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Post by Lupin the Third on Jun 8, 2013 20:35:21 GMT -5
Yvan eht nioj!
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Dat Dude
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Post by Dat Dude on Jun 8, 2013 21:12:43 GMT -5
Thanks for all the kind words everyone. Much appreciated. Happy sailing, shipmate. If you haven't done so already, I recommend you spend some time getting familiar with your chain of command, your rank & recognition, and developing an attention to detail. The biggest challenge I had before my medical separation at boot camp was to stop overthinking things and simply do what my petty officer and chief instructed me to do without adding to the instructions. The operational tempo will be a pretty steady grind, but if you've been training for several months, you'll do fine. Its the goofuses that show up and can't run a quarter mile and do a single pushup (much less pass their PFA at minimum standard) that have to worry. The yelling, the constant yowling from the petty officers and chiefs, the adjustment to a high fiber/low protein diet, the lack of downtime, lack of personal space, etc, is all very temporary and designed to get you off your rocker quickly, but once you adjust (a couple weeks, usually), you almost come to love it. If you don't mind my asking, what's your rate? If you're spending 4-6 months in A-school, obviously it's not pac-seaman. Thanks for the advice. I've got the general orders, sailor's creed, and rank & recognition memorized. I can meet the 1.5 mile run time as well as the push-ups and sit-ups for my age group. Swimming will be the challenge for me. I've only been able to take a few lessons and can barely do a backstroke and still struggle with freestyle stroke and doing a prone float. So I'll likely be put in the early morning swim classes at basic. I'll start at E-3 (Seaman) and my contract is AV. Once I get to A school, I'll either get choosen for AE or AT (Hoping for AT).
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Post by Dat Dude on Jun 8, 2013 21:17:44 GMT -5
You're trying to join the Armed Force too?! I'm going for the Air Force though. Great to here, perhaps we'll cross paths in our travels. I tried Air Force first, but the recruiter said I was too old to join in time. They said they needed me in boot camp before I turned 28, and since delayed deployment takes several months I wasn't going to make it in time. But yeah if you can get into air force, go for it. My step-dad served in it and the army and he's always said that the air force work/lifestyle is by far the easiest and most rewarding. Are awaiting to go into bootcamp or are you in the process of signing up?
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jun 8, 2013 21:35:55 GMT -5
Thanks for all the kind words everyone. Much appreciated. Happy sailing, shipmate. If you haven't done so already, I recommend you spend some time getting familiar with your chain of command, your rank & recognition, and developing an attention to detail. The biggest challenge I had before my medical separation at boot camp was to stop overthinking things and simply do what my petty officer and chief instructed me to do without adding to the instructions. The operational tempo will be a pretty steady grind, but if you've been training for several months, you'll do fine. Its the goofuses that show up and can't run a quarter mile and do a single pushup (much less pass their PFA at minimum standard) that have to worry. The yelling, the constant yowling from the petty officers and chiefs, the adjustment to a high fiber/low protein diet, the lack of downtime, lack of personal space, etc, is all very temporary and designed to get you off your rocker quickly, but once you adjust (a couple weeks, usually), you almost come to love it. If you don't mind my asking, what's your rate? If you're spending 4-6 months in A-school, obviously it's not pac-seaman. Thanks for the advice. I've got the general orders, sailor's creed, and rank & recognition memorized. I can meet the 1.5 time as well as the push-ups and sit-ups for my age group. Swimming will be the challenge for me. I've only been able to take a few lessons and can barely do a backstroke and still struggle with freestyle stroke and doing a prone float. So I'll likely be put in the early morning swim classes at basic. I'll start at E-3 (Seaman) and my contract is AV. Once I get to A school, I'll either get choosen for AE or AT (Hoping for AT). Groovy. I was SECF, headed into ET. Would've been 9 months A-school for me. If I can get my eyes to check out (which was the cause for my medical separation) and I go back in, I'm fighting to get that job back, and this time, will take my college credit in so that I can get E3 as well. I assume at the end of your A-school, like me, you'd be a third class, yeah? A couple pieces of advice about your actual ship date... When you ship, get a good night's sleep at the hotel you're at for MEPS. Then, if you have a wait at your departing airport, sleep at the USO. Then, depending on the length of your flight, sleep on the flight. Upon arrival, you'll be up for upwards of 24-30 hours straight. They have a new way of doing P-Days now, so you won't have the 72 hour grind that you've heard about, but there were numerous recruits that dicked around in the hotel and at the airport