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Post by wakko on Sept 9, 2014 9:06:27 GMT -5
Got me Bad Mojo redux for Steam. Love this mid 90s adventure game!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 9, 2014 9:08:47 GMT -5
Just bought Divinity: Original Sin a few days ago from Gog and it's off to a pretty darn good start. A possible contender for best Wife/Husband computer game ever. it's a decent game and the coop main story is great... but there is a part of the main quest that is infuriatingly difficult rather early on.
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Post by The Pixel on Sept 9, 2014 10:43:49 GMT -5
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Post by Psy on Sept 9, 2014 13:42:51 GMT -5
Just bought Divinity: Original Sin a few days ago from Gog and it's off to a pretty darn good start. A possible contender for best Wife/Husband computer game ever. My favorite significant-other co-op games thus far are Diablo 2 & Dungeon Defenders.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 15:46:28 GMT -5
New Humble Bundle is HIB 12. Pay what you want for Steamworld Dig, Hammerwatch and Gunpoint. Beat the average for Papers, Please, Luftruasers, Gone Home, and others to be announced next week. Pay $10+ for the Early Access game Prison Architect, and $65+ gets you the HIB 12 Entertainment System, which consists of a 30-page issue of HIB Informer Magazine, two lapel pins of the Humble Bundle logo and Arstotzka Crest from Papers, Please, a HIB 12 Super Shirt, a HIB 12 Shareware 3.5" floppy disk, the HIB 12 EP on vinyl and a collector's box for the entire package.
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Post by Psy on Sept 9, 2014 16:11:15 GMT -5
Not impressed by Steamworld Dig, the control scheme is a little subpar (yes, you can remap keys, but that's not the core problem here) and the gameplay is that of a Flash game one might play on Armorgames or some other free site. But then, I plopped down $1 just to try it and Hammerwatch... haven't tried Hammerwatch yet.
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Post by kevin on Sept 9, 2014 16:21:54 GMT -5
Not impressed by Steamworld Dig, the control scheme is a little subpar (yes, you can remap keys, but that's not the core problem here) and the gameplay is that of a Flash game one might play on Armorgames or some other free site. But then, I plopped down $1 just to try it and Hammerwatch... haven't tried Hammerwatch yet. It is a little to similar to Motherload which you can play for free, I still though it was a good game though short. For me the main problem is I beat it in about 6 hours and really see no reason to go back to it.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 9, 2014 18:33:15 GMT -5
Gunpoint and Papers Please are both f***ing awesome. Nothing better than diving through a window, leaping onto the ceiling and then dropping onto a guard as he rushes to investigate the window breakage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 14:29:58 GMT -5
So I just spend 65 bucks on that bundle, that shirt looks good and I collect vinyl so I thought why not
I gave a very big amount of that to gone home because it is awesome game and I want to see more releases from Fulbright.
I gave none of it to that prison game because I don't want to encourage the early access bullshit.
Will have doubles to giveaway when I redeem the games, so watch this thread
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 10, 2014 19:12:30 GMT -5
I gave none of it to that prison game because I don't want to encourage the early access bullshit.
Way to come off like a cockhead. Prison Architect has had 24 updates in a bit over a year and a half. Introversion have stated that it's early access because they aren't going to make it a full release until the game is completely finished. I mean, if it was Paranautical Activity or Towns in this bundle then yeah f*** those guys for cutting and running but Prison Architect is actively updating on a monthly basis now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 7:20:31 GMT -5
I gave none of it to that prison game because I don't want to encourage the early access bullshit.
