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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 15:13:42 GMT -5
WHO ARE YOU TO DOUBT DAN SEVERN He was no Salvatore Sincere.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 19, 2013 15:16:17 GMT -5
There was a bit less depth, but that helped because they could give people more focus. Look at WCW, they had a roster that was twice the size or something, but only a few got focus at any pont so it was harder for guys to get traction.
Kinda like now, someone will get a bit of focus for a month or 2, then go back into the mix while someone else gets TV time.
In an ideal world, the shows would be half midcard, half main event, but that's not likely to happen for an extended period.
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Post by Mesousa287793 on Sept 19, 2013 15:35:17 GMT -5
Maybe I mixed it with the titles? Maybe that's what I meant.
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Post by rawthentic on Sept 20, 2013 1:14:39 GMT -5
They did have a ppv every month though Iyh just got whacky subtitles I remember nothing ever happened at most IYH. Though there were a couple exceptions(Badd Blood, Final Four). They would make the big matchups but you can almost guarantee the world title wouldnt change hands or a major storyline wouldnt meet it's conclusion at IYH. It was pretty much a house show on PPV. I remember being absoloutely stunned when Stone Cold lost the title at Breakdown in the triple threat match with Taker and Kane. I think that was the first time the world title changed hands at IYH, though i could be wrong. Back then, while they had a PPV every month..it still all built up to Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam, and Survivor Series. Now it's pretty much WM as the standout show and anything can happen the other 11 months. Anyway, on the topic...the mid-card was awesome in the attitude era. Not really from an in ring standpoint but everybody stood out in some way...and everybody was over. Al Snow, Godfather..hell, even Gilberg could pop the crowd as well as just about anybody on the top of the card today. Also the amazing heat guys like Tiger Ali Singh and Stevie Richards could generate isnt really seen today as well.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 20, 2013 3:06:20 GMT -5
WWE really needs to go back to the Attitude Era way of booking its roster. Guys like D'Lo Brown, Godfather, Val Venis and Scotty 2 Hotty didn't have to be in the World Title picture to be relevant or credible. Even if their matches were short, the general fanbase didn't dismiss them as "jobbers".
Instead of trying to shove every moderately over person into the upper echelon or into programs with main event talent, just let them have solid midcard matches and feuds. Not everyone gets to be at the top level, but everyone should still be over, relevant and credible. They need to rethink the way they push talent. WWE needs to think less about half heartedly trying to create a bunch of Austin/Rock-level "stars", and more about putting on an entertaining show.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 20, 2013 3:41:23 GMT -5
The problem is lots of guys in the wwe see their lot in the midcard and stagnate because "why can't i get my shot."
Instead of, i will do my best work. f*** it if i don't get a push. I just want to be the best.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 20, 2013 6:36:01 GMT -5
That's a ridiculous thing to say. The midcarders in the Attitude Era may have been doing stupid shit, but they were at least doing SOMETHING other than 'losing streak' or 'I want that title!' and they were all over like rover.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Sept 20, 2013 6:43:59 GMT -5
Attitude Era had its fair share of faults but a pathetic mid card get the f*** out of here.
At least they did shit that got over.
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Post by willywonka666 on Sept 20, 2013 7:20:40 GMT -5
Not frontin, but my God, so much time has passed, that we have posters that weren't watching during the Attitude Era?
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Post by theryno665 on Sept 20, 2013 7:27:27 GMT -5
Not frontin, but my God, so much time has passed, that we have posters that weren't watching during the Attitude Era? It's been 15 years. I know it doesn't seem like it though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 8:13:53 GMT -5
No, it wasn't pathetic. It had Crash Holly and the Mean Street Posse.
It was glorious!
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 20, 2013 8:20:24 GMT -5
Not frontin, but my God, so much time has passed, that we have posters that weren't watching during the Attitude Era? Chances are we now have posters that weren't alive during the Attitude Era... They'd be pretty young, but I joined here at 16, so it's not impossible...
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Post by Chip on Sept 20, 2013 8:27:09 GMT -5
..... Who the hell have you been listening to? The length of the midcard matches were pathetic, unless they were on PPV. Even then a good majority of them ended in interference or DQ. If they tried to pull that booking in todays WWE people would be demanding refunds for shows they didn't even pay for.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 9:01:41 GMT -5
So I'm gathering by what's been said that the LOD vs. DOA feud was considered main-event level because there was no mid-card then. Gotcha.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 10:21:59 GMT -5
The midcard of the Attitude Era were very over and had interesting storylines and characters.
Today's micard is just as good if not better talent wise, it just doesn't have the above. A guy like Kofi Kingston or Wade Barrett feels so far below John Cena it's not even funny.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 20, 2013 11:09:20 GMT -5
I would say it is more like the 92 wwf
Cena is Hogan. Then you have orton as flair. Punk as Savage. Daniel Bryan as Sid justice.
Then you got the lower level guys like Ambrose as Bret, kofi as tito, ryback as Papa shango, etc...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 11:55:00 GMT -5
All this is doing is making me want to go back and watch Attitude Era midcard stuff.
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 20, 2013 13:56:55 GMT -5
You say this as if todays midcard is anything special.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Sept 20, 2013 17:21:09 GMT -5
It's kinda a matter of perspective. Back in the Attitude Era there were only about six main eventers in the WWF. The main eventers mainly worked programs with the main eventers, and the mid-carders basically worked programs amongst themselves. While this made the main eventers look like larger then life superstars, it made the mid-carders look like they were a tier below and couldn't hang with the guys on top.
Nowadays you have like 25 guys being cycled in and out of the main event picture on a monthly basis. It makes the mid-card look good because it makes it look like they could literally win the top prize at any moment, but it also has the habit of diminishing the specialness of the main eventers.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Sept 20, 2013 17:37:10 GMT -5
Not frontin, but my God, so much time has passed, that we have posters that weren't watching during the Attitude Era? It's been 15 years. I know it doesn't seem like it though. I may be in the minority, but I think it's well about time to move the "Attitude Era" to the (Wrest) of Wrestling section. 11-16 years ago is by no means "current." Sorry to sidetrack. Back to the Topic: The midcard in the Attitude had everything right in regards to talent, marketability, and everyone had something to do.
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