Sektor
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Post by Sektor on Jul 29, 2013 14:21:09 GMT -5
I doubt that there's anything more to the story. All the important information is given right there. We should jump to conclusions without hearing what the police have to say. And we should hold this against the whole state, even if it's later proven that there was much more to the story. Or, for those outside the United States, hold it against the whole country. The people holding this against Florida are joking (for the most part), but what do you think is going to come out about this story? There's a witness saying he did nothing to provoke them. And you don't just shoot someone on suspicion that they're stealing something out of a car and/or the car itself. The people who rail against the police everytime there's a shooting in which someone is clearly armed and intends to do harm are ridiculous, but this is the most ridiculous time to give them the benefit of the doubt. |
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Post by h on Jul 29, 2013 15:00:59 GMT -5
I doubt that there's anything more to the story. All the important information is given right there. We should jump to conclusions without hearing what the police have to say. And we should hold this against the whole state, even if it's later proven that there was much more to the story. Or, for those outside the United States, hold it against the whole country. The people holding this against Florida are joking (for the most part), but what do you think is going to come out about this story? There's a witness saying he did nothing to provoke them. And you don't just shoot someone on suspicion that they're stealing something out of a car and/or the car itself. The people who rail against the police everytime there's a shooting in which someone is clearly armed and intends to do harm are ridiculous, but this is the most ridiculous time to give them the benefit of the doubt. We should jump to conclusions without hearing what the police have to say. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 29, 2013 15:54:25 GMT -5
The people holding this against Florida are joking (for the most part), but what do you think is going to come out about this story? There's a witness saying he did nothing to provoke them. And you don't just shoot someone on suspicion that they're stealing something out of a car and/or the car itself. The people who rail against the police everytime there's a shooting in which someone is clearly armed and intends to do harm are ridiculous, but this is the most ridiculous time to give them the benefit of the doubt. We should jump to conclusions without hearing what the police have to say. we know what they're gonna say, the same thing they always say in this situation. "We apologize to the man who was injured, but my deputies felt they were in a dangerous situation and acted accordingly. In the future, we hope to prevent any repeat of these events". |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jul 29, 2013 16:04:51 GMT -5
These cops should be put in jail but I'm sure they won't. F'ing ridiculous if you're a cop you can get away with just shooting anyone you want like you're above the law. If this was any of us we'd be in jail.
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Post by The Peoples Elbow on Jul 29, 2013 16:12:02 GMT -5
I'm so glad I moved away from there 3 years ago.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 29, 2013 16:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 16:44:15 GMT -5
The people holding this against Florida are joking (for the most part), but what do you think is going to come out about this story? There's a witness saying he did nothing to provoke them. And you don't just shoot someone on suspicion that they're stealing something out of a car and/or the car itself. The people who rail against the police everytime there's a shooting in which someone is clearly armed and intends to do harm are ridiculous, but this is the most ridiculous time to give them the benefit of the doubt. We should jump to conclusions without hearing what the police have to say. If the dude didn't have a gun there's no reason to shoot at him. Period. |
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Post by SOR on Jul 29, 2013 17:29:17 GMT -5
Surprise surprise. Knew there was more to the story then the guy peacefully giving himself up and getting shot. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 29, 2013 17:34:31 GMT -5
Surprise surprise. Knew there was more to the story then the guy peacefully giving himself up and getting shot. Yeah, cause that justified shooting at him 17 times.... Plus, since the cops asked him to turn around and put his hands up, and that is what the deputies are pretty much saying he did to deserve a bullet in the leg...... |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jul 29, 2013 17:36:10 GMT -5
Give the pigs the electric chair.