Way to come off like a cockhead. Prison Architect has had 24 updates in a bit over a year and a half. Introversion have stated that it's early access because they aren't going to make it a full release until the game is completely finished. I mean, if it was Paranautical Activity or Towns in this bundle then yeah f*** those guys for cutting and running but Prison Architect is actively updating on a monthly basis now. I don't agree with paying to test a game, I don't care how many updates it gets, its a practice in the industry I don't agree with, not sure why that makes me come across as a cockhead. I understand it is something a lot of people have no issue with and to each their own, but it is something I refuse to support
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 11, 2014 7:28:58 GMT -5
It's fine to disagree, but try not to get into namecalling. That's never a good start.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 11, 2014 9:06:30 GMT -5
Way to come off like a cockhead. Prison Architect has had 24 updates in a bit over a year and a half. Introversion have stated that it's early access because they aren't going to make it a full release until the game is completely finished. I mean, if it was Paranautical Activity or Towns in this bundle then yeah f*** those guys for cutting and running but Prison Architect is actively updating on a monthly basis now. I don't agree with paying to test a game, I don't care how many updates it gets, its a practice in the industry I don't agree with, not sure why that makes me come across as a cockhead. I understand it is something a lot of people have no issue with and to each their own, but it is something I refuse to support So how is it a bad thing for you to support an independent company early on in development? The vast majority of early access titles are developed independently of publishers and with very small teams, for example Introversion Software numbers only 7 people. They made 270,000 thousand in two weeks when Prison Architect was first made available for pre-order which included access to the alpha. By December of 2013, they've made 9 million dollars which is enough to fund development of this and their next title. Free Lives are the developers of BroForce and they have only six guys and have been open about probably not being able to get the game into the state that it deserves if not for offering access to the alpha/beta as a bonus for preordering. But f*** those guys right? Making money by offering early access to games. Can you get burned by buying an early access title and it turns out to not be worthwhile or they just cut and run? Absolutely, but that's a risk with any type of software.
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 11, 2014 10:26:58 GMT -5
Sorry, people shouldn't have to pay to become an Alpha or Beta tester.
And unfortunately this is becoming more and more a common practice when it comes to games, especially with digital distribution. PA is the exception to the rule in most cases. Personally I want nothing to do with a paid beta or alpha test.
Want to drum up some money. There's plenty of other ways to do it. Thing is it's a copycat business and every where you look now it's "early access" on games.
Someone wants to get in on the ground floor and pay for a beta great. Certainly wouldn't condemn someone for not wanting to do it cause I sure as hell won't pay for it. I loved the first Wasteland when it came out. Reminded me of Gold Box D&D game smashed up with Mad Max. Was awesome at the time.
There's no way in hell I would pay 50 bucks to be a beta tester for a game, I don't care how much I want to play it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 11:44:27 GMT -5
I don't agree with paying to test a game, I don't care how many updates it gets, its a practice in the industry I don't agree with, not sure why that makes me come across as a cockhead. I understand it is something a lot of people have no issue with and to each their own, but it is something I refuse to support But f*** those guys right? Making money by offering early access to games. Can you get burned by buying an early access title and it turns out to not be worthwhile or they just cut and run? Absolutely, but that's a risk with any type of software. That's not strictly true, Early Access on Steam is a particularly frustrating topic because their terms mean games may never be in a finished state and those that have paid (usually for RRP which puts across the need for a finished title in price terms) are never promised a finished title. That's what the other posters here are saying, and it shouldn't require you to assume people are dicks for not putting faith in a system which is by and large a terrible mess. You don't get that with many other things on the 'net in games or otherwise (music/film projects have HELL to pay if they don't deliver a finished product within a short time period just before anyone brings that up). I understand people wanting to support the independent devs (I get paid by a few so yeah, I understand that a TON *shakes half empty wallet around*) but when I see the devs of Solarix or Tangiers or several other titles telling me they personally prefer to Kickstart as it guarantees they need to put out a finished product without forcing their backers into becoming alpha/beta testers, and that if they fail that backers can claim back their cash is better to me. It puts more responsibility on the devs to stick to developmental roadmaps -no game paid for should take years upon years to finish if it's an independent project with capable devs- and also gives the fans a guarantee that if the game is a mess/broken/released in an unfit state that they can claim their money back. It's very cool that a variety of projects have updated/kept things flowing in terms of improvements to their games within the Early Access system, but at the same time the notion of people paying to become testers is pretty dodgy. It also causes false praise and economic Stockholm Syndrome to start, 'I paid for this...and I've shoved 200 hours into a 50% finished game...it HAS to be great'. It's not so much a dig at independent developers as a whole as it is a dig at things such as standalone Day Z where inherent problems in the engine it's using means that game will NEVER be finished despite being in the top 5 purchased games on Steam all the time. It's a shame that for every one good team (in this case Introversion) there's a dozen shitty devs abusing the awful Steam terms for early access games, but with Introversion making 9 million for that one game...yeah, they're making a substantial profit which points out another massive issue in the early access things, if you're earning that much without a finished game then you shouldn't be allowed to charge for the title when it's finished. Or you should be reducing the cost of said game, when other finished/non-glitchy games on Steam struggle whilst an unfinished title is getting that much money it's a horrendous statement. "Why bother finishing, look at us!" I know the dev team doesn't mean to say that but that's the message it delivers: use the userbase who've paid for an unfinished game as your free testers, rake in profit, repeat for a few years.
