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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 22, 2015 9:52:41 GMT -5
^^^ And two only two likeable characters in the entire damn movie are: The Head Hunter Dude who I think was supposed to be the big bad guy but seems like a good guy. The dude that dies trying to save the idiots in the trailers. He doesn't abandon his asshole friends, he stares into the face of 2 T-Rexes and does his best to give them a minor case of indigestion. The only way to save that movie was if Sara/VinceVaughn died in the trailer scene, and Malcolm goes all RAMBO and kills a thousand dinosaurs by shooting from the hip 80's style. "Here's some chaos theory dinobitches!" *loads up a minigun with a backpack of ammo* "What killed the dinosaurs? Me."
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 22, 2015 9:58:58 GMT -5
^^^ And two only two likeable characters in the entire damn movie are: The Head Hunter Dude who I think was supposed to be the big bad guy but seems like a good guy. The dude that dies trying to save the idiots in the trailers. He doesn't abandon his asshole friends, he stares into the face of 2 T-Rexes and does his best to give them a minor case of indigestion. The only way to save that movie was if Sara/VinceVaughn died in the trailer scene, and Malcolm goes all RAMBO and kills a thousand dinosaurs by shooting from the hip 80's style. "Here's some chaos theory dinobitches!" *loads up a minigun with a backpack of ammo* "What killed the dinosaurs? Me." Grenade Launchers find a way.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jul 22, 2015 10:16:59 GMT -5
^^^ And two only two likeable characters in the entire damn movie are: The Head Hunter Dude who I think was supposed to be the big bad guy but seems like a good guy. The dude that dies trying to save the idiots in the trailers. He doesn't abandon his asshole friends, he stares into the face of 2 T-Rexes and does his best to give them a minor case of indigestion. The only way to save that movie was if Sara/VinceVaughn died in the trailer scene, and Malcolm goes all RAMBO and kills a thousand dinosaurs by shooting from the hip 80's style. "Here's some chaos theory dinobitches!" *loads up a minigun with a backpack of ammo* I always loved how the big game hunter "villain" was the most level-headed, loyal, intelligent, brave and likeable character in the whole movie. Really the only bad thing he does is want to shoot a T-Rex.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 22, 2015 14:35:47 GMT -5
I love Roland Tembo. Awesome character. In the deleted scenes, he's even more heroic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 14:55:34 GMT -5
So... I have to ask... what did everybody think of the Indominus rex? I find it funny (yet adorable) that it actually has a plush.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jul 22, 2015 14:57:26 GMT -5
I think the arms could have been shorter and the head a tad bit smaller. It looked kinda goofy. It wasn't bad, but it looked off.
The plushie looks way better.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 22, 2015 14:58:20 GMT -5
I want a plushie Bryce Dallas Howard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 15:00:20 GMT -5
I think the arms could have been shorter and the head a tad bit smaller. It looked kinda goofy. It wasn't bad, but it looked off. The plushie looks way better. From a cosmetic standpoint, I do agree, but from a storytelling standpoint, I think the point was that Indominus was the chop suey of genetics, because its creator wanted to throw as much crap (including cuttlefish) into its genetic construct. But, yeah, I do love the plushie.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jul 22, 2015 16:29:29 GMT -5
It actually isn't as bad after you add some time and distance. Shit, it is really pretty damn superior to Lost World in all honesty. Glad you mentioned TLW. Gives me an excuse to vent about it. I hate it. I really do. Hammond seemingly learned his lesson at the end of JP, but no, in the sequel he's right back to being an idiot, sending a team of unarmed people to an even more dangerous island. Why does he even need to send them at all? The movie gives no coherent reason. As best as I could tell, he wants them to take photographs and video footage of dinosaurs to protect the island. Why would he need to do that? Costa Rica own the island. He could simply have asked them to seal off both islands. Why do InGen need to capture dinosaurs from this island? Don't they have DNA samples of all their dinosaurs back in America? They did in the first JP book. Why bother capturing the animals? Why not just kill them and extract blood samples to breed new ones? That's what they've been doing anyway using amber supplies. Why does the second team have members who don't know what compies and raptors