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Post by rydndirty on Oct 11, 2013 22:34:43 GMT -5
Bob Holly. The man Main Evented Royal Rumble against Brock Lesnar in a title match. How? How did this happen? The only reason he got that match was because he sandbagged Brock and Brock broke his neck, he was just someone for Brock to kick ass on without having to free up a top guy. My guess is that he got the push because he was the stooge for Vince in the locker room.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 11, 2013 22:41:00 GMT -5
The only reason he got that match was because he sandbagged Brock and Brock broke his neck, he was just someone for Brock to kick ass on without having to free up a top guy. My guess is that he got the push because he was the stooge for Vince in the locker room. It wasn't really a push. It was a 7 min filler match cause they didn't want to waste a fresh match-up with Brock on a 1 month feud. Bobcore even mention in his book that he got a really shitty paycheck for the match so obviously the wwe didn't think much of him.
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Post by cabbageboy on Oct 11, 2013 22:43:59 GMT -5
Yeah a lot of the guys mentioned in the initial post are easy punching bags. I'll say this much about Konnan though: He had some semi decent lucha moves for a heavyweight wrestler at a time when that wasn't typical. The main part about Jarrett's success that is odd to me is that he isn't a natural heel at all. He's way too much of a southern good old boy to ever be hate worthy.
I gotta second the HHH mention though. Of all the guys whose success on a grand scale is truly mystifying, it has to be Hunter. Let's face it, HHH was insanely dull for most of the 1995-97 period before he was in DX. He had little charisma and no real offensive moves beyond knee based stuff. Even during the DX days I never saw anything remotely main event level about him, nor did I for most of 1999 when he first got a serious singles push. To me he's never really had "it," whatever "it" may be. HHH is the epitome of the case where if a guy tries his damnedest long enough and has insanely over stars willing to put him over (Foley, Rock, even Austin) then people will eventually buy into him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 22:48:25 GMT -5
In Konnan's defense he was huge in Mexico which is how he ended up in America. He was the man.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 11, 2013 22:49:12 GMT -5
Batista
Never got the appeal at all. A roided up, douchy, meathead with limited wrestling ability, mediocre at best promo skills and nothing appealing at all yet he was one of the top faces for years. I admit I did enjoy his heel run though.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 11, 2013 22:58:39 GMT -5
In Konnan's defense he was huge in Mexico which is how he ended up in America. He was the man. And if anyone wants to see this, it was on great display at Triple Mania 1993, where Konnan fought Cien Caras in a career match.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Oct 11, 2013 22:58:56 GMT -5
Mr. Kennedy Kennedy
Shit in the ring and lame on the mic. He only got over, because a lot like Daniel Bryan, he had an easy catchphrase that people could sing along with. The difference is, at least Bryan can put on an entertaining match.
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Post by rybackrulez on Oct 11, 2013 23:08:49 GMT -5
Not a popular opinion but to me Konnan and Double J represent the very best of what it is to be a pro wrestler. So passionate in their work and such defined characters. I'd trade 10 Dolph Zigglers for one of either of them. I like both more than ziggler. Ziggler is where he should be honestly.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Oct 11, 2013 23:30:43 GMT -5
Although I see it now, at first I had absolutely no idea how Big E got so ridiculously over on NXT.
In reverse, I don't get the hate for Sin Cara. Especially people who rip on him for slightly catching the rope in his debut. How about one of you stretches some shiny pantyhose over your head, then tries to trampoline over a bar while I set off an explosion behind you?
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Oct 12, 2013 0:11:33 GMT -5
#1 Konnan - I never understood what anyone saw in this guy. He sucked on the mic, he looked like an idiot, and his in ring work was pedestrian at best. I'll give that he had at least a little bit of charisma, but so what? I always questioned what got him where he was when WCW was at its peak. Its not a shocker he never got invited to the WWE.Point taken, but my statement was obviously intended to mean after WCW folded.
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Post by mybraveface on Oct 12, 2013 0:20:56 GMT -5
Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Frankly, all he had was the "HOOO!" Very limited ability in the ring and on the mic, plus a pretty dumb gimmick if you ask me (a cross-eyed patriot that carries a long block of wood. Ok....), yet he was OVER at the time.
Seems like a good guy though, but otherwise, never understood his appeal.
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Post by Germansuplex on Oct 12, 2013 0:51:28 GMT -5
Batista Never got the appeal at all. A roided up, douchy, meathead with limited wrestling ability, mediocre at best promo skills and nothing appealing at all yet he was one of the top faces for years. I admit I did enjoy his heel run though. This.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 12, 2013 0:56:40 GMT -5
Batista Never got the appeal at all. A roided up, douchy, meathead with limited wrestling ability, mediocre at best promo skills and nothing appealing at all yet he was one of the top faces for years. I admit I did enjoy his heel run though. This. Thirded. Even though Batista was a top star, I tend to feel that if it wasn't for the Photoshops, basketball jokes, and Batista just being a walking meme in general, I wouldn't remember him very much.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Oct 12, 2013 1:09:40 GMT -5
How about one of you stretches some shiny pantyhose over your head, then tries to trampoline over a bar while I set off an explosion behind you? Sounds like the gimmick Kassius Ohno was born to play.
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Post by Raskovnik on Oct 12, 2013 1:25:28 GMT -5
Ambrose. He's only going to be more and more successful and I just don't get it at all. Nothing special in the ring, nothing special on the mic, and those ridiculous expressions. I will take some comfort in the fact that he is succumbing to male pattern baldness.
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Post by They Killed the Giggler on Oct 12, 2013 1:26:39 GMT -5
Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Frankly, all he had was the "HOOO!" Very limited ability in the ring and on the mic, plus a pretty dumb gimmick if you ask me (a cross-eyed patriot that carries a long block of wood. Ok....), yet he was OVER at the time. Seems like a good guy though, but otherwise, never understood his appeal. It's fun to yell "HOOO!" if you pick up a 2x4. I think he was popular because his yell and his "U.S.A" chant were fun for the crowd. He was so goofy it was hard not to like him.
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Post by Juice on Oct 12, 2013 1:37:04 GMT -5
In the modern roster Alex Riley. People on here claim he is over, but if a tree falls in the woods and no one is watching the internet show it happens at, does it really make a sound? When he was featured on tv I liked his music. People popped for that song, not the wrestler.
AJ Lee imo is a terrible actor who only seems in decent in comparison to even more wretched women in the roster. Yeah, it's cool that a life long fan and mark is living the dream. Beyond that couldn't give two f***s about her terrible acting or matches.
Shelton Benjamin was a black hole if charisma. He was good for a spot or two, but really never found him any good.
Elijah Burke, not until late into his run as the Pope did I really get into him and it didn't last long. He is one dimensional.
Titus O'neil is the greenest and most awkward guy in the wwe ring right now. David Otunga looks like Macho Man in comparison to this guy, yet people like the bg confused, lost and lumbering guy.
Ones we all may agree on are Curtis Axel, Bobby Lashley, Del Rio, and Ted jr
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Oct 12, 2013 1:41:06 GMT -5
Viscera, Mabel, Men On A Mission. how did this guy get that far? okay he didn't hold any important titles, but still...way too long of a WWE career. at least Holly had some talent and could be used to put over new talent, but Viscera was useless
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Oct 12, 2013 1:42:18 GMT -5
The Great Khali.
Let's face it, his size is the only thing that has kept him around for as long as he has, If he had been your average sized dude he would have been out of that door along time ago.
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Post by metylerca on Oct 12, 2013 1:44:30 GMT -5
Kennedy Trevor Murdoch and Lance Cade Chavo (especially when he was ECW champ)
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