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Post by tekkenguy on Dec 26, 2013 23:10:48 GMT -5
Was the double-turn of Alberto Del Rio and Dolph Ziggler at Payback planned, or did Del Rio just get booed so heavily that WWE had to do the turn?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 26, 2013 23:46:14 GMT -5
Yeah, from what I remember it was planned.
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Post by Instant Classic on Dec 27, 2013 0:20:44 GMT -5
a face should never show that much aggression.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Dec 27, 2013 0:26:56 GMT -5
The commentators spent the match selling Ziggler's heart and fighting spirit and acting taken aback at how viciously Del Rio was exploiting Dolph's concussion. And these are the same spineless company shills who freak out when someone attributes a Harley Race move to Harley Race instead of Triple H.
So yes, it was planned.
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Post by Dean-o on Dec 27, 2013 0:29:53 GMT -5
I watched the match at a bar with no sound on and even I could tell it was planned. I'm sure the horrible scripted commentary that night would have given it away within minutes.
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Post by Some Guy on Dec 27, 2013 0:46:05 GMT -5
It was obviously planned, but the aftermath made everyone look like shit so I could see why one would think it wasn't.
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Post by Starshine on Dec 27, 2013 0:52:20 GMT -5
I honestly don't know who came off worse because of the turn.
I mean despite how badly he's been booked recently, I feel like Ziggler is still pretty popular. Also despite pretty strong booking, it seems like no one really cares about Del Rio anymore, which is a shame considering his face run for the most part took off a lot better than expected.
The double switch just seemed to kill both guys in the long term.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 27, 2013 0:53:37 GMT -5
A face probably wouldn't kick a concussed guy in the head repeatedly, so yeah, probably.
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Post by mizerable on Dec 27, 2013 1:13:55 GMT -5
Of course not.
Del Rio broke character and started shootin' on an injured Ziggler by targeting his head.
Ryback was scheduled to win the WWE title too, but the darned ambulance top gave way. Darn it.
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 27, 2013 1:19:23 GMT -5
After the match Ziggler was over as a face, and Del Rio was not over at all. Guess which one got a push??
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Dec 27, 2013 1:26:58 GMT -5
After the match Ziggler was over as a face, and Del Rio was not over at all. Guess which one got a push?? Unfortunately one was so aggressive that it cancelled it all out. |
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Post by cool guy on Dec 27, 2013 1:35:48 GMT -5
After the match Ziggler was over as a face, and Del Rio was not over at all. Guess which one got a push?? I don't like the guy, but in the interest of honesty that was the one time Del Rio really was over. He got legitimate heat for what he did to Dolph. And then he blew it by remaining the same boring guy ever since. |
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 27, 2013 1:43:37 GMT -5
After the match Ziggler was over as a face, and Del Rio was not over at all. Guess which one got a push?? I don't like the guy, but in the interest of honesty that was the one time Del Rio really was over. He got legitimate heat for what he did to Dolph. And then he blew it by remaining the same boring guy ever since. During that night he was over as a heel, but after that his reactions are something even Rob Conway would dread at |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 6:28:55 GMT -5
It was Chicago. They know what crowds love guys like Ziggler. And they knew that Del Rio was rapidly losing steam as Mex Luger.
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Post by tekkenguy on Dec 28, 2013 8:21:30 GMT -5
OK. I see. I have an add-on question:
Were there any plans on the double-turn before Ziggler got a concussion?
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Post by Starshine on Dec 28, 2013 8:26:40 GMT -5
OK. I see. I have an add-on question: Were there any plans on the double-turn before Ziggler got a concussion? From the news that came out a little after, and looking at how the whole things was booked going forward, I think they were always going to do the double turn after they realised how much more popular Ziggler was. The concussion angle just helped them get there. The only problem is they decided to do the turn for the sake of pushing Del Rio as heel instead of building a real angle and feud between the two. |
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Post by tekkenguy on Dec 28, 2013 8:35:32 GMT -5
OK. I see. I have an add-on question: Were there any plans on the double-turn before Ziggler got a concussion? From the news that came out a little after, and looking at how the whole things was booked going forward, I think they were always going to do the double turn after they realised how much more popular Ziggler was. The concussion angle just helped them get there. The only problem is they decided to do the turn for the sake of pushing Del Rio as heel instead of building a real angle and feud between the two. How do you think they would have booked the double-turn if Ziggler didn't have a concussion? |
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Post by Starshine on Dec 28, 2013 8:39:51 GMT -5
From the news that came out a little after, and looking at how the whole things was booked going forward, I think they were always going to do the double turn after they realised how much more popular Ziggler was. The concussion angle just helped them get there. The only problem is they decided to do the turn for the sake of pushing Del Rio as heel instead of building a real angle and feud between the two. How do you think they would have booked the double-turn if Ziggler didn't have a concussion? I guess Del Rio could have cheated to get the belt back or something like that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2013 8:43:32 GMT -5
It was clearly planned, if only because of the pro Ziggler commentary throughout the match.
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