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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 21, 2013 9:04:47 GMT -5
I've been seeing so many people saying that it's a lock or that the only person who should win the Rumble next month is Daniel Bryan and it's starting to baffle me. It fathoms me how so many people don't put much logic into picking the Rumble winner when it comes to foreseeing WrestleMania matches, like when plenty of people predicted CM Punk to win in 2011, despite The Miz being champion at the time. Let's look at some points here:
- Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton faced off on three straight pay-per-views in the last few months, four if you include SummerSlam.
- Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton also faced each other about four times over the summer on tv.
- Daniel Bryan's already been champion and beaten Randy Orton before.
- It's entirely possible that Cena and Bryan are in a triple threat match at the Rumble, yet some people STILL predict Bryan will win the Rumble even if this match happens.
Do you honestly think they're gonna give us Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton AGAIN? Outside of the "WrestleMania moment" aspect of it, what does this accomplish? Dragging a feud out for 7 and a half months? Giving Bryan his big moment that's literally happened twice already in late 2013? That's overkill.
If anything, I see either CM Punk or some darkhorse of Roman Reigns or Big E Langston winning, with my prediction going to Punk winning and taking down Orton. They've never done face Punk vs heel Orton and at least that's something they haven't done in a while either. This leaves Bryan to face Shawn Michaels and for Triple H to do whatever he feels like doing
I get that some people want Bryan as champion and maybe he'll get the title at some point after Mania, but it's not happening on that show. I'm sure I'm gonna get a ton of hate responses on this since I'm not conforming to what's popular nowadays, but all I'm doing is trying to be logical with it. Orton vs. Bryan AGAIN does nothing for WrestleMania.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 9:06:03 GMT -5
You do realise that there's a PPV between Royal Rumble and WrestleMania, right?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 21, 2013 9:07:24 GMT -5
You do realise that there's a PPV between Royal Rumble and WrestleMania, right? What's your point? That Orton will lose the title? Is it really worth it to have Orton drop the title after essentially holding it since SummerSlam (not counting the vacant period) just to drop it at the Chamber? |
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Dec 21, 2013 9:08:52 GMT -5
I imagine when people picked Punk to win in 2011, some of them thought he may face Edge at Mania, which would've been better than Edge/ADR.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 9:10:53 GMT -5
You do realise that there's a PPV between Royal Rumble and WrestleMania, right? What's your point? That Orton will lose the title? Is it really worth it to have Orton drop the title after essentially holding it since SummerSlam (not counting the vacant period) just to drop it at the Chamber? I'm not saying he will, but you don't even seem to be considering it. The world title has changed hands plenty of times at the February PPV. Not only that, but who said it has to be Bryan/Orton 1-on-1? I've seen plenty of people suggest a triple threat with Punk or Cena or a fatal 4-way with those four. Also last time I checked Punk was most people's pick to win anyway so I don't know where this "Everyone thinks Bryan is a lock" talk is coming from. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 9:14:08 GMT -5
I imagine when people picked Punk to win in 2011, some of them thought he may face Edge at Mania, which would've been better than Edge/ADR. CM Punk was who I thought would win in 2011. I thought that Punk would win and Miz would defend the title in a Chamber match and lose to either Orton or Cena. Considering Sheamus lost the WWE title the previous year in the Chamber, it was possible. |
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Post by BigWill on Dec 21, 2013 9:25:55 GMT -5
You say no one's using logic to pick the winner, then go on to say that Roman Reigns and Big E have a better chance than Daniel Bryan?
Maybe if they still had a Heavyweight Title, but now that they're unified, definitely not. They're not going to give someone as untested as Big E a world title shot, and the WWE doesn't even trust Roman Reigns in singles matches. The idea of either one of them main eventing WrestleMania 30 is laughable.
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Post by Boo! on Dec 21, 2013 9:27:25 GMT -5
I think the winner of the Rumble will be someone 'new' to the ME scene rather than an old hand
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 21, 2013 9:28:42 GMT -5
You say no one's using logic to pick the winner, then go on to say that Roman Reigns and Big E have a better chance than Daniel Bryan? Maybe if they still had a Heavyweight Title, but now that they're unified, definitely not. They're not going to give someone as untested as Big E a world title shot, and the WWE doesn't even trust Roman Reigns in singles matches. The idea of either one of them main eventing WrestleMania 30 is laughable. Big E and Reigns are darkhorses based on recent events. Them winning would be the idea of someone completely new coming out and dethroning Orton to be pushed as the star of tomorrow, whereas they've already done that story with Bryan |
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Post by Totorob101 on Dec 21, 2013 9:33:25 GMT -5
I think the winner of the Rumble will be someone 'new' to the ME scene rather than an old hand Honestly, i wouldnt be surprised if Batista returned and won the thing. I just cant picture Bryan main eventing Mania at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 9:37:15 GMT -5
You say no one's using logic to pick the winner, then go on to say that Roman Reigns and Big E have a better chance than Daniel Bryan? Maybe if they still had a Heavyweight Title, but now that they're unified, definitely not. They're not going to give someone as untested as Big E a world title shot, and the WWE doesn't even trust Roman Reigns in singles matches. The idea of either one of them main eventing WrestleMania 30 is laughable. Big E and Reigns are darkhorses based on recent events. Them winning would be the idea of someone completely new coming out and dethroning Orton to be pushed as the star of tomorrow, whereas they've already done that story with Bryan I can't see Big E losing the IC title between now and the Rumble, and there's no chance he'll win the Rumble as IC champ. Reigns has an outside chance but it's way too soon and I think WWE knows that. Punk is the clear favourite. |
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Post by repomark on Dec 21, 2013 9:46:39 GMT -5
I think it is a bit dismissive to proclaim that Daniel Bryan will DEFINITELY not win the Royal Rumble, and to be fair traditional booking logic/storytelling dictates he is one of the favourites, i.e. so he can finally get his revenge over the authority who screwed him over previously. Not saying that will happen, it is just the original post seems to think it is impossible for him to win and I do not think that is the case at all.