prior to shipping that wound up having to be awake for 72 hours or so because they didn't sleep at the hotel or any other time when the opportunity arose. Falling asleep = attention from petty officers, and attention from petty officers on Night of Arrival is something to be avoided. I arrived at about 2330 on 13FEB13, so I only had about 20 hours to fight through before we tapped at 2000 the following evening. Don't spend your voucher in your departing airport. When you fly into O'Hare, get chow there. EAT BIG. Whatever you're weighing in at is where you're at, and one big meal that night won't make or break you. You won't be taking in any more nutrition until breakfast chow around 0600 the morning after you arrive, so spend every dime of the $23 or whatever they give you BEFORE you report to the USO. Once you get to the USO, you go downstairs to get hollered at until you get on the bus. Personally, I ate a ton at Johnny Rocket's, and had energy all the way through until that night. HYDRATE! I can't stress this enough. You won't PT until medical checks you out, but hydration equals energy, as well as not looking dumb during Night of Arrival when you can't produce a urine sample. Hydration is simply a good habit to get into. When your petty officer states that you can hydrate at will, suck on that canteen (now actually Nalgene bottles). Once you learn what IT is...heh...you'll be glad you did. I envy you, man. I'm going to fight like hell to get back in, because I feel like I left something unfinished. You're doing something that a lot of people say they could, but never actually nut up and do. Here's hoping your stay at RTC turns out better than mine did. Nothing but mad admiration for ya, man.
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Post by OGJB is Slender on Jun 8, 2013 21:37:44 GMT -5
Good luck! Wish you nothing but the best. Give 'em hell!
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Post by Dat Dude on Jun 8, 2013 21:48:24 GMT -5
Thanks for all the kind words everyone. Much appreciated. Thanks for the advice. I've got the general orders, sailor's creed, and rank & recognition memorized. I can meet the 1.5 time as well as the push-ups and sit-ups for my age group. Swimming will be the challenge for me. I've only been able to take a few lessons and can barely do a backstroke and still struggle with freestyle stroke and doing a prone float. So I'll likely be put in the early morning swim classes at basic. I'll start at E-3 (Seaman) and my contract is AV. Once I get to A school, I'll either get choosen for AE or AT (Hoping for AT). Groovy. I was SECF, headed into ET. Would've been 9 months A-school for me. If I can get my eyes to check out (which was the cause for my medical separation) and I go back in, I'm fighting to get that job back, and this time, will take my college credit in so that I can get E3 as well. I assume at the end of your A-school, like me, you'd be a third class, yeah? A couple pieces of advice about your actual ship date... When you ship, get a good night's sleep at the hotel you're at for MEPS. Then, if you have a wait at your departing airport, sleep at the USO. Then, depending on the length of your flight, sleep on the flight. Upon arrival, you'll be up for upwards of 24-30 hours straight. They have a new way of doing P-Days now, so you won't have the 72 hour grind that you've heard about, but there were numerous recruits that dicked around in the hotel and at the airport prior to shipping that wound up having to be awake for 72 hours or so because they didn't sleep at the hotel or any other time when the opportunity arose. Falling asleep = attention from petty officers, and attention from petty officers on Night of Arrival is something to be avoided. I arrived at about 2330 on 13FEB13, so I only had about 20 hours to fight through before we tapped at 2000 the following evening. Don't spend your voucher in your departing airport. When you fly into O'Hare, get chow there. EAT BIG. Whatever you're weighing in at is where you're at, and one big meal that night won't make or break you. You won't be taking in any more nutrition until breakfast chow around 0600 the morning after you arrive, so spend every dime of the $23 or whatever they give you BEFORE you report to the USO. Once you get to the USO, you go downstairs to get hollered at until you get on the bus. Personally, I ate a ton at Johnny Rocket's, and had energy all the way through until that night. HYDRATE! I can't stress this enough. You won't PT until medical checks you out, but hydration equals energy, as well as not looking dumb during Night of Arrival when you can't produce a urine sample. Hydration is simply a good habit to get into. When your petty officer states that you can hydrate at will, suck on that canteen (now actually Nalgene bottles). Once you learn what IT is...heh...you'll be glad you did. I envy you, man. I'm going to fight like hell to get back in, because I feel like I left something unfinished. You're doing something that a lot of people say they could, but never actually nut up and do. Here's hoping your stay at RTC turns out better than mine did. Nothing but mad admiration for ya, man. I won't be taking a plane since I already live in IL. They'll shuttle me up there on the 12th in the morning, but I'll definitely keep your advice in mind. It's really helpful. Good luck to you as well.
