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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 0:17:31 GMT -5
Problem no 1: Jeff Jarrett. Not even close to a top guy, but was always going to be the focus of the company, WCW always looked bad with a clear "lower mid carder" as the champion. TNA was bush league from day one. If that wasn't bad enough Jeff's best friend happens to be the worst booker ever!
Problem no 2: Damn Russo, who after WCW, should have been banned from pro wrestling for life, was allowed to create more rampant stupidity that made everyone who tuned in, to give the new guys a chance, Thoroughly regret it.
Problem no 3: Backstage. No one who worked for WCW backstage should have been able to find work within the industry ever again. Yet here they are. With zero ideas on how to move wrestling forward and constantly pushing stale ideas. Just like they were doing in WCW.
Problem no 4: nWo. Just because it worked once, TNA needs to constantly have their version of it. Aces and Eights is just the latest in a very long line of pathetic rip off that no one wants to see, yet here they are. WCW had the same problem with the 4 Horseman, see problem no 3. Bully Rey didn't need the faction and it has failed to create any new stars.
Problem no 5: Dixie Carter. The sister just doesn't get it. And she just wont admit it to herself that she is way, way, way out of her depth here. Sad really.
There's nothing wrong with the in ring talent, they just need some new ideas and direction, which they just wont get.
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Post by gnr123 on Nov 16, 2013 1:02:27 GMT -5
Well, for one they have no top face, no central character. They have no one to build and promote their company around. I understand they he is untrustworthy, but a clean motivated Jeff Hardy as the face of TNA could do wonders for the company.
Just like SOR said, they have no character's that stand out, that separates them from everyone else, everybody's basically the same. Look at the roster, there's like 3 people that actually stand out. They don't seem to have any directions with their storylines. Stable-wars don't draw in 2013, but don't let Eric Bischoff know that. Dixie Carter is totally inept and delusional, and she seemingly let's everybody do whatever the hell they want. It'll like WCW, there's to many cooks in the kitchen. Whereas in WWE, we all know that Vince in THE BOSS and nobody tells him what to do. They have no real structure or identity, they have no clear endings to any of their top storylines. they constantly try to bash WWE, but it never get's them anywhere. They sign wrestlers like Chavo and Gail Kim and basically give them all the gold they don't deserve just to please them. They think their competition to WWE, they'll never admit their wrong about anything, they make up these obscured theories about why no one watches TNA. They just can't fathom the fact that the product may be terrible, no it's because of history, or if more people see it, they would like it.
TNA's in a stale-mate right now, they don't seem like their going anywhere. For a company that had/has so many big names, they haven't done much of anything in term of growth or ratings in a few years now. After Hogan came in they pretty much plateaued and haven't really gone anywhere. Their move to Monday's failed, rebranding to bash WWE failed, going live failed, going on the road failed. They've tried so much over the course of a decade and nothing has worked for them. And it's all their fault. No one can take them seriously anymore. When you have a wrestler come out intoxicated on pay per view, don't expect to get praised for be edgy or controversial. Putting up billboards in Stanford in front on Titan Towers doesn't mean to shit to WWE.
And Dixie wants to have a co-branded PPV with WWE? And having her company publically bash WWE time and time again? And people wonder why no one takes this company seriously. And how she has a question/answer on twitter days after all the recent firings. She's stupid, who ever books the show is stupid, and it's stupid to think this company will ever be competition. If their lucky, in 10 years they'll be in the same vein as ECW. Maybe.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 16, 2013 11:24:21 GMT -5
It's more than likely already been said, but I really think WWE is too big to try and compete with on WWE's terms. Trying to copy the WWE formula with a bit more attitude isn't going to work. So I feel they really have to find their own path. However, it seems like whenever they start down a positive path they switch gears and totally f*** up what they had. I've seen it with the x division, the knockouts, Samoa Joe, AJ, Austin Aries, etc.
I will say I'll miss TNA because... sometimes when TNA tries something with the best intentions it's amazing how mind boggling stupid it ends up. Like on that first Monday night Impact, Homicide failing to escape the cage in the Asylum match.
