Is Alan Harper the most pathetic Tv Character ever?

[Bootista]

I mean, He's living in his dead brother's house still and mooching off Walden the same way he mooched off Charlie.

[EvenBaldobombHasAJob]

he's up there, but he's no Al Bundy or George Costanza

[Dave the Dave]

He's way more pathetic than George

[Heartbreaker]

"Hi, I'm George. I'm unemployed and live with my parents."

[Some Guy]

I've never actually watched more than one episode of Two and a Half Men, but he doesn't compare to Ziggy in The Wire.

[bob]

who are you to doubt Bill Dauterive and George Castanza?

[Porky's Butthole]

Al Bundy is NOT pathetic. He's a bad ass. Never, EVER say he's pathetic again.

[Mozenrath]

Oct 11, 2013 21:55:46 GMT -5 Porky's Butthole said:

Al Bundy is NOT pathetic. He's a bad ass. Never, EVER say he's pathetic again.

He certainly ends up in shitty situations, but I would say he manages to not be pathetic because he doesn't give up, and has a lot of moments where he rises to the occasion or gets his day. Alan never really gets either, which is part of why I could never get into the show, no one on there is worth rooting for.

[BlackoutCreature]

The thing about Al Bundy is that based on the rules of the world he lives in, even if he did try to improve his life, the universe would just shut him down anyways. He's not pathetic as much as he's just a guy resigned to his faith of living a really crappy life and dealing with it as best he can.

With Alan Harper and George Costanza, it isn't that the universe is against them as much as they're their own worst enemies. If they put as much effort into things as Al Bundy did at times they'd probably be billionaires spending their nights partying with super-models on private yachts in the Caribbean. That being said, considering some of the insanely hot women they've both had sex with, it is hard to call them completely pathetic.

[Deleted]

Alan is the biggest douche bag on TV

[Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster]

He is up there but nah.

[Deleted]

Alan is the worst person ever. Seriously, over a decade, how much good shit has come his way and how many times has he managed to mess it up? What a douche.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

[Mozenrath]

Oct 12, 2013 6:16:13 GMT -5 @robvancam said:

Alan is the worst person ever. Seriously, over a decade, how much good shit has come his way and how many times has he managed to mess it up? What a douche.

Charlie was scarcely any better. I guess he is dead now, at least.

[Deleted]

Dude is a whiny bitch.

[Porky's Butthole]

I wouldn't piss in Alan Harper's mouth if his teeth were on fire.

[Injustice45]

He seems incapable of finding a place to live on his own. Alimony really hampered Alan's chances of having plenty of cash. After ten years, he's still living in his brother's place.

Jake is nearly as pathetic as Alan. He's a big doofus.

[trollrogue]

To be honest I'm glad a character like him is on TV getting hammered as the butt of the joke every week because there's a lot of guys I know personally that are just as pathetic as him, but blame their problems on Obama/The Universe/anybody-but-themselves.

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Oct 12, 2013 6:16:13 GMT -5 @robvancam said:

Alan is the worst person ever. Seriously, over a decade, how much good shit has come his way and how many times has he managed to mess it up? What a douche.

For the first couple of seasons, he was a sympathetic character, particularly when it seemed that Charlie was screwing him over just because he wanted sex or was sadistic. It was when he marries Kandi that you lose all sympathy for him and he ventures into becoming an unlikable d-bag. If there's an actor that's going to be pigeonholed as a complete loser due to one of his roles, it's Jon Cryer, fair or unfair.

And, I think the alimony angle has been forgotten since Judith remarried and Kandi is a high-paying actress on a TV show, so they now just play up Alan as being a cheap bastard.

[Munkie91087]

would like a word.