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Post by Gerard Gerard on Oct 24, 2013 6:17:37 GMT -5
They are probably big into UFC today. You hit on a brilliant point, how UFC matches, well the big ones, are promoted more in line with how top-level NWA feuds were booked in the mid-80s. There's plenty of drama, but the emphasis always comes down to the 'sport'. Granted, that's where they distinguish, but it's a theory that holds some water.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Oct 24, 2013 6:19:09 GMT -5
They're all...down there...with Eddie...
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Post by ICBM on Oct 24, 2013 7:51:52 GMT -5
I tried WWE for a few yrs, then TNA got traction on spike and WWE just ran in place so I dropped them. Eventually tna couldn't keep my attention and now I'm off wrestling
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Post by Smiley Smile on Oct 24, 2013 10:20:40 GMT -5
For me, as a fan of both the WWF and WCW, the demise of the latter kind of killed wrestling for me. A lot of my favourite WCW people had disappeared from TV, and the dreadful Invasion angle and the subsequent monopoly the WWF had on TV stopped it being exciting, there was no spark anymore. For me, the end of WCW was the worst thing to happen to pro wrestling and all but destroyed my interest in it until years later.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Oct 24, 2013 10:24:57 GMT -5
Speaking personally, I stopped watching for quite a while after they went under. Eventually I realized that I love wrestling too much to quit cold turkey, so I just held my nose and watched WWE. While I continue to do that, I also discovered PWG and Chikara a few years back, so those have been my new wrestling 'loves'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 9:04:10 GMT -5
Look here is the thing. There were 2 types of wrestling fans back then. Firstly the people who loved sports entertainment and the other fans who loved wrestling matches. SE fans were WWF while Wrestling fans were WCW. When Russo joined WCW which was overcrowded with old wrestlers who couldn't wrestle, he tried to turn WCW into a SE company. The WCW Fans, myself included were horrified. We didn't want to see backstage crap, we wanted the matches. But Russo still argues to this day that if a headlock was applied we would change the channel. That is WWF BS. So he killed WCW When WCW was gone, we didn't have any pro wrestling to watch. WWF wasn't going to help us there, just more SE crap that we didn't want to see in the first place. When two wrestlers are in the ring, the last thing I want to see is a mic in their hands. Wrestle a damn match! So most fans accepted that wrestling was dead and moved onto MMA and other things. Bingo, they wanted WRESTLING. And while they may have liked guys like Austin & the Rock, they were devoutly loyal to the WCW product. So, a lot of them just gave up and found something else to occupy their time. Now, if there's a local indy show, they will go to that, because they are - deep-down - wrestling fans. They end up going to shows and they're like the guys I chat with at the Civic Center; guys who remember when "wrestling was great" (ie: Dick the Bruiser, etc.). But they go to a WWE show because it's something. But as far as TV watching, there's other things to watch on Monday nights, like football.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 9:11:42 GMT -5
Saw this in the Observers thread, sounded like something people here would be interested in...
That explains a bit: a buncha former WCW fans, and even WWF fans at the time, probably didn't even have access to RAW when WCW died.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 28, 2013 11:40:31 GMT -5
Like even a lot of WWE fans post say 2001, a lot of just left.
UFC coulda been a poll option, cuz some went there. A lot of fans watch both, but a good number transitioned to MMA.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Oct 28, 2013 12:51:58 GMT -5
WCW is what got me started on wrestling. I probably started watching in like early/mid 1997 and I fell in love with it. Towards the end of the year I started watching both WCW and WWF. I maintained that for about two years, bouncing back and forth between channels while they were on. Then in 1999 WCW started getting significantly worse and I started losing interest in it, watching mostly WWF and only bouncing over to WCW every so often.
By the time 2000 rolled around I was exclusively watching WWF. And sometime over the course of that year I stopped watching altogether. Didn't start watching again until around 2002, and I've been either watching, or keeping up with what's happening online when I can't watch.
There was a brief break in there when I stopped watching due to HLA, because I just found it insanely offensive. Still do.
