BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Jul 8, 2013 3:51:22 GMT -5
People seem to conveniently forget that Hunico was botching even worse than Sin Cara did under the mask, while wrestling a style he clearly was uncomfortable with. And he only became this good when he adopted his own character and started wrestling his own way. Not to mention the Sin Cara gimmick is pretty limited. He has next to no backstory. Can't show facial expressions. Can't cut promos. And the crowd seems to be pretty apathetic to everything he does. I'm sure even the original Sin Cara doesn't want to be Sin Cara anymore. Wasn't there a time that people were surprised that Sin Cara was not botching at all during some matches and then we find out that it was actually Hunico wrestling that entire time? (Not to mention the different way he pointed at things but that's another issue.) No. I remember him still botching, and people blaming the original Sin Cara in the spoiler thread, because the reports failed to mention someone else was under the mask. In fact there have been times when Hunico was under the mask that they had to completely redo spots because they looked bad. And he had to cut out a lot of the originals moves because he was simply unable to do them. Plus notice that all these gifs are made after Hunico was unmasked. You never saw him doing anything cool like this as Sin Cara, aside from the Swanton.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 8, 2013 7:05:26 GMT -5
Thread really needed this.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Jul 8, 2013 8:21:32 GMT -5
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Jul 8, 2013 13:34:46 GMT -5
The last two pics are ace! I have a sudden urge to share loads of pics with you, my friends. You are my friends arnt you??? (^^^Left to right: Jeff Hardy, Austin, D'Lo, dont know but possibley Benoit or Al Snow?, dont know but possibly Edge?, Taz, Matt Hardy, Road Dogg, Kurt Angle) (^^^I hate the way the likes of Finlay has to smile just because he was a face at the time. He's meant to be an ass kicking bad ass ffs, why would he be smiling happily for a photographer like that when he would never do that before! I know, I know, Im preaching to the choir here and we've all discussed it before, this just seems like a prime example) This post may or may not have been brought to you by alcohol and cannabis.
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543Y2J
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Post by 543Y2J on Jul 8, 2013 13:50:03 GMT -5
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Post by PKO on Jul 8, 2013 13:53:59 GMT -5
People seem to conveniently forget that Hunico was botching even worse than Sin Cara did under the mask, while wrestling a style he clearly was uncomfortable with. And he only became this good when he adopted his own character and started wrestling his own way. Not to mention the Sin Cara gimmick is pretty limited. He has next to no backstory. Can't show facial expressions. Can't cut promos. And the crowd seems to be pretty apathetic to everything he does. I'm sure even the original Sin Cara doesn't want to be Sin Cara anymore. Wasn't there a time that people were surprised that Sin Cara was not botching at all during some matches and then we find out that it was actually Hunico wrestling that entire time? (Not to mention the different way he pointed at things but that's another issue.) Yes. Many people were saying he should replaced the real Sin Cara.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Jul 8, 2013 13:54:14 GMT -5
That RB hurt just looking at it.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Jul 8, 2013 14:04:18 GMT -5
Sin Cara's barely on TV, and barely developed. He's mainly there to sell masks to little kids at this point. Slowly changing up his style, and then eventually having him speak, wouldn't be too big a shock to the kids. And as long as Hunico begins to deliver in the ring, the smarks and IWC will forget it eventually. The man's already unmasked. Remasking would be against luchador rules. And if you're going to change the style, and make him speak, what's the point of making him Sin Cara? Just to sell a few masks? And Sin Cara's not even over anymore. Who's to say the masks would even sell. Basically there's no upside in reusing a failed gimmick. That's like taking Mark Henry and trying to repackage him as Lord Tensai. The rule is against re-wearing the same mask/gimmick. Rey got around that by taking up his uncle's gimmick, because technically it was Rey Misterio Jr that was unmasked, not Rey Mysterio. Sin Cara Negro was clearly made out to be a different person from Sin Cara (Azul) so I guess they could abuse that rule again also, I don't think WWE cares about that rule anymore, at one point, 'Berto went back to being masked as Dos Caras Jr when they went south, after doing the gimmick unmasked on the live tours before that
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DeathRay
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Post by DeathRay on Jul 8, 2013 14:10:56 GMT -5
The man's already unmasked. Remasking would be against luchador rules. And if you're going to change the style, and make him speak, what's the point of making him Sin Cara? Just to sell a few masks? And Sin Cara's not even over anymore. Who's to say the masks would even sell. Basically there's no upside in reusing a failed gimmick. That's like taking Mark Henry and trying to repackage him as Lord Tensai. The rule is against re-wearing the same mask/gimmick. Rey got around that by taking up his uncle's gimmick, because technically it was Rey Misterio Jr that was unmasked, not Rey Mysterio. Sin Cara Negro was clearly made out to be a different person from Sin Cara (Azul) so I guess they could abuse that rule again also, I don't think WWE cares about that rule anymore, at one point, 'Berto went back to being masked as Dos Caras Jr when they went south, after doing the gimmick unmasked on the live tours before that It's only illegal if you lose the mask in a match. Del Rio just took his mask off and got a new gimmick, he never really lost the mask.
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Jul 8, 2013 18:54:22 GMT -5
The rule is against re-wearing the same mask/gimmick. Rey got around that by taking up his uncle's gimmick, because technically it was Rey Misterio Jr that was unmasked, not Rey Mysterio. Sin Cara Negro was clearly made out to be a different person from Sin Cara (Azul) so I guess they could abuse that rule again also, I don't think WWE cares about that rule anymore, at one point, 'Berto went back to being masked as Dos Caras Jr when they went south, after doing the gimmick unmasked on the live tours before that It's only illegal if you lose the mask in a match. Del Rio just took his mask off and got a new gimmick, he never really lost the mask. Also of course it's all a work and WWE can do whatever they want and Im sure their employees will do whatever they're told if they want to keep a job, regardless of certain traditions.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 8, 2013 19:01:14 GMT -5
Maybe it's because Colt Cabana is dressed up as Dusty Rhodes, but I can't look at Kassius Ohno and not see "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan.
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Post by thetower52 on Jul 8, 2013 19:51:11 GMT -5
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Cronant
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Post by Cronant on Jul 8, 2013 20:47:07 GMT -5
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CH Punk
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Post by CH Punk on Jul 8, 2013 21:24:41 GMT -5
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Post by edgestar on Jul 8, 2013 22:09:29 GMT -5
I decided to make this after seeing Ryback be sensitive to Vickie.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Jul 8, 2013 22:49:13 GMT -5
I demand a gif of the camera panning to the McMahons faces during the job evaluation. Now.
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Post by DSR on Jul 8, 2013 22:49:58 GMT -5
He's a patriot, you know what I mean, and he gives his hate-filled speeech on the catwalk. Yeah, on the catwalk.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jul 8, 2013 22:56:57 GMT -5
He's a patriot, you know what I mean, and he gives his hate-filled speeech on the catwalk. Yeah, on the catwalk. He's too 'Murrican for this shirt, he's too 'Murrican it hurts?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 23:03:52 GMT -5
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Post by worldsstrongestman on Jul 8, 2013 23:10:35 GMT -5
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