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Post by revolver86 on Dec 28, 2013 15:46:08 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, myself, but after watching his match with Ziggler, last night, I can't help but give the man major props for his in ring work since turning heel. His matches with Bryan and Goldust are other great examples. Too bad his actual title matches usually stink up the joint. But on free TV he's putting on clinics.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 28, 2013 15:50:04 GMT -5
He always switches it into a new gear when he has gold around his waist.
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Post by TGM on Dec 28, 2013 16:14:00 GMT -5
He is the best wrestler on the roster.
A shame he's such a dullard as a heel.
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 28, 2013 16:17:34 GMT -5
His feud with Big Show was such a mistake. For a heel to work, the face needs to be over, and Big Show has not been over in like 10 years. If they replaced Show, with Ziggler for that feud, not only would everyone eye Ziggler as a main eventer, but would have actually ordered that PPV AND the match would have been good
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TGM
Hank Scorpio
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Post by TGM on Dec 28, 2013 16:18:28 GMT -5
He is the best wrestler on the roster.
A shame he's such a dullard as a heel.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 28, 2013 16:20:03 GMT -5
His feud with Big Show was such a mistake. For a heel to work, the face needs to be over, and Big Show has not been over in like 10 years. If they replaced Show, with Ziggler for that feud, not only would everyone eye Ziggler as a main eventer, but would have actually ordered that PPV AND the match would have been good Over as a face, yeah, maybe, but Big Show was pretty damn over as ECW champ and all that. Over means more than just popularity, it also extends to credibility, and Big Show was credible as a top heel, but he is kind of obvious as a perpetual choke artist. He is brought in to challenge a top heel and, realistically, no one but little kids thinks he will win. |
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 28, 2013 16:22:31 GMT -5
His feud with Big Show was such a mistake. For a heel to work, the face needs to be over, and Big Show has not been over in like 10 years. If they replaced Show, with Ziggler for that feud, not only would everyone eye Ziggler as a main eventer, but would have actually ordered that PPV AND the match would have been good Over as a face, yeah, maybe, but Big Show was pretty damn over as ECW champ and all that. Over means more than just popularity, it also extends to credibility, and Big Show was credible as a top heel, but he is kind of obvious as a perpetual choke artist. He is brought in to challenge a top heel and, realistically, no one but little kids thinks he will win. They had to stop booking dates at ECW venues because the fans would chant such obscene things at him. |
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 28, 2013 16:23:06 GMT -5
I haven't seen this match yet but assuming it really is that good I figure somebody must have told him to stop being deliberately boring as he's had more good matches in the last couple of weeks than he has in the past few months.
Maybe that newz about the heel/face dynamic being downplayed has something to do with that if it's true.
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 28, 2013 16:29:20 GMT -5
Orton has always been one of the top workers in the company.
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Post by revolver86 on Dec 28, 2013 16:33:10 GMT -5
Yeah, this is the best he's been since his WHC run with his awesome matches against Christian and Mark Henry. The post match beat down, of Ziggler last night, was a thing to behold. Perfect wrestling, I hated his guts and had so much sympathy for Ziggler.
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