Ragnal
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Post by Ragnal on May 22, 2013 22:20:13 GMT -5
I find it odd that, of all the WCW video footage they have, of all the opportunities they've had to use it to their advantage, of all the chances to piss on WCW's legacy, they almost never bring that moment up.
Like, every time they mention Foley winning the WWE title? Not a showing of what WCW offered to combat that. I don't even think it was on the nWo DVD released last year. I didn't buy the Best of Nitro videos, so I'm not sure about those. Anyone know?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 22, 2013 22:24:57 GMT -5
They've referenced it on the website, and in the nWo Roundtable on the nWo Blu-Ray.
Of course Kevin Nash defends it by saying the idea was that Goldberg was to tear through the nWo, but him getting injured when he punched the limo stopped it. Just forget that the Fingerpoke happened in January and Goldberg's injury happened in December.
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Post by RI Richmark on May 22, 2013 22:36:24 GMT -5
I remember a few weeks after the Fingerpoke, then WWF Commissioner Shawn Michaels order a match between The Rock and Kane who were both in the Corporation. As Vince McMahon was giving instructions to both wrestlers in the ring the mike clearly picked up McMahon telling the Rock to poke Kane with his finger, Kane to go down and let's get out of here. Kane refused but I don't remember what happened after that.
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Post by evilhomer on May 22, 2013 22:55:50 GMT -5
I remember a few weeks after the Fingerpoke, then WWF Commissioner Shawn Michaels order a match between The Rock and Kane who were both in the Corporation. As Vince McMahon was giving instructions to both wrestlers in the ring the mike clearly picked up McMahon telling the Rock to poke Kane with his finger, Kane to go down and let's get out of here. Kane refused but I don't remember what happened after that. I vaguely remember that. Somebody said something along the lines of "we're not going to do some lame fingerpoke spot, we're going to have a real match"
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Post by SOR on May 23, 2013 0:14:05 GMT -5
They mentioned it on the Monday Night Wars DVD
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Post by Perd on May 23, 2013 0:16:17 GMT -5
I thought this was going to be another Layla thread.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on May 23, 2013 1:04:00 GMT -5
It was referenced when Dusty Rhodes was guest hosting Raw that one time. I remember that he, HBK, and HHH were watching a recently released DVD about WCW in backstage segments, with the two DX guys burying the promotion and Dusty defending it since he was part of it at the time.
Anyway, at the beginning of one segment they were watching the Fingerpoke and either Hunter or Shawn said something like "Now this was the beginning of the end."
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on May 23, 2013 3:09:19 GMT -5
It was referenced when Dusty Rhodes was guest hosting Raw that one time. I remember that he, HBK, and HHH were watching a recently released DVD about WCW in backstage segments, with the two DX guys burying the promotion and Dusty defending it since he was part of it at the time. Anyway, at the beginning of one segment they were watching the Fingerpoke and either Hunter or Shawn said something like "Now this was the beginning of the end." Ironic since Nash and Hogan stole the angle from Shawn and HHH who did the original angle back in November '97.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on May 23, 2013 3:36:49 GMT -5
It was referenced when Dusty Rhodes was guest hosting Raw that one time. I remember that he, HBK, and HHH were watching a recently released DVD about WCW in backstage segments, with the two DX guys burying the promotion and Dusty defending it since he was part of it at the time. Anyway, at the beginning of one segment they were watching the Fingerpoke and either Hunter or Shawn said something like "Now this was the beginning of the end." Ironic since Nash and Hogan stole the angle from Shawn and HHH who did the original angle back in November '97. That's right, with the European Championship. I'm probably not the first who's made the following observations, but here are the reasons I think it was so bad for WCW and not very bad for the WWF: -When HBK/HHH did it, it was with the third or fourth most important belt in the promotion. When Hogan and Nash did it, it was with the world title. -HBK and HHH hadn't been feuding for months; Slaughter just booked them to face one another and they spent the night pretending to argue over it before putting on a joke of a match and going right back to being BFF. Compare that to Hogan and Nash, where as the leaders of nWo Wolfpac and Hollywood they had been feuding for a long time. Fans who stayed tuned to Nitro expected them to fight like they still hated one another, and they were robbed of that, in addition to being robbed of a world title match. It was also an incredibly anticlimactic way to end the feud. -Bischoff telling Schiavone to spoil the main event of Raw. When Shawn lay down for Hunter in their European Championship match, there probably was a better main event happening over on Nitro, but the WWF hadn't told anybody what it was. So I'm guessing that a lot of people watching Raw were thinking "Wow, that was lame. Oh well," whereas a lot of people watching Nitro were thinking "Wow, that was lame, and I can't believe that I chose to watch that when I could have been watching Mankind vs. The Rock! I missed out by watching WCW instead of WWF!"