For me it is between D-Bry, Punk or a surprise entrant for Royal Rumble winner.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Dec 21, 2013 10:00:44 GMT -5
I imagine when people picked Punk to win in 2011, some of them thought he may face Edge at Mania, which would've been better than Edge/ADR. CM Punk was who I thought would win in 2011. I thought that Punk would win and Miz would defend the title in a Chamber match and lose to either Orton or Cena. Considering Sheamus lost the WWE title the previous year in the Chamber, it was possible. I picked Punk to win too, thinking he would face Edge, Orton or Cena, because I thought there was no way that Miz would be in the Mania main event, shows how wrong I was. |
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Post by Crimson on Dec 21, 2013 10:05:26 GMT -5
I think the winner of the Rumble will be someone 'new' to the ME scene rather than an old hand |
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Post by BigWill on Dec 21, 2013 10:07:26 GMT -5
You say no one's using logic to pick the winner, then go on to say that Roman Reigns and Big E have a better chance than Daniel Bryan? Maybe if they still had a Heavyweight Title, but now that they're unified, definitely not. They're not going to give someone as untested as Big E a world title shot, and the WWE doesn't even trust Roman Reigns in singles matches. The idea of either one of them main eventing WrestleMania 30 is laughable. Big E and Reigns are darkhorses based on recent events. Them winning would be the idea of someone completely new coming out and dethroning Orton to be pushed as the star of tomorrow, whereas they've already done that story with Bryan The thing is, they haven't finished that story with Bryan. That's why they keep going on about how Orton hasn't beaten Bryan clean. Not to mention, Daniel Bryan gets screwed every time he wins the title, and has yet managed to get any real revenge on Orton or the Authority. And what recent events make you think Big E and Reigns are even in the consideration for dethroning Orton? Big E just won the IC title, and is nowhere near over enough to get such a huge push. And like I said, the WWE rarely even puts Reigns in singles matches because he's still green, and you think they'd suddenly trust him the main event of WrestleMania? Basically, Punk or Bryan are the favorites to win the Rumble because they make the most sense. The only darkhorse I see winning would be Sheamus, with a surprise return. |
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 21, 2013 10:20:53 GMT -5
Big E and Reigns are darkhorses based on recent events. Them winning would be the idea of someone completely new coming out and dethroning Orton to be pushed as the star of tomorrow, whereas they've already done that story with Bryan The thing is, they haven't finished that story with Bryan. That's why they keep going on about how Orton hasn't beaten Bryan clean. Not to mention, Daniel Bryan gets screwed every time he wins the title, and has yet managed to get any real revenge on Orton or the Authority. And what recent events make you think Big E and Reigns are even in the consideration for dethroning Orton? Big E just won the IC title, and is nowhere near over enough to get such a huge push. And like I said, the WWE rarely even puts Reigns in singles matches because he's still green, and you think they'd suddenly trust him the main event of WrestleMania? Basically, Punk or Bryan are the favorites to win the Rumble because they make the most sense. The only darkhorse I see winning would be Sheamus, with a surprise return. Alberto Del Rio won the Royal Rumble after only 5 months on the main roster. Big E for some reason is being pit against The Shield with Punk and Cena now and stood tall at the end of SmackDown. I'm not predicting them, he or Reigns winning wouldn't be a "I did not see that coming at all" type of moment. The story with Bryan isn't finished, but it doesn't have to end at Mania. Hell, many storylines don't end period and just kind of go away. Bryan can face many different people that aren't Randy Orton and still have his story go on. |
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Dec 21, 2013 10:24:25 GMT -5
It's an outside stretch, but just slightly. Bryan's reactions remain consistent enough that if they get behind him sufficiently in the run toward the Rumble itself, then it'd be halfway feasible. Though, yes, given the steam that's come off his push in the last 3 months, it remains a stretch as is.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 21, 2013 10:38:00 GMT -5
I'm expecting nothing from WWE
I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Big Show, Sheamus, or Alberto won the Rumble, despite practically no one wanting such an outcome.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Dec 21, 2013 10:42:14 GMT -5
I think there's a good possibility they'll have Cena win the Ttile off Orton in a Triple Threat with Bryan. Than Bryan goes on to win the Rumble, cementing Cena giving him his rematch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 10:55:57 GMT -5
A Triple threat would in theory actually be a great idea.
Orton V Cena V Bryan makes sense from a logical booking standpoint, it addresses that Cena and Bryan need a rematch from Summerslam, it deals with Cenas current fued with orton and it finishes the unfinished business between Orton and Bryan (without rehashing that same match again)
It might fail in execution though, Triple Threat matches usually aren't all that good.
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