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Post by kevin on Sept 11, 2014 12:43:56 GMT -5
One problem I have with Steam is I am almost addicted to buying games on sale. Did I want Banner Saga yes I have found it interesting since I first saw it on Steam months ago. Do I have time to play Banner saga right now no I do not. When I saw midweek sale Banner Saga for half off did I buy it without a second thought yes I did. Is it possible that I will never actually play it yes, yes it is as my never played copy of LA Norie ,for one example, can attest too.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Sept 11, 2014 13:07:32 GMT -5
Generally I've found 5 seconds of your time, (scrolling down on steam to hit the first couple reviews) and you're pretty safe with early access. Picked up a bunch of things thru it, and yet to be disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 14:25:36 GMT -5
So how is it a bad thing for you to support an independent company early on in development? The vast majority of early access titles are developed independently of publishers and with very small teams, for example Introversion Software numbers only 7 people. They made 270,000 thousand in two weeks when Prison Architect was first made available for pre-order which included access to the alpha. By December of 2013, they've made 9 million dollars which is enough to fund development of this and their next title. Free Lives are the developers of BroForce and they have only six guys and have been open about probably not being able to get the game into the state that it deserves if not for offering access to the alpha/beta as a bonus for preordering. But f*** those guys right? Making money by offering early access to games. Can you get burned by buying an early access title and it turns out to not be worthwhile or they just cut and run? Absolutely, but that's a risk with any type of software. So hang on, you're telling me I should feel sorry for this poor small development team, then you tell me in the same paragraph they've managed to raise 9 million dollars? I am not saying "f*** those guys" you are missing my point completely. I buy alot of games most from indie developers, I just payed $65 for this bundle, I know I get physical items as well, but like $45 is going to the game developers. The indie developers who have actually delivered a finished working product get a decent amount, some of the games in there I already own. One of them is getting a bigger chunk than the others because it is a game I enjoyed so much and want to see more from that particular studio The makers of Prison Architect knew how Humble Bundle worked when they put their game on it, people can chose what share of the money they get, I don't feel right paying to test an unfinished game and therefore decided not to give them any of the cut, I probably won't even play their game, I don't have much interest in it to be honest. If I do play it and get some enjoyment from it then when it gets released properly I have no issue buying it again, in fact I would feel bad about not giving them anything in this bundle and buy it for that reason. But I am not paying for an unfinished game. Don't worry though, I bet theres someone out there who doesn't want to support "gone home" so gave more to prison architect, so it will all balance out I don't appreciate a stranger on a wrestling forum criticising me and calling me a cockhead for choosing how to spend my own money lets use an analogy. Imagine you went to the dry cleaners, you dropped off 10 items, you go back there and they say "we've only had chance to clean 2 of them, give us the money for all 10 now and you can have the 2 we've done back and we'll send you photos and updates as we clean the rest of it, and nope sorry can't tell you when your other items will be done. but don't worry you're doing the right thing and helping support your friendly local neighbourhood dry cleaners". Most people would tell them where to go. I don't really agree with Kickstarter either on a personal level, but I do understand that a bit more, it's closer to preordering rather than paying to beta test a game and I've seen musicians utilise that for projects that would never get funding otherwise but I've also seen it get abused by musicians who could afford to fund the project themselves.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 11, 2014 14:33:27 GMT -5
I can't get enough Civ V lately. It's been my obsession since finally learning how to play Civ Rev on 360. Anybody else play? Any not-so-obvious mods you recommend?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 14:34:59 GMT -5
giveaway time:
Gone Home Papers Please
Also still have :
Hitman 2 Hitman Code 47
First come first served, quote me in this thread (Don't pm me) so others can see it has been claimed, I will then PM you. One per person with Papers Please and Gone Home, nobody wanted the two hitman games last time so anyone can take the two of those even if they claim gone home or papers please, otherwise I'll never get rid of them.
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