Heartbreaker
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Post by Heartbreaker on Aug 27, 2013 9:09:52 GMT -5
I loved it when it first aired, but I am confused on what the WWE were trying to accomplish. If it was getting AJ over as a face, it was a great first step. It is nice to see AJ changing up her character as crazy AJ was getting stale. But I still think it's hilarious when AJ marks talk about how great AJ is and that she is the best thing since Trish Stratus. There is a big difference here, Trish was in a much better division. Not only that, but AJ is the only diva booked to make you care(Kaitlyn had here cup of coffee in their fued). Everyone else is just an afterthought. This promo really couldn't have hit closer to home. It doesn't make AJ the greatest thing since sliced bread, it's just the way WWE presents her and everyone else. If they allowed Awesome Kong and Sara Del Rey to actually wrestle in the division, she would look just as outclassed as the others. 7 facts. 1. AJs program with Dolph Ziggler and Kaitlyn just had its blow-off match at Summerslam 2. Notice how Big E Langston wasn't anywhere near her 3. The content of the promo was seemingly substance vs. style which is the same theme as recent Daniel Bryan promos 4. Daniel Bryan and AJ Lee have undeniable chemistry together from their past pairing 5. Daniel Bryan is feuding with HHH 6. HHH is married to Stephanie 7. Stephanie and AJ have already had a somewhat recent promo where Stephanie was threatening to put AJ in her place. From this, I am sure you can guess which conclusion that I am drawing here. ...AJ and Bryan should have a Savage/Elizabeth style reunion but with the two of them YESing!
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 27, 2013 9:12:23 GMT -5
Da Bellas are two of the most useless performers ever in WWE TV. I'm guessing that's why Rosa Mendes was brought back. To make them look better by comparison. well that, and Michael Hayes was starting to look at Justin Gabriel in a very troubling way.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Aug 27, 2013 9:13:10 GMT -5
7 facts. 1. AJs program with Dolph Ziggler and Kaitlyn just had its blow-off match at Summerslam 2. Notice how Big E Langston wasn't anywhere near her 3. The content of the promo was seemingly substance vs. style which is the same theme as recent Daniel Bryan promos 4. Daniel Bryan and AJ Lee have undeniable chemistry together from their past pairing 5. Daniel Bryan is feuding with HHH 6. HHH is married to Stephanie 7. Stephanie and AJ have already had a somewhat recent promo where Stephanie was threatening to put AJ in her place. From this, I am sure you can guess which conclusion that I am drawing here. ...AJ and Bryan should have a Savage/Elizabeth style reunion but with the two of them YESing! I honestly think something like this is going to happen. They laid the groundwork for it.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 27, 2013 9:16:38 GMT -5
Just saw it. Great promo, have to feel there was some genuine feeling mixed in there. Don't think Nattie deserves to be lumped in there but, still, hell of a promo.
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Post by Cronant on Aug 27, 2013 9:16:48 GMT -5
...AJ and Bryan should have a Savage/Elizabeth style reunion but with the two of them YESing! I honestly think something like this is going to happen. They laid the groundwork for it. Yeah, I don't think Bryan is involved in this at all.
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Post by Abdullah on Aug 27, 2013 9:27:56 GMT -5
For everyone who is worried about the reality show being buried, they have been pushing the Total Divas as legit for more than two months now. Not one live audience has cared. No one in the Staples Center cared when Nattie and Brie fought; they were chanting for the commentary team. The people who watch Total Divas, for the most part, don't care about the cast as wrestlers... they just want to be amused. I'm glad WWE is finally acknowledging this.
AJ's amazing promo only validated what every live crowd has felt for the past two months at least and that's a big reason why they lapped it up.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Aug 27, 2013 9:38:08 GMT -5
7 facts. 1. AJs program with Dolph Ziggler and Kaitlyn just had its blow-off match at Summerslam 2. Notice how Big E Langston wasn't anywhere near her 3. The content of the promo was seemingly substance vs. style which is the same theme as recent Daniel Bryan promos 4. Daniel Bryan and AJ Lee have undeniable chemistry together from their past pairing 5. Daniel Bryan is feuding with HHH 6. HHH is married to Stephanie 7. Stephanie and AJ have already had a somewhat recent promo where Stephanie was threatening to put AJ in her place. From this, I am sure you can guess which conclusion that I am drawing here. ...AJ and Bryan should have a Savage/Elizabeth style reunion but with the two of them YESing! That would be pretty awesome actually, and I wouldn't care how many people here go "UGH".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 9:41:04 GMT -5
I loved it when it first aired, but I am confused on what the WWE were trying to accomplish. If it was getting AJ over as a face, it was a great first step. It is nice to see AJ changing up her character as crazy AJ was getting stale. But I still think it's hilarious when AJ marks talk about how great AJ is and that she is the best thing since Trish Stratus. There is a big difference here, Trish was in a much better division. Not only that, but AJ is the only diva booked to make you care(Kaitlyn had here cup of coffee in their fued). Everyone else is just an afterthought. This promo really couldn't have hit closer to home. It doesn't make AJ the greatest thing since sliced bread, it's just the way WWE presents her and everyone else. If they allowed Awesome Kong and Sara Del Rey to actually wrestle in the division, she would look just as outclassed as the others. I feel differently about this. Trish Stratus had a lot of women that could carry her to good matches, and it was done often enough that she got pretty good on her own. In this instance, AJ carried Kaitlyn to good matches, and if she wrestled any of them other than Natalya she'd be carrying them too. I think if AJ had Del Rey and Awesome Kong to work with, she'd be even better because she'd have people to learn from.
