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Post by mrjl on Sept 20, 2013 20:27:17 GMT -5
Putting aside face and heel - I'm rooting for AJ. This is partially because she's the only diva with enough of a defined character to even be called a character and thus wins by default, and partially because Natalya literally said "You're just jealous that you are not a total diva!" which automatically makes the person who did not say that face by default. Which is, by far, the killing stroke of this whole thing. AJ rags on these chicks - one a Hart, another the best athlete of the Women's division - for only being in it to get their faces on TV. The Hart, who is about the only one who's getting mic time against her, rebuts with "LOL Total Divas" like a bint. Give me a reason to like anyone in this feud, WWE. I dare you. well, Totally Divas is why she's on TV so much right now |
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Sept 20, 2013 20:29:24 GMT -5
Which is, by far, the killing stroke of this whole thing. AJ rags on these chicks - one a Hart, another the best athlete of the Women's division - for only being in it to get their faces on TV. The Hart, who is about the only one who's getting mic time against her, rebuts with "LOL Total Divas" like a bint. Give me a reason to like anyone in this feud, WWE. I dare you. well, Totally Divas is why she's on TV so much right now Which in and of itself is bullshit. Natalya's one of the- no, the most technically gifted woman on the roster right now, and the only time she can get TV time is dancing with Khali, blowing ass or on a f***ing reality show. There is something seriously wrong with that. Or maybe I'm missing some silver lining, I don't know. |
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Sept 20, 2013 20:30:06 GMT -5
Wait I thought AJ was actually the legit face and not just in an internet nit picking kinda way. The Bellas were heels already and Natalya keeps talking about how AJ is jealous she's not on the show. The total divas have all let fame go their heads and AJ is trying to remind everyone that wrestling is what matters. Man, maybe it is too confusing! AJ jealous of the Total Divas. If AJ really were the face, she'd be content with being Divas Champion and being the best wrestler. It's not really meant to be a "wrestlers vs. models" thing or a "wrestling matters" thing. AJ thinks that because she IS the Divas Champion, the spotlight should be on her, and she begrudges the Total Divas' newfound exposure. Oh ok. I was mainly basing this on Natalya saying "you wish you were a total diva" or whatever on commentary. She came across pretty heelish. I know AJ was acting weird too though so whatever. I admit I've not been paying 100% attention to it all. |
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Post by Cry Baby on Sept 20, 2013 20:33:35 GMT -5
Wait I thought AJ was actually the legit face and not just in an internet nit picking kinda way. The Bellas were heels already and Natalya keeps talking about how AJ is jealous she's not on the show. The total divas have all let fame go their heads and AJ is trying to remind everyone that wrestling is what matters. Man, maybe it is too confusing! AJ jealous of the Total Divas. If AJ really were the face, she'd be content with being Divas Champion and being the best wrestler. It's not really meant to be a "wrestlers vs. models" thing or a "wrestling matters" thing. AJ thinks that because she IS the Divas Champion, the spotlight should be on her, and she begrudges the Total Divas' newfound exposure. Totally agree with this. I thought the idea behind it was that AJ was jealous of the attention the Total Divas girls were getting - that they should make a show about the Divas champion. It just so happens that a lot of fans agree with AJ, making her the de facto face, which I really dislike. I wish they'd have kept AJ out of all the Total Divas stuff. I love the show and as much as I agree with certain points regarding the "models vs wrestlers" business, I really wish they weren't going down this line - or at least, not potentially using Nattie as AJ's new bitch. Plus the way they're ganging up on AJ doesn't help. If a girl is picking on a whole group of girls, that's what is going to happen - regardless of whether or not said girl is a bitch. It just so happens that AJ is the poster girl for wrestling at the moment, so people are sticking up for her. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 20:49:25 GMT -5
I'm half hoping the TD divas win just so the crowd dumps on the whole thing and the message is once again sent to WWE management that people like wrestling.
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 20, 2013 20:55:11 GMT -5
AJ jealous of the Total Divas. If AJ really were the face, she'd be content with being Divas Champion and being the best wrestler. It's not really meant to be a "wrestlers vs. models" thing or a "wrestling matters" thing. AJ thinks that because she IS the Divas Champion, the spotlight should be on her, and she begrudges the Total Divas' newfound exposure. Oh ok. I was mainly basing this on Natalya saying "you wish you were a total diva" or whatever on commentary. She came across pretty heelish. I know AJ was acting weird too though so whatever. I admit I've not been paying 100% attention to it all. THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! |
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Sept 20, 2013 20:58:44 GMT -5
The opening promo was really cool and the best diva's promo in a long time. Everything they've done since has been trash.
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 20, 2013 21:13:42 GMT -5
The opening promo was really cool and the best diva's promo in a long time. Everything they've done since has been trash. I disagree. AJ completely out-shining WWE's commentators (especially Lawler) on RAW was great too. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 21:29:22 GMT -5
The responses here are pointing out exactly what I am talking about! Who is the heel and who is the face in this? Is AJ supposed to be an obnoxious and manipulative heel, or a face overcoming the odds? Are the Total Divas the narcissistic heels, or are they the role model faces? Is AJ after them because she wants to butt in, or is it because she wants them to get back to wrestling? This whole thing has been so poorly defined. And like I said originally, by having her go over every woman to get to Natalya aren't they killing off any potential future title feuds? They will have to rebuild each woman from the ground up to make them a credible threat to the champion again. They are just over-using AJ in this one. As soon as the program started, the whole division went tweener to me, so it's kind of "here they all are, with their good points and flaws, have at it, like who you want." But the announcers treat AJ as the undisputed heel, so it's not even working on that level. |
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Post by xCompackx on Sept 20, 2013 21:36:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm with the "AJ is the face here" crowd. It's really hard to make a heel out of someone who's completely right in their criticisms towards someone. Also, who the hell is going to watch this angle and think "I gotta see Total Divas!"? You're trashing your own show and you expect that to get viewers?