are? Why does Dietar walk a mile away from the camp for a piss? Couldn't he just go behind a tree. No need to be shy. Why does Carter think that sitting with headphones on playing loud music is a good idea on an island teeming with killer dinosaurs? The supposed "good guys" are even worse. Malcolm never bothered to verify his daughter's whereabouts before leaving for the island. No one checked the trailer before it was loaded onto boats. Sarah Harding carries around a jacket stained with baby Rex blood even after telling the dinosaur expert that they had incredible sense of smell and would track them beyond their territory. Nick is basically responsible for killing everyone. He sabotages the "bad guys" equipment which means they can't call for help. He removes BULLETS from a GUN, on an island filled with predatory dinosaurs. None of the bad guys bring BOATS, that might be useful as a means of escaping AN ISLAND! Oh and a girl kills a raptor using gymnastics. *sighs* The movie had its problems, but some of the ones you listed did not bother me at all. Why take the pictures? InGen wanted to bring the dinosaurs to the mainland. He wanted to demonstrate that it would be better if they were left on the island. Why capture the animals when you could grow new ones? Do you have any idea how long it would take to grow up a full grown animal that size? No way a corporation wants to wait another 15 years to profit off of the dinosaurs. Oh, and I only thought the girl stunned the raptor with gymnastics.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 22, 2015 16:51:59 GMT -5
Universal and Amblin Entertainment's Jurassic World has hit $1.522 billion at the global box office, eclipsing The Avengers ($1.520 billion) to become the No. 3 movie of all time behind and Avatar ($2.788 billion) and Titanic ($2.186 billion), not accounting for inflation.
Jurassic World, directed by Colin Treverrow, has earned $614.3 million domestically, becoming only the fourth film to ever cross $600 million. Its overseas haul is $907.3 million.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 22, 2015 17:25:53 GMT -5
Glad you mentioned TLW. Gives me an excuse to vent about it. I hate it. I really do. Hammond seemingly learned his lesson at the end of JP, but no, in the sequel he's right back to being an idiot, sending a team of unarmed people to an even more dangerous island. Why does he even need to send them at all? The movie gives no coherent reason. As best as I could tell, he wants them to take photographs and video footage of dinosaurs to protect the island. Why would he need to do that? Costa Rica own the island. He could simply have asked them to seal off both islands. Why do InGen need to capture dinosaurs from this island? Don't they have DNA samples of all their dinosaurs back in America? They did in the first JP book. Why bother capturing the animals? Why not just kill them and extract blood samples to breed new ones? That's what they've been doing anyway using amber supplies. Why does the second team have members who don't know what compies and raptors are? Why does Dietar walk a mile away from the camp for a piss? Couldn't he just go behind a tree. No need to be shy. Why does Carter think that sitting with headphones on playing loud music is a good idea on an island teeming with killer dinosaurs? The supposed "good guys" are even worse. Malcolm never bothered to verify his daughter's whereabouts before leaving for the island. No one checked the trailer before it was loaded onto boats. Sarah Harding carries around a jacket stained with baby Rex blood even after telling the dinosaur expert that they had incredible sense of smell and would track them beyond their territory. Nick is basically responsible for killing everyone. He sabotages the "bad guys" equipment which means they can't call for help. He removes BULLETS from a GUN, on an island filled with predatory dinosaurs. None of the bad guys bring BOATS, that might be useful as a means of escaping AN ISLAND! Oh and a girl kills a raptor using gymnastics. *sighs* The movie had its problems, but some of the ones you listed did not bother me at all. Why take the pictures? InGen wanted to bring the dinosaurs to the mainland. He wanted to demonstrate that it would be better if they were left on the island. Why capture the animals when you could grow new ones? Do you have any idea how long it would take to grow up a full grown animal that size? No way a corporation wants to wait another 15 years to profit off of the dinosaurs. Oh, and I only thought the girl stunned the raptor with gymnastics. - Pictures shouldn't really matter. Costa Rica knew they were breeding dinosaurs on both islands. That should have been enough - No reason why accelerated growth couldn't be used. - The raptor was impaled on a spike.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jul 22, 2015 17:42:18 GMT -5
