feuds will be over soon. So it might take a while to clear out some of the clog on the top of the card to give Kofi a real shot. I think at this point rehashing the feud with Ziggler would be a step up. Ziggler has been higher in the pecking order than Kofi ever since Kofi lost the U.S. Title to him. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2013 13:21:37 GMT -5
I'd like to see Kofi on the WHC level, with Ziggler/Del Rio/Orton/Sheamus. But, someone would need to turn heel.
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Post by bootytea on May 14, 2013 13:21:40 GMT -5
It had better happen.
Kofi Kingston not being pushed as the face of the company is ludicrous.
This guy is mad over and finally having a minority as your main champion will be great for their reputation.
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Post by babyfootball on May 14, 2013 13:22:35 GMT -5
Hell, they've even been doing that with the Tag Team titles. Kofi and Punk, Air Boom, Air Truth. I think Kofi's won more titles than any of the other midcarders around. This is a good point, and it actually has a lot to do with his poor booking over the last few years. For every time he's won one of those midcard belts, he's had to LOSE it to some up-and-coming heel within a few months and never really establishes a "run." What has happened because of all that hot potatoing of the midcard belts (which I think is partially to make up for the lack of WWE title changes) has made the reigns indistinguishable. To be fair, they've been doing this on-and-off since the '90s and it seems like every time they start to build the IC and US belts up a bit, they get bored with what they're doing and put it on every damn midcarder at least once. Kofi is just so steady that he's always a credible babyface to either team somebody with or put a middling heel against. It's just oversaturation, and it's not only a problem for Kofi, but for a lot of the midcard. So many of them are so competent in almost all facets that nobody really stands out. The quality of in-ring wrestling in the midcard is as good as it's ever been, and I see it taken for granted ALL THE TIME, especially around here. I still think Kofi can work in a Booker-ish role, probably never "the" guy but it'd be nice for them to give him the chance to shake it up a bit and see if he can have a breakthrough angle. The angle with Randy a few years ago, and I don't think Kofi dropped the ball aside from the "stupid!" incident. I don't think the booking was ever truly behind him in the first place in that one and then the botch (which should never have been that big of a deal) and Orton's temper tantrum just gave them a convenient excuse to change course rather abruptly. But I'll echo the sentiment that I'll believe it when I see it. |
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 14, 2013 13:50:26 GMT -5
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 14, 2013 14:12:31 GMT -5
They talk about "breaking through" and all that, which I always found to be such a ridiculous thing to say in the world of professional wrestling. Afterall, wrestling isn't real and you aren't in charge of where you go or if you win or not. You can go out there and bust your ass, and some agent will say you're trying too hard or are showing up the rest of the roster. You can go out there and work modestly and all the sudden you don't care or anything like that. "And you damn better not be yourself! We have a gimmick for you! Read these lines the way they're written and don't go off script." *looks over Kofi* "So here's the US title, you better do good with it!" *a month passes by* "Dammit, I gave you that title for a reason! Why aren't you going out there and proving yourself? I don't care if you weren't on the show the last 2 weeks, that's no excuse! And who needs mic time now? You're a champion! Well, if you're not going to treat your push with respect, I guess there's someone else who will." *Cesaro passes by* "You there...here's the US title, you better do good with it..." And then Cesaro starts jobbing over and over to Randy Orton for apparent reason. Seriously, the company has a solid Upper Midcard roster. Kofi, Cesaro, Swagger, Ziggler, Barrett, even The Miz. These guys should be facing each other more often and given more mic time instead of being fed to Orton/Sheamus or in Kofi's case getting shoved into the background and expecting him to be a bigger deal when they take notice again. It's a shame the way they neglect their midcard. Because they book it so badly, anyone considered midcard is looked at as a jobber, which means the only way they won't be looked down at is if they're in the main event. Which means the main event gets congested, the midcard gets neglected - it just throws the whole balance off. As for Kingston, I'll believe it when I see it; and even then, I probably won't believe it. Talking about "one more chance," he only had one and they ripped the floor from underneath him! |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 14, 2013 14:13:25 GMT -5
He may get pushed all the way to the intercontinental title!  |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 14, 2013 15:43:31 GMT -5
I am so indifferent to Kofi it's ridiculous. There are guys on the roster I despise and never want to see again, but at least I register emotion with them.
