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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 25, 2013 8:59:28 GMT -5
The question is bigger than what you've asked.
If I was to go see Godspeed You! Black Emperor then stage presence doesn't matter. You go there to sit and listen and vibe to the music. Same with Pink Floyd. The music and the stage props do the job for you.
If I was to go see Minor Threat or some other punk act, stage presence is a huge factor because they don't use the bells and whistles and their music is as much about participation as it is about listening.
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Post by salsashark on May 25, 2013 10:26:48 GMT -5
Yes, it is incredibly important. It's why I've always been bored to pieces seeing Mastodon.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2013 10:40:20 GMT -5
Yes, it is incredibly important. It's why I've always been bored to pieces seeing Mastodon. This is why I like hearing different opinions like this. I am 100% on the other side of your opinion in regards to Mastodon specifically; watching them stand still while playing "Dry Bone Valley" is still completely enthralling to me. EDIT: I want to add that rappers without stage presence is a whole different issue for me. Nothing turns me off more than seeing rappers perform with a lack of energy. You don't have to be Method Man, but please don't rap like you're about to fall asleep. |
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Post by salsashark on May 25, 2013 11:06:48 GMT -5
Yes, it is incredibly important. It's why I've always been bored to pieces seeing Mastodon. This is why I like hearing different opinions like this. I am 100% on the other side of your opinion in regards to Mastodon specifically; watching them stand still while playing "Dry Bone Valley" is still completely enthralling to me. EDIT: I want to add that rappers without stage presence is a whole different issue for me. Nothing turns me off more than seeing rappers perform with a lack of energy. You don't have to be Method Man, but please don't rap like you're about to fall asleep. I appreciate how reasonable you are. I know some metal heads who would massacre me for what I just said.  But why the exception for rap? Not all rappers have the same kind of angle so I'm not sure why they all need presence when bands don't. What if they're one of the more somber indie rappers or someone who raps fast and weird like Busdriver or DoseOne? Couldn't exceptions occur based on style? |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2013 11:22:02 GMT -5
Yeah, there could definitely be exceptions. Your post made me realize how general my comment was and that wasn't what I was going for. I guess I'm just more sensitive to a lack of energy when it happens with rappers. Maybe because Not really familiar with rappers like the ones you mentioned so that probably plays into it as well.
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Post by Orange on May 25, 2013 11:32:37 GMT -5
Well, I think stage presence is more noticeable when it comes to rappers because, as opposed to a band where the spotlight is split up between multiple people, often times a rapper is a single person in the spotlight. So, there's more focus on them to be entertaining. Of course this isn't a general statement, but when you have one guy in the forefront as opposed to 3 or 4, he better be damn entertaining to watch.
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Post by salsashark on May 25, 2013 12:01:48 GMT -5
Yeah, there could definitely be exceptions. Your post made me realize how general my comment was and that wasn't what I was going for. I guess I'm just more sensitive to a lack of energy when it happens with rappers. Maybe because Not really familiar with rappers like the ones you mentioned so that probably plays into it as well. If you ever want to give those dudes I mentioned a shot, I'd recommend these two. Worth at least a listen: (BTW, I'm guessing they do have stage presence; I was just playing devil's advocate.) |
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on May 28, 2013 18:01:27 GMT -5
Yes. People don't go to concerts just for the music. They can click on a track at home and listen to music. They go to concerts for the live experience and being among fans. A live musician with a crowd already has half the battle won - they got people to come see them live. If they can entertain the crowd beyond the music that they can listen to on their iPod, they enhance that live experience and they'll get them back, maybe with friends, for future concerts.
It comes down to charisma. Sometimes it's how you address the crowd. Sometimes it's how you move about and show energy on the stage. Sometimes it's performing the song a little differently from on the album. Sometimes it's the lighting. The point is, put on a show besides playing the same song that your fans can listen to at home. The food is not the lunch.
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Post by Cesaro Smirk on May 28, 2013 20:18:22 GMT -5
Well, I think stage presence is more noticeable when it comes to rappers because, as opposed to a band where the spotlight is split up between multiple people, often times a rapper is a single person in the spotlight. So, there's more focus on them to be entertaining. Of course this isn't a general statement, but when you have one guy in the forefront as opposed to 3 or 4, he better be damn entertaining to watch. Not only that, they aren't playing instruments usually. If a singer is also playing a guitar or something it's far more forgivable than someone who is not imo. |
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