The movie had its problems, but some of the ones you listed did not bother me at all. Why take the pictures? InGen wanted to bring the dinosaurs to the mainland. He wanted to demonstrate that it would be better if they were left on the island. Why capture the animals when you could grow new ones? Do you have any idea how long it would take to grow up a full grown animal that size? No way a corporation wants to wait another 15 years to profit off of the dinosaurs. Oh, and I only thought the girl stunned the raptor with gymnastics. - Pictures shouldn't really matter. Costa Rica knew they were breeding dinosaurs on both islands. That should have been enough - No reason why accelerated growth couldn't be used. - The raptor was impaled on a spike. 1) As I recall it was just to demonstrate that showing dinosaurs in a natural environment would be good enough. 2) Even accelerating growth can only happen so fast. Those animals are massive and even accelerating growth would take years. Growing too fast is devastating to the organism's fitness in its own right. 3) Don't remember that. I'll take your word for it since in order to dispute it I would need to watch the film again, and no one wants to do that.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 22, 2015 19:15:34 GMT -5
I love Roland Tembo. Awesome character. In the deleted scenes, he's even more heroic. I'd have gladly watched a Roland Tembo movie. Easily the best thing about that movie... Maybe the only good thing.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 22, 2015 19:16:03 GMT -5
- Pictures shouldn't really matter. Costa Rica knew they were breeding dinosaurs on both islands. That should have been enough - No reason why accelerated growth couldn't be used. - The raptor was impaled on a spike. 1) As I recall it was just to demonstrate that showing dinosaurs in a natural environment would be good enough. 2) Even accelerating growth can only happen so fast. Those animals are massive and even accelerating growth would take years. Growing too fast is devastating to the organism's fitness in its own right. 3) Don't remember that. I'll take your word for it since in order to dispute it I would need to watch the film again, and no one wants to do that. 1- Even if that's what he wanted, it didn't work. In Jurassic Park III, civilians were able to parasail near Isla Sorna and then fly to it completely unrestricted, simply by ignoring a quiet air traffic message to leave the area, which is never followed up on. 2- InGen don't really strike me as a company that cares too much about ethical issues relating to their animals or their well-being.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jul 22, 2015 21:01:17 GMT -5
1) As I recall it was just to demonstrate that showing dinosaurs in a natural environment would be good enough. 2) Even accelerating growth can only happen so fast. Those animals are massive and even accelerating growth would take years. Growing too fast is devastating to the organism's fitness in its own right. 3) Don't remember that. I'll take your word for it since in order to dispute it I would need to watch the film again, and no one wants to do that. 1- Even if that's what he wanted, it didn't work. In Jurassic Park III, civilians were able to parasail near Isla Sorna and then fly to it completely unrestricted, simply by ignoring a quiet air traffic message to leave the area, which is never followed up on. 2- InGen don't really strike me as a company that cares too much about ethical issues relating to their animals or their well-being. Yeah, none of Hammond's plans ever worked. There is a difference between well-being and flat out killing the animal. Grow too fast and you will kill the animal in short order.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 22, 2015 21:30:18 GMT -5
1- Even if that's what he wanted, it didn't work. In Jurassic Park III, civilians were able to parasail near Isla Sorna and then fly to it completely unrestricted, simply by ignoring a quiet air traffic message to leave the area, which is never followed up on. 2- InGen don't really strike me as a company that cares too much about ethical issues relating to their animals or their well-being. Yeah, none of Hammond's plans ever worked. There is a difference between well-being and flat out killing the animal. Grow too fast and you will kill the animal in short order. That could be the plot of the next film. That Wu breeds a new batch of dinosaurs for military purposes, but accelerates their growth too quickly and they all turn out to be vicious mutated monsters when their DNA begins to break down.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jul 22, 2015 22:22:32 GMT -5
My buddy and I are old time JP fans and started spitballing and turning WU in to a diabolic Dr. Claw style villain. And now I want it to be real.