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Post by Joshie el Gato Rey on May 14, 2013 15:54:55 GMT -5
Maybe it'll be the same push Kane gave Zack Ryder. Then Kofi can go to TNA and reveal he was the mastermind behind Aces & Eights. Then it will make sense why they've been STUPID STUPID.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 14, 2013 17:29:55 GMT -5
And then Cesaro starts jobbing over and over to Randy Orton for apparent reason. Seriously, the company has a solid Upper Midcard roster. Kofi, Cesaro, Swagger, Ziggler, Barrett, even The Miz. These guys should be facing each other more often and given more mic time instead of being fed to Orton/Sheamus or in Kofi's case getting shoved into the background and expecting him to be a bigger deal when they take notice again. It's a shame the way they neglect their midcard. Because they book it so badly, anyone considered midcard is looked at as a jobber, which means the only way they won't be looked down at is if they're in the main event. Which means the main event gets congested, the midcard gets neglected - it just throws the whole balance off. As for Kingston, I'll believe it when I see it; and even then, I probably won't believe it. Talking about "one more chance," he only had one and they ripped the floor from underneath him! I agree with this. There are way too many people on the roster presented as main eventers in the narrative. And a good chunk of those guys are in this weird middle spot of being not good enough/not ready/not their turn to be in line for a World Title shot/reign, but are "too good" for the midcard (sometimes this includes midcard champions), and this leads to them running through the real midcarders and making them look like jobbers. |
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Post by mrjl on May 14, 2013 17:49:00 GMT -5
They talk about "breaking through" and all that, which I always found to be such a ridiculous thing to say in the world of professional wrestling. Afterall, wrestling isn't real and you aren't in charge of where you go or if you win or not. You can go out there and bust your ass, and some agent will say you're trying too hard or are showing up the rest of the roster. You can go out there and work modestly and all the sudden you don't care or anything like that. "And you damn better not be yourself! We have a gimmick for you! Read these lines the way they're written and don't go off script." *looks over Kofi* "So here's the US title, you better do good with it!" *a month passes by* "Dammit, I gave you that title for a reason! Why aren't you going out there and proving yourself? I don't care if you weren't on the show the last 2 weeks, that's no excuse! And who needs mic time now? You're a champion! Well, if you're not going to treat your push with respect, I guess there's someone else who will." *Cesaro passes by* "You there...here's the US title, you better do good with it..." And then Cesaro starts jobbing over and over to Randy Orton for apparent reason. Seriously, the company has a solid Upper Midcard roster. Kofi, Cesaro, Swagger, Ziggler, Barrett, even The Miz.These guys should be facing each other more often and given more mic time instead of being fed to Orton/Sheamus or in Kofi's case getting shoved into the background and expecting him to be a bigger deal when they take notice again. those guys face each other constantly. |
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Post by mrjl on May 14, 2013 17:50:24 GMT -5
It's a shame the way they neglect their midcard. Because they book it so badly, anyone considered midcard is looked at as a jobber, which means the only way they won't be looked down at is if they're in the main event. Which means the main event gets congested, the midcard gets neglected - it just throws the whole balance off. As for Kingston, I'll believe it when I see it; and even then, I probably won't believe it. Talking about "one more chance," he only had one and they ripped the floor from underneath him! I agree with this. There are way too many people on the roster presented as main eventers in the narrative. And a good chunk of those guys are in this weird middle spot of being not good enough/not ready/not their turn to be in line for a World Title shot/reign, but are "too good" for the midcard, and this leads to them running through the real midcarders and making them look like jobbers. then maybe it's time to re-evaluate positions in companies. I mean Orton is a main eventer theoretically, but hasn't it been a prtty long time since he main evented a PPV? |
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Post by mrbananagrabber on May 15, 2013 4:59:26 GMT -5
There's not many things that would actually get me to stop watching wrestling, but Kofi f***ing Kingston becoming a main event wrestler could certainly do it.
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