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 5:42:35 GMT -5
Diddn't WWF actually do something very similar to the fingerpoke of doom in 1997 in a match between HBK and HHH? granted it was only for the European title, but still.......
EDIT: Beaten to it again
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Post by horsemen4ever on May 23, 2013 16:59:39 GMT -5
Well actully the WWF did it first. Shawn Michaels vs HHH for the European title in Dec 97 on Raw, HBK lays down and let HHH win. That doesn't get no flack, yet the finger point of doom gets that.
But I watch both of as it happened, I knew HBK and HHH was going to pull some swerve, I know it was coming, any intelligent was probably thinking the samething, no one thought Nash was going to lay down for Hogan.
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Post by The Ichi on May 23, 2013 17:02:28 GMT -5
Well actully the WWF did it first. Shawn Michaels vs HHH for the European title in Dec 97 on Raw, HBK lays down and let HHH win. That doesn't get no flack, yet the finger point of doom gets that. To be fair, it made more sense with DX, since it completely suited their characters.
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Post by Captain2 on May 23, 2013 17:11:14 GMT -5
It was funny when DX did it and anti-climactic when Hogan and Nash did it.
DX were forced to face each other despite being best friends, it makes sense in character they'd just screw around and put the friendship above a midcard title.
NWO White and Black and NWO Red and Black were building up to be a huge feud that could have sold out a pay per view if they played their cards right. Nash and Hogan weren't portrayed as BFFs at that point and even then the WCW World title was the kind of thing that people were portrayed to value above even their best friendships at times. It reeked of "SWERVE!" without much thought into it.
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Post by horsemen4ever on May 23, 2013 17:11:31 GMT -5
Also I thought HHH's "victory" speech was hillarous, it was a swerve (a sweve I saw coming) but got a good chuckle out of it, the finger point of doom did nothing of the sorts. And I remember that DX match was the same night as the nwo Nitro disater, so there wasn't anything the WWF could do to look bad compared to nwo Nitro.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 19:31:10 GMT -5
Is it just me or is the bump he took for the fingerpoke the best one he'd ever taken?
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on May 23, 2013 19:51:23 GMT -5
When Shawn had that needless heel turn in 2005 one line was "watcha gonna do when HBK won't lay down for you?" which I imagine was a reference
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 23, 2013 21:25:24 GMT -5
When Shawn had that needless heel turn in 2005 one line was "watcha gonna do when HBK won't lay down for you?" which I imagine was a reference I think that might just be a more a reference to Hogan's WCW creative control and overall demands that he be the one to go over pretty much always more than the fingerpoint itself.
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Post by Waffel113 on May 23, 2013 21:51:39 GMT -5
I think there was an indirect reference to it in WWE 12's CAW Storyline. I forget the exact details, but it involved Nash.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on May 23, 2013 22:42:38 GMT -5
I wonder who thought it would be a good idea to combat the Foley WWF title victory with a failed attempt at reviving another NWO phase. I watch the Fingerpoke and you see these jackasses hopping for joy as Hogan is strutting around like an asshole. Seriously. Thats what you give your SOLD OUT crowd in Georgia? a f***ing fluke swerve? I believe Goldberg was "arrested" that night too and returned to lay waste. Why not just have him in the match?
I was too young to watch WCW since I believe I was...4 or 5. So I could have my history all wrong. Correct me, please, if I am.^^^
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Post by thecrusherwi on May 23, 2013 23:14:42 GMT -5
It was referenced when Dusty Rhodes was guest hosting Raw that one time. I remember that he, HBK, and HHH were watching a recently released DVD about WCW in backstage segments, with the two DX guys burying the promotion and Dusty defending it since he was part of it at the time. Anyway, at the beginning of one segment they were watching the Fingerpoke and either Hunter or Shawn said something like "Now this was the beginning of the end." Ironic since Nash and Hogan stole the angle from Shawn and HHH who did the original angle back in November '97. I still can't believe that they did that in a match for the coveted European title
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