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 20, 2013 22:32:43 GMT -5
Wait I thought AJ was actually the legit face and not just in an internet nit picking kinda way. The Bellas were heels already and Natalya keeps talking about how AJ is jealous she's not on the show. The total divas have all let fame go their heads and AJ is trying to remind everyone that wrestling is what matters. Man, maybe it is too confusing! AJ jealous of the Total Divas. If AJ really were the face, she'd be content with being Divas Champion and being the best wrestler. It's not really meant to be a "wrestlers vs. models" thing or a "wrestling matters" thing. AJ thinks that because she IS the Divas Champion, the spotlight should be on her, and she begrudges the Total Divas' newfound exposure. Agreed completely. Seriously people, it's not nearly as complicated as you all think it is. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 20, 2013 22:45:23 GMT -5
Putting aside face and heel - I'm rooting for AJ. This is partially because she's the only diva with enough of a defined character to even be called a character and thus wins by default, and partially because Natalya literally said "You're just jealous that you are not a total diva!" which automatically makes the person who did not say that face by default. To be fair, that's only because AJ's the only Diva that WWE has bothered to put any real effort into. Imagine if there was a "Total Superstars" with the male superstars starring the Major Bros., Justin Gabriel, Alex Riley, Prime Time Players + random Adrian Neville and Oliver Grey, and for some random reason, someone like Fandango, Curtis Axel (I know you want to laugh at this) or Ambrose came out and shit all over it. |
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Post by frogsplash45 on Sept 20, 2013 23:48:54 GMT -5
I just miss Kaitlyn.
Though I'm glad she's not involved in this nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 23:49:29 GMT -5
I'm enjoying the program so far.
But, I am rooting for AJ in all this.
It was similar to Punk vs Hardy in 09. Hardy was supposed to be the face, but I was rooting for Punk AND. IT. WAS. EPIC.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Sept 20, 2013 23:56:20 GMT -5
I think AJ would be better served if she was a part of the whole Corporation angle. If only to see her beat the crap out of Stephanie McMahon.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Sept 20, 2013 23:57:12 GMT -5
Putting aside face and heel - I'm rooting for AJ. This is partially because she's the only diva with enough of a defined character to even be called a character and thus wins by default, and partially because Natalya literally said "You're just jealous that you are not a total diva!" which automatically makes the person who did not say that face by default. To be fair, that's only because AJ's the only Diva that WWE has bothered to put any real effort into. Imagine if there was a "Total Superstars" with the male superstars starring the Major Bros., Justin Gabriel, Alex Riley, Prime Time Players + random Adrian Neville and Oliver Grey, and for some random reason, someone like Fandango, Curtis Axel (I know you want to laugh at this) or Ambrose came out and shit all over it. Oh yeah, I agree. It's bizarre booking. It's hard to book any of the divas as sympathetic faces because they literally were never given any character to begin with, so we can't sympathize with anything at all. I wouldn't say it's their fault or whatever, but as things stand the setup they gave just makes it pretty hard to side with anyone but AJ based on the others never having had their characters developed before. Although, I must say that I would automatically side with absolutely any NXT face I have never heard of (except for Bo Dallas) over Axel on virtue of Axel being Axel. |
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Post by Reflecto on Sept 21, 2013 0:01:52 GMT -5
Don't forget the other fact that, if the Total Divas "are" supposed to be the faces in the feud, then you have where the kayfabe-to-reality gets too blurred. We're supposed to boo AJ for being a bitch, in-character on WWE TV, to the heroic Total Divas, who gang up on her, and are huge heroines for being on the show "Total Divas"- which, like most reality shows, makes everyone on the show look as unlikable as AJ's onscreen character is...but this is why we're supposed to 'cheer' for them onscreen?
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Sept 21, 2013 0:04:24 GMT -5
I would say the real problem is that its hard not to cheer for A.J when you consider that out of the all the Diva she is by far the one that most of audience both men and women alike can relate to.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 21, 2013 0:08:11 GMT -5
Don't forget the other fact that, if the Total Divas "are" supposed to be the faces in the feud, then you have where the kayfabe-to-reality gets too blurred. We're supposed to boo AJ for being a bitch, in-character on WWE TV, to the heroic Total Divas, who gang up on her, and are huge heroines for being on the show "Total Divas"- which, like most reality shows, makes everyone on the show look as unlikable as AJ's onscreen character is...but this is why we're supposed to 'cheer' for them onscreen? Even though the Total Divas are "unlikable", I think that's the reason we're supposed to cheer for the Total Divas. Since onscreen heel characters tend to get cheered because the fans are amused by their heel antics, WWE is applying that same logic to the Total Divas. Personally, I absolutely LOVE Cameron/Ariane just because of her Total Divas antics. |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 21, 2013 0:12:19 GMT -5
I'm waiting for the day Cameron destroys AJ with a "Girl, Bye."
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