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Post by Goldenbane on Nov 5, 2013 17:09:00 GMT -5
This is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If the flames were too hot for a full gear firefighter, then the dude would have most likely died going back into the building, and if he did you can bet your ass that the police would have caught flack for letting the guy go in. The amount of flak the cop(s) would have received from their superiors for letting the dad go in is a f***ing atom compared to the lifetime of mental misery this dad is going to go through. There is absolutely no comparison at all. I'm pretty sure the dad's mental misery would have paled in comparison to the insane rage the mother and remaining child would have felt for the police allowing dad to go back in the house and get himself killed, as well as the mental misery they both would have suffered having lost a sibling and son as well as a husband and father when the police could have and should have stopped him. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Nov 5, 2013 17:11:26 GMT -5
The amount of flak the cop(s) would have received from their superiors for letting the dad go in is a f***ing atom compared to the lifetime of mental misery this dad is going to go through. There is absolutely no comparison at all. I'm pretty sure the dad's mental misery would have paled in comparison to the insane rage the mother and remaining child would have felt for the police allowing dad to go back in the house and get himself killed, as well as the mental misery they both would have suffered having lost a sibling and son as well as a husband and father when the police could have and should have stopped him. Exactly. If they let the dad go back in it would have led to more death, more misery, and more tragedy. |
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Post by salsashark on Nov 5, 2013 17:17:35 GMT -5
I do see what you guys mean. This is an interesting question. It's like a greater take on the big question of whether or not a society should "allow" someone to commit suicide if they want to. Lots of interesting angles on the individual's good versus the community's good.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Nov 5, 2013 19:03:10 GMT -5
I do see what you guys mean. This is an interesting question. It's like a greater take on the big question of whether or not a society should "allow" someone to commit suicide if they want to. Lots of interesting angles on the individual's good versus the community's good. It is an interesting situation, that's for certain. |
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Post by Reflecto on Nov 5, 2013 20:35:58 GMT -5
Yeah, As much As I feel terrible that his kid was dead, Police saved his life, I'm sure in time he will forgive the Officer But even with these stories, people are just trying to "assume" the father WILL ever forgive the officer in time. As was said by many people as well, just by stopping him from trying to save the cop, the father's going to go through a lifetime of mental and emotional torture over the death of his child. However, as was said, the officer "became the bad guy so that the father's sacrificial love was unassailable without making the sacrifice"- which, in this grieving, tortured man's mind, is worse because it GIVES the tortured man a boogeyman to project the anger on to. Now, in addition to "It should have been me" and "Why didn't I go in and save my son?", the father has an actual villain, and will think in the back of his tortured mind for the rest of his life "...if that cop didn't Tazer me, I would have been able to save my son", becoming "When that cop Tazered me, he murdered my son" ...and with that line of thinking, that's when things could get FAR worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 21:07:10 GMT -5
I find it odd that the parents ran outside, called the cops, waited for them to arrive, then wanted to save their son. Why didn't they grab him on their way out?
MY child would have been the first thing I would have thought of.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 5, 2013 22:29:29 GMT -5
Brave decision from the copper. He'd know how much shit he'd get and hatred from people for doing it yet he still did it to save a life.
Brave decision, hope nothing happens to him because of it.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 5, 2013 22:36:20 GMT -5
It's a really tough call, and a shitty situation all around
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 5, 2013 22:38:55 GMT -5
Cops have a really shitty job sometimes. Everyone involved in this got dropped into a world of shit.
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Post by angryfan on Nov 5, 2013 22:44:59 GMT -5
There is no decision that could have been made that was a happy one. A complete Sophie's Choice moment for the officer. If I am at the zoo and a loved one falls in the tiger cage and is being mauled, my impulse is to go in and save them. However, if an officer stops me, it is because the only outcome of that, short of some miracle, is me dying or being seriously injured as well.
Let's say for the sake of it, I'm the cop who is there, and the guy appeals to me as a father and says "f*** you, my kid is in there, move" and I do. The house goes up, and both the child and the father die. I then knowingly let a man die, and will now be held accountable for two deaths. First, the father because I "didn't do my job" and "allowed him to go in even though I knew it was too dangerous" and for the death of the child since it was my job to protect him.
I get the father's impulse, and I would try the same as he did. However, that doesn't stop me from knowing that, unless the officer ran in and saved the child's life or died trying, he would be the bad guy in the situation.
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