We have it so Wu was in cahoots with weaponizing dinos from the start. That is why the dilophosaurs were way too small and could spit venom, things that went against fossil records. It could also explain why raptors were so damned big, but Grant, the raptor expert never says a word, so more likely they are just large in this universe, or the name was mixed with Utahraptor or Deinonychus. The question does arise as to why they bred and kept such a dangerous animal... Well, if they were meant to be weaponized...
Ok, to the Lost World, we skip at the moment and go to 3. Sometime between JP and 3, Wu has a secret lab built at Site B, probably underground. He continues his work and that is why we see the Spinosaurus in 3 but not 2 and also why the raptors change appearance.
As his work progresses, the theme park becomes a viable front. And then we get Jurassic World.
The fun/stupid part that is not even trying: Wu is actually a genetically altered raptor, thus all of his work on raptors. Maybe he is trying to recreate himself. Now to make it dumb, he is telepathic. That is why when Alan is sleeping on the plane in 3 he dreams of that raptor saying his name, it was Wu trying to warn him off in a Scooby-doo villain way, and also why the raptor is the new look that Grant has never seen.
Our shared insanity is a lot of fun.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 23, 2015 3:13:47 GMT -5
1) As I recall it was just to demonstrate that showing dinosaurs in a natural environment would be good enough. 2) Even accelerating growth can only happen so fast. Those animals are massive and even accelerating growth would take years. Growing too fast is devastating to the organism's fitness in its own right. 3) Don't remember that. I'll take your word for it since in order to dispute it I would need to watch the film again, and no one wants to do that. 1- Even if that's what he wanted, it didn't work. In Jurassic Park III, civilians were able to parasail near Isla Sorna and then fly to it completely unrestricted, simply by ignoring a quiet air traffic message to leave the area, which is never followed up on. 2- InGen don't really strike me as a company that cares too much about ethical issues relating to their animals or their well-being. As I recall the 3rd movie opens with the fact Isla Sorna is a restricted island. If it were followed up on, what do you want? A Jurassic Park movie filled with court scenes and diplomatic talks? The people in the boat got ate, the adult in the parasail was killed and the kid was on the island, there was no one to go after. I guess the resuce crew had special permission, but that's easy enough to get once you say it's a rescue mission, at least in a movie.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 23, 2015 3:46:43 GMT -5
1- Even if that's what he wanted, it didn't work. In Jurassic Park III, civilians were able to parasail near Isla Sorna and then fly to it completely unrestricted, simply by ignoring a quiet air traffic message to leave the area, which is never followed up on. 2- InGen don't really strike me as a company that cares too much about ethical issues relating to their animals or their well-being. As I recall the 3rd movie opens with the fact Isla Sorna is a restricted island. If it were followed up on, what do you want? A Jurassic Park movie filled with court scenes and diplomatic talks? The people in the boat got ate, the adult in the parasail was killed and the kid was on the island, there was no one to go after. I guess the resuce crew had special permission, but that's easy enough to get once you say it's a rescue mission, at least in a movie. By "followed on" I mean that after sending the Kirby's plane a warning message, the Costa Rican authorities never send anyone to investigate. The US military does eventually arrive at the end of the film, but that's because of the sat-phone call Grant made to Ellie Sattler. If the island is restricted, it's a redundant restriction if any civilian with a boat or a plane can get to it relatively easily.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 23, 2015 3:51:10 GMT -5
As I recall the 3rd movie opens with the fact Isla Sorna is a restricted island. If it were followed up on, what do you want? A Jurassic Park movie filled with court scenes and diplomatic talks? The people in the boat got ate, the adult in the parasail was killed and the kid was on the island, there was no one to go after. I guess the resuce crew had special permission, but that's easy enough to get once you say it's a rescue mission, at least in a movie. By "followed on" I mean that after sending the Kirby's plane a warning message, the Costa Rican authorities never send anyone to investigate. The US military does eventually arrive at the end of the film, but that's because of the sat-phone call Grant made to Ellie Sattler. If the island is restricted, it's a redundant restriction if any civilian with a boat or a plane can get to it relatively easily. Oh wait....spoiler. They ripped off the Lord of the Flies ending fair and square!
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