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Post by Lila on Jun 8, 2013 23:01:26 GMT -5
You're trying to join the Armed Force too?! I'm going for the Air Force though. Great to here, perhaps we'll cross paths in our travels. I tried Air Force first, but the recruiter said I was too old to join in time. They said they needed me in boot camp before I turned 28, and since delayed deployment takes several months I wasn't going to make it in time. But yeah if you can get into air force, go for it. My step-dad served in it and the army and he's always said that the air force work/lifestyle is by far the easiest and most rewarding. Are awaiting to go into bootcamp or are you in the process of signing up? It runs in the family here. Both my parents were in the Army and Mom's brother was in as well. I have a great Uncle I'm talking to who was in the Navy for 25 years. I've already taken a practice ASVAB test and I need to study as I'm not as good at math anymore. I also need to loose 5-10 lbs which should be easy to loose. I'm in the process of getting ready to sign up.
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Post by Dat Dude on Jun 8, 2013 23:46:33 GMT -5
Great to here, perhaps we'll cross paths in our travels. I tried Air Force first, but the recruiter said I was too old to join in time. They said they needed me in boot camp before I turned 28, and since delayed deployment takes several months I wasn't going to make it in time. But yeah if you can get into air force, go for it. My step-dad served in it and the army and he's always said that the air force work/lifestyle is by far the easiest and most rewarding. Are awaiting to go into bootcamp or are you in the process of signing up? It runs in the family here. Both my parents were in the Army and Mom's brother was in as well. I have a great Uncle I'm talking to who was in the Navy for 25 years. I've already taken a practice ASVAB test and I need to study as I'm not as good at math anymore. I also need to loose 5-10 lbs which should be easy to loose. I'm in the process of getting ready to sign up. One fact about the Practice ASVAB vs. the real ASVAB is that people usually score 10% hirer on the real one versus the practice one. For example I got a score of 60 on the practice one, but a score of 72 on the real one. As for math portion, I would brush up on how to add/subtract/multiply/simply fractions cause that's about as complex the math gets for the ASVAB test. Also the practice ASAB I took had zero science related questions, but the real test had a section dedicated to science so just be aware that they test for that as well (along with odd things like auto repair too). But even when being blindsided by the science section I got a 72 which qualifed me for a lot of technical related contracts. Although Air Force from what I heard may have higher requirements for math and sciences. I hope that helps and good luck to you as well.
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Post by Lila on Jun 9, 2013 12:12:42 GMT -5
The practice one I took was allot harder on the math side than the English side. Allot of algebra with calculating distance and conversions.
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Post by bob on Jun 9, 2013 23:17:27 GMT -5
Good luck man!