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Post by Glitch on Nov 17, 2013 0:33:10 GMT -5
I have this theory that they're ashamed of what made them fun before. The X-Division gave them identity and brought some of their early loyal fans (myself included) to the fray. But then they decided back then that the X-Division was secondary and not worth focusing on. The Knockouts garnered them their best quarter hours for a big chunk of time. Then one day they shifted their focus from promoting the Knockouts to one day having one of their women pull the title out of a box. Back then they got groans from fans not wanting to see old men reliving past glory at a wrestling version of a retirement home. But they kept on with THAT line of booking, despite people for years saying it was their main problem. And I get "retirement home" from members of my family who would walk behind me during 2005/06/07 PPVS and notice all of the ex-WWE guys half assing it in TNA. They wouldn't be intrigued, they'd laugh and walk past. They might talk about how "those guys are too old to wrestle" but nothing resembling interest in TNA. What for? If only they'd seen what fans wanted from the beginning, they could be ahead of the curve. Their best drawing cards included Angle and Samoa Joe. No bullshit. No company on the line with Dixie in distress while the newest NWO ripoff ran rampant. It was two wrestlers who had big followings going at it one on one with no shenanigans. And now, every segment on every Impact has to include either a run-in, a post match beatdown, or an immediate cut "to the back" to deemphasize what we just saw and instead show us what Sting is saying backstage from the vantage point of a perverted Peeping Tom. Think about it. It's not hard to notice. This reminds me that they try everything except putting on a good show. Something you'd think would be simple to comprehend.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 12:06:33 GMT -5
TNA needs to be banned from having heel stables for the next 10 years. Watch the show slowly improve after that happens.
And I don't mean some group of 2-3 people. I mean anything where they might have the idea that having 5 heels stand in the ring opening the show with a 25+ minute promo segment is a good idea.
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Post by onetruemisfit on Nov 17, 2013 13:48:41 GMT -5
Not enough Bobby Roode!
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Post by saintpat on Nov 17, 2013 23:05:49 GMT -5
I have two major problems, ones that I can't get past. Every time I come back and say 'I'm going to give TNA a try again," it's one or both of these that drive me away:
1) Not enough wrestling. TNA, to survive (much less thrive) needs to present an alternative to WWE. Given their resources, the one thing they can do is make their show about the product in the ring -- they have the roster to put on great matches, and if they would consistently do that it would at lesat offer something different that they can make TNA's calling card: you tune in, you're going to see great wrestling.
Instead, every time I come back (the first show after BFG being a prime example), I get 7 minutes of wrestling in the first hour and maybe 18 minues in 2 hours -- and those first-hour matches were an EC squash and a quickie Knockouts match.
The name of the product is TNA and it is SUPPOSED to stand for Total Nonstop Action -- but it's like calling a 6-foot-6, 400-pound guy 'Tiny.' Because in reality it's Talk Not Action or Total Non Action.
That's not a hard thing to get right and TNA just ... can't.
2) Constant, never-ending face and heel turns -- for no good reason.
I'll tune in and watch and three weeks later I tune back in and it seems like half the roster has switched alignment. And almost never with a good explanation (although with Vinne Roo I guess it was "SHOCK VALUE" -- but it's not shocking when it's the status quo{\).
It seems like they have two guys, someone decides to put them in a feud, and they say, "Well, it doesn't make sense because this guy is a face and that guy is a heel" and they just change them. Then those two guys move on and they turn one or both of them for the next feud. And so on and so on.
How is anyone supposed to care when the guy they want to like can't make up his mind if he wants you to cheer for him or boo him? And it's like the weather -- I don't do either because I know if I wait a minute it's going to change anyway.
If they would do just those two, simple things -- dramatically increase the volume of in-ring action week to week and more or less freeze the roster so the faces stay faces and the heels stay heels (and only change a few people a year, and only when it is needed for the long run) -- I think a lot of the rest of the problems would really be kind of minor.
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