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Post by bob on Aug 27, 2013 9:58:35 GMT -5
I really liked it, but it doesn't really make sense because it sort of made her a face randomly. That said I'll see where this is going.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 10:00:34 GMT -5
I thought it was a great promo. AJ is pretty good on the mic and anytime a diva gets to actually talk is great imo. As far as the message, it doesn't really bother me, because AJ always acts superior to other Divas and as champion she should. It's just setting up a feud for the championship between her and one of the Total Divas women, I don't think she said anything that is going to actually ruin anyone. The Bellas were insufferable throughout the whole thing, but I've never liked them so that wasn't a surprise.
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Post by JTG Fan on Aug 27, 2013 10:04:39 GMT -5
Great promo, no real point other than to bury those sloots but whatever.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 27, 2013 10:18:40 GMT -5
Dates Punk: gains kayfabe breaking promo skills. Dates Ziggler: gains overselling skills. Dates Bryan: gain ability to invent new submission holds. She's like Kirby, except Kirby sucks others to gain their powers. ...Wait, well that make sense. I see it more as a Mega Man thing (dates them, after relationship is over gain the power)... ...but then we wouldn't have the innuendo.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 27, 2013 10:30:46 GMT -5
another thing is, AJ's a heel but so are the Bellas. from a kayfabe perspective there's nobody to root for.
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Post by CH Punk on Aug 27, 2013 10:52:27 GMT -5
another thing is, AJ's a heel but so are the Bellas. from a kayfabe perspective there's nobody to root for. It's Natalya, it has to be. Even people who loved the promo are quick to point out that she shouldn't have been lumped in with The Bellas/Funkadactyls/JoJo/Eva Marie, so that's the most logical opponent for AJ. In fact, the Raw Backstage Fallout had the Bellas talk about the meaningless match and Natalya talk about AJ's promo:
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Post by rybackrulez on Aug 27, 2013 10:55:22 GMT -5
All it did was make every single one of her possible contenders look useless and awful. Great? AJ being booked above the women's division continues I guess. No idea how they get themselves out of it though, If anyone is being booked above the division, it's the cast of Total Divas. AJ's the one hyping up the division by telling them how important the title is and how meaningless reality shows are compared to wrestling. And she's going out and having matches for the divas title, while the Bellas, Natalya, and Funckadactyls are more concerned with feuding with each other. She had a match with natalya two weeks ago, where she tapped to the sharpshooter. Then her and layla lost a tag match, that was actually a handicap match last week agAinst naomi. Then she needed layla's help to beat naomi on main event. Really all this divas booking just shows that everybody hates each other.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Aug 27, 2013 10:58:49 GMT -5
She was getting face pops throughout. she made valid points about a terrible division being on E television. Gotta say if this were Punk I would have cared. But I really cannot be bothered with this girl. I tried to like her I really did. She's just as useless as the rest of em,Except AJ's great in the ring, charismatic as all hell, exceptional on the mic, over with the crowd, and by pro wrestling standards -- she's damn-near Oscar-worthy as an actress. So clearly, she's not as "useless as the rest of them". As a character and in the ring -- AJ is on a level that only Trish Stratus, Mickie James, and to a degree Lita have been before. Alright, now I don't mind AJ, and I'll admit she's an ok actress, but Oscar level? Seriously? Hyperbole to the max right here.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Aug 27, 2013 11:16:17 GMT -5
She was getting face pops throughout. she made valid points about a terrible division being on E television. Gotta say if this were Punk I would have cared. But I really cannot be bothered with this girl. I tried to like her I really did. She's just as useless as the rest of em,Except AJ's great in the ring, charismatic as all hell, exceptional on the mic, over with the crowd, and by pro wrestling standards -- she's damn-near Oscar-worthy as an actress. So clearly, she's not as "useless as the rest of them". As a character and in the ring -- AJ is on a level that only Trish Stratus, Mickie James, and to a degree Lita have been before. To a degree Lita? Errrr...Lita was more over than both Lita and Trish.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 27, 2013 11:19:13 GMT -5
another thing is, AJ's a heel but so are the Bellas. from a kayfabe perspective there's nobody to root for. It's Natalya, it has to be. Even people who loved the promo are quick to point out that she shouldn't have been lumped in with The Bellas/ Funkadactyls/JoJo/Eva Marie, so that's the most logical opponent for AJ. In fact, the Raw Backstage Fallout had the Bellas talk about the meaningless match and Natalya talk about AJ's promo: The Funkadactyls don't really deserve to be lumped in either. And while she hasn't wrestled yet, Jojo at least has shown talent with her singing and doing a decent job as ring announcer.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 27, 2013 11:19:28 GMT -5
...AJ and Bryan should have a Savage/Elizabeth style reunion but with the two of them YESing! That would be pretty awesome actually, and I wouldn't care how many people here go "UGH". I admittedly am not an AJ fan..but that all started when she was GM. Honestly I was get excited for this reunion. It would be a feel good moment on par with that look Dreamer gives Beaulah at ONS 06 when they hug. And I'm serious.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Aug 27, 2013 11:48:20 GMT -5
Dates Punk: gains kayfabe breaking promo skills. Dates Ziggler: gains overselling skills. Dates Bryan: gain ability to invent new submission holds. She's like Kirby, except Kirby sucks others to gain their powers. ...Wait, well that make sense. What about Cena and Kane? From Kane, only thing i can think of is this: We have yet to see her use magical fire powers though. And Cena: hmm she doesn't have her own moves of doom or the ability to kick out of everything ever. But like others she's at the top of the Divas division.
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