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Post by SOR on Jul 29, 2013 17:52:34 GMT -5
Surprise surprise. Knew there was more to the story then the guy peacefully giving himself up and getting shot. Yeah, cause that justified shooting at him 17 times.... Plus, since the cops asked him to turn around and put his hands up, and that is what the deputies are pretty much saying he did to deserve a bullet in the leg...... Obviously we weren't there and the entire situation plays out in everyone's head differently. But, if you're told to turn around and you refuse to do so and you turn and lunge at the Cops what's going to happen? If I'm a Cop I don't know if this dude is armed, if he has a weapon I'm probably opening fire on him also. The article says he had a metal flash light on his keys that could easily be seen as a pocket knife or blade if you're not close up. 17 bullets seems a bit excessive although again, We don't know why so many were fired. Maybe they missed and he kept coming at them. That's one part of the story we'll never know but I think the Police are justified in that situation to defend themselves with a bullet. All this could of been avoided if the guy just laid down, gave himself up and sorted everything out. |
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Post by Sektor on Jul 29, 2013 17:55:13 GMT -5
The sheriff said that's what the officers reported, which isn't the same as him saying that's what happened.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 29, 2013 17:58:50 GMT -5
Yeah, cause that justified shooting at him 17 times.... Plus, since the cops asked him to turn around and put his hands up, and that is what the deputies are pretty much saying he did to deserve a bullet in the leg...... Obviously we weren't there and the entire situation plays out in everyone's head differently. But, if you're told to turn around and you refuse to do so and you turn and lunge at the Cops what's going to happen? If I'm a Cop I don't know if this dude is armed, if he has a weapon I'm probably opening fire on him also. The article says he had a metal flash light on his keys that could easily be seen as a pocket knife or blade if you're not close up. 17 bullets seems a bit excessive although again, We don't know why so many were fired. Maybe they missed and he kept coming at them. That's one part of the story we'll never know but I think the Police are justified in that situation to defend themselves with a bullet. All this could of been avoided if the guy just laid down, gave himself up and sorted everything out. Why should a guy give himself up if he has not committed a crime? What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? Why should the first response for a deputy seeing something in a person's hand should be near emptying their guns (if they hold 10 each), and not anything like "put it down!" or using their own lights (since it was in the middle of the night) to see what it was? |
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Post by Lancers on Jul 29, 2013 18:20:22 GMT -5
The sheriff said that's what the officers reported, which isn't the same as him saying that's what happened. Exactly. Both sides can easily manipulate or embellish the details to justify the situation. Even if the truth lies somewhere in between, I'm sorry, pulling out a gun and shooting should be the very last thing law enforcement or anyone should do. Looks even worse when your target is unarmed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 18:24:03 GMT -5
I'm a smoker and one of my near neighbors is a cop. I'm f***ed
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Post by Jiren on Jul 29, 2013 18:32:46 GMT -5
These Anti-smoking campaigns are going too far now
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Post by Piccolo on Jul 29, 2013 19:04:11 GMT -5
Camcorders are very cheap nowadays. It would be beneficial to citizens and the police force if each encounter between law enforcement and the public was required to be filmed (an officer on hand could do the filming... stand far enough away to catch the actions and words of both the officers and the citizens). It would help ensure that everyone is on their best behavior, while providing a (reasonably) objective record of what occurred.
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Post by King Ghidorah on Jul 29, 2013 20:55:44 GMT -5
Yeah, cause that justified shooting at him 17 times.... Plus, since the cops asked him to turn around and put his hands up, and that is what the deputies are pretty much saying he did to deserve a bullet in the leg...... Obviously we weren't there and the entire situation plays out in everyone's head differently. But, if you're told to turn around and you refuse to do so and you turn and lunge at the Cops what's going to happen? If I'm a Cop I don't know if this dude is armed, if he has a weapon I'm probably opening fire on him also. The article says he had a metal flash light on his keys that could easily be seen as a pocket knife or blade if you're not close up. 17 bullets seems a bit excessive although again, We don't know why so many were fired. Maybe they missed and he kept coming at them. That's one part of the story we'll never know but I think the Police are justified in that situation to defend themselves with a bullet. All this could of been avoided if the guy just laid down, gave himself up and sorted everything out. You think this dude ran through 17 bullets and was kept alive? This cat ain't Morpheus. |
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jul 29, 2013 21:23:25 GMT -5
Yeah, cause that justified shooting at him 17 times.... Plus, since the cops asked him to turn around and put his hands up, and that is what the deputies are pretty much saying he did to deserve a bullet in the leg...... Obviously we weren't there and the entire situation plays out in everyone's head differently. But, if you're told to turn around and you refuse to do so and you turn and lunge at the Cops what's going to happen? If I'm a Cop I don't know if this dude is armed, if he has a weapon I'm probably opening fire on him also. The article says he had a metal flash light on his keys that could easily be seen as a pocket knife or blade if you're not close up. 17 bullets seems a bit excessive although again, We don't know why so many were fired. Maybe they missed and he kept coming at them. That's one part of the story we'll never know but I think the Police are justified in that situation to defend themselves with a bullet. I can certainly imagine police officers reporting that they made a mistake. And then that they made that mistake 16 more times... who wouldn't allow themselves to look negligent or incompetent at their job by reporting how they might have bungled procedure? But hooray for only a bit of excess. 17 surely isn't 18. That's one too many. Or had he been white, most likely. But let's be honest: cigarettes kill. So he was obviously trying to arm himself with an object that connotes lethal intent. |
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jul 30, 2013 11:26:59 GMT -5
f*** the police.
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