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jun 10, 2013 0:16:38 GMT -5
I can meet the 1.5 mile run time as well as the push-ups and sit-ups for my age group. you're in boot camp, so forget about age groups. remember 60-60-12 this applies to all aviation maintenance, even though it occurs the most in Prowlers which are finally going away (go ahead and suck on these lemons, Marines). it'll make a lot more sense once you're actually in a squadron:
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jun 10, 2013 1:41:30 GMT -5
I can meet the 1.5 mile run time as well as the push-ups and sit-ups for my age group. you're in boot camp, so forget about age groups. remember 60-60-12 That's not at all accurate. The age groupings exist for a reason, and passing will still result in graduation from boot camp. Telling him otherwise is an unnecessary additional stress that he doesn't need as he heads into what is already going to be a stressful environment. The RDCs will be hollering at him regardless of whether he's only meeting minimum standard or setting Navy records. You don't get accolades in boot camp, period, but that doesn't mean that you have to overdo things simply for the sake of overdoing them. If you can meet the standards for your age group, don't presume that you have to keep up with the 18 year olds. You won't get ASMO'd because you couldn't complete your run in 12 minutes, and, at least from what I observed, you won't even take any extra flack from your Recruit Division Commanders. Satisfactory completion is satisfactory completion, and even if you're unsat at week 7, you still won't be done with boot camp. You just get to go over to RCU-FIT for three extra weeks, and then, ONLY then, if you cannot complete your PFA to satisfactory completion will you be administratively separated (likely with an RE-3x code, meaning you can re-enlist in six months time assuming you can get past MEPS again and get any applicable waivers). That being said, you should definitely strive to improve your scores beyond minimum standard. Those scores can, and potentially will, be used in assessment for promotion and advancement down the road, so start setting your standard high EARLY. Honestly, everyone who got past week 3 of training said that the sustained runs and B.A.S.E.S. were more challenging than the PFA. I can't really relate because I was already running 4 miles a day and doing plenty of pushups/situps before my arrival. I'd hoped to stripe up via my baseline PFA and START Guide test, but alas...you don't stripe up when you get sent to Ship 05. Heh.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jun 10, 2013 1:46:06 GMT -5
you're in boot camp, so forget about age groups. remember 60-60-12 That's not at all accurate. The age groupings exist for a reason, and passing will still result in graduation from boot camp. Telling him otherwise is an unnecessary additional stress that he doesn't need as he heads into what is already going to be a stressful environment. If you can meet the standards for your age group, don't presume that you have to keep up with the 18 year olds. You won't get ASMO'd because you couldn't complete your run in 12 minutes, and, at least from what I observed, you won't even take any extra flack from your Recruit Division Commanders. Satisfactory completion is satisfactory completion, and even if you're unsat at week 7, you still won't be done with boot camp. You just get to go over to RCU-FIT for three extra weeks, and then, ONLY then, if you cannot complete your PFA to satisfactory completion will you be administratively separated (likely with an RE-3x code, meaning you can re-enlist in six months time assuming you can get past MEPS again and get any applicable waivers). That being said, you should definitely strive to improve your scores beyond minimum standard. Those scores can, and potentially will, be used in assessment for promotion and advancement down the road, so start setting your standard high EARLY. you've been to boot camp, you know the push 60-60-12. once you're out of boot camp, yes the age group comes into play more, but for boot camp focus on 60-60-12
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jun 10, 2013 2:40:16 GMT -5
That's not at all accurate. The age groupings exist for a reason, and passing will still result in graduation from boot camp. Telling him otherwise is an unnecessary additional stress that he doesn't need as he heads into what is already going to be a stressful environment. If you can meet the standards for your age group, don't presume that you have to keep up with the 18 year olds. You won't get ASMO'd because you couldn't complete your run in 12 minutes, and, at least from what I observed, you won't even take any extra flack from your Recruit Division Commanders. Satisfactory completion is satisfactory completion, and even if you're unsat at week 7, you still won't be done with boot camp. You just get to go over to RCU-FIT for three extra weeks, and then, ONLY then, if you cannot complete your PFA to satisfactory completion will you be administratively separated (likely with an RE-3x code, meaning you can re-enlist in six months time assuming you can get past MEPS again and get any applicable waivers). That being said, you should definitely strive to improve your scores beyond minimum standard. Those scores can, and potentially will, be used in assessment for promotion and advancement down the road, so start setting your standard high EARLY. you've been to boot camp, you know the push 60-60-12. once you're out of boot camp, yes the age group comes into play more, but for boot camp focus on 60-60-12 They pushed 60-60-12 because the majority of recruits fall with in the 17-19 or 20-24 age group. Statistically, that will result in it being discussed more often, but that doesn't mean a 28 year old recruit needs to adhere to that. Difference of opinion, I guess, or difference in how the RDCs did things when you were at RTC and when I was there.
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