EDIT: I also started watching TNA when they were still doing weekly PPVs. My friend and I would get them nearly every week and they were a good time. Got super excited when they got their show on FSN. Got even more excited when they moved to Spike. Then uh...things happened. Needless to say I haven't been watching for the past few years. I wanna like them so bad, I really, truly do. But man...I just can't.
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Post by bob on Oct 28, 2013 12:59:20 GMT -5
if I had to guess some of them stuck with WWF to see what would happen to WCW after Vince bought it and when it became appearant that the invasion was going to be super one sided they stopped watching
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 13:00:14 GMT -5
Turns out most of them weren't actually wrestling fans.
SWERVE!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 13:13:09 GMT -5
I think that another part of it is that a lot of the same fans made up both the Hulkamania era and Attitude/Monday Night Wars era. We were kids when Hulkamania was running wild and then as we got older Hulk and wrestling in general became lame so a lot of us tuned out, then suddenly Hulk turned heel and wrestling was cool again so we tuned back in. Meanwhile towards 98-01 the WWF and some of WCW's own wrestlers were telling us that WCW sucked and as it progressively became worse/more WWF like a lot of the old school NWA/WCW fans that had been watching for decades gave up on it. The WWE seems to be trying to capture the next wave of young fans now, but there are so many other entertainment options and it's so easy to pick through Raw and only watch the parts that interest you these days that I can't imagine that wrestling is capturing the imagination like it did for previous generations. Wrestling as a whole is on a downward spiral, I imagine that it will always be around in some form or another but I don't really foresee it ever greatly expanding it's fanbase again. The sale of WCW to the WWE was the culmination of Vince's territorial conquest and like Alexander the Great once there were no more lands to conquer there's nothing remaining to be done other than to go into a holding pattern trying to govern his conquests until inevitably his successors lose control of the kingdom.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Oct 28, 2013 23:19:10 GMT -5
I think that another part of it is that a lot of the same fans made up both the Hulkamania era and Attitude/Monday Night Wars era. We were kids when Hulkamania was running wild and then as we got older Hulk and wrestling in general became lame so a lot of us tuned out, then suddenly Hulk turned heel and wrestling was cool again so we tuned back in. Meanwhile towards 98-01 the WWF and some of WCW's own wrestlers were telling us that WCW sucked and as it progressively became worse/more WWF like a lot of the old school NWA/WCW fans that had been watching for decades gave up on it. The WWE seems to be trying to capture the next wave of young fans now, but there are so many other entertainment options and it's so easy to pick through Raw and only watch the parts that interest you these days that I can't imagine that wrestling is capturing the imagination like it did for previous generations. Wrestling as a whole is on a downward spiral, I imagine that it will always be around in some form or another but I don't really foresee it ever greatly expanding it's fanbase again. The sale of WCW to the WWE was the culmination of Vince's territorial conquest and like Alexander the Great once there were no more lands to conquer there's nothing remaining to be done other than to go into a holding pattern trying to govern his conquests until inevitably his successors lose control of the kingdom. I just really hope said successors are more wrestling, and not MMA. Christ, I hate MMA.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Oct 29, 2013 0:56:24 GMT -5
I spent 2 years in therapy trying to make sence of WCW 2000.
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Post by metylerca on Oct 29, 2013 1:05:36 GMT -5
Many of them gave up when no girls came to their nationally televised Nitro Party. Having their reputation ripped to shreds as the "sausage king" of their college, they resented WCW, and by proxy; wrestling, forever.
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 29, 2013 2:57:29 GMT -5
They're all working for Roto Rooter like David Arquette in Ready To Rumble.
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Post by Dang! on Oct 29, 2013 7:06:53 GMT -5
I stopped watching wrestling, but I stopped before WCW folded. Then I started watching again and preferred TNA over WWE. I used to watch WCW and WWE, preferring WCW and now it's the same with TNA and WWE. I strongly consider just stopping to watch again. It has become rather a habit than a passion and I don't think I'd miss it too much if I had to stop.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 29, 2013 7:39:50 GMT -5
I always just watched both anyway. I figure there's a fair amount of crossover between WWE and TNA today too.
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