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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 19:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Dec 30, 2013 19:31:58 GMT -5
no one really uses ANY nasa spoken work samples ..... has anyone used the more famous one?
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Post by Lila on Dec 30, 2013 19:46:50 GMT -5
The song she uses it in is XO and it's at the very beginning of the song.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 20:05:49 GMT -5
Beyonce does whatever the f*** Beyonce wants. End of discussion. I don't see NASA having the highest selling album of the year. Maybe they should spent less time focusing on B and more time trying to colonize Mars. I want f***ing Gundams! Get on it NASA.
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Post by Waffel113 on Dec 30, 2013 20:09:21 GMT -5
Why would you even consider this?
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Post by Piccolo on Dec 30, 2013 20:12:05 GMT -5
She ought to apologize. That's a lousy thing to do to those families for the sake of a throwaway moment in a pop song.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 30, 2013 21:22:39 GMT -5
She ought to apologize. That's a lousy thing to do to those families for the sake of a throwaway moment in a pop song. At worst, you could accuse her of being clumsy and missing the mark, but certainly not a ghoul.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:42:24 GMT -5
She ought to apologize. That's a lousy thing to do to those families for the sake of a throwaway moment in a pop song. Oh. So it's the songwriters who wrote that audio clip into the beginning of her song. Are these the same songwriters that had her say/sing "Put a ring on it" 95 times in a row in that classic song of hers, "Put a Ring On It"? I think I'm being just snarky. I think.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 30, 2013 21:47:07 GMT -5
Oh. So it's the songwriters who wrote that audio clip into the beginning of her song. Are these the same songwriters that had her say/sing "Put a ring on it" 95 times in a row in that classic song of hers, "Put a Ring On It"? I think I'm being just snarky. I think. It's what you do when you do something the average person with an IQ above room temperature calls you out on your shit. Blame everyone and everything else and then try to justify it.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 30, 2013 21:51:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm sure her PR team came up with the tribute angle when she was called out on for trying to monetize on a tragedy that still affects living people.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 30, 2013 21:53:13 GMT -5
Oh. So it's the songwriters who wrote that audio clip into the beginning of her song. Are these the same songwriters that had her say/sing "Put a ring on it" 95 times in a row in that classic song of hers, "Put a Ring On It"? I think I'm being just snarky. I think. It's what you do when you do something the average person with an IQ above room temperature calls you out on your shit. Blame everyone and everything else and then try to justify it. What "shit"? It's not like she went out of their way to piss on the memories of the Challenger victims, she just made an awkward tribute. People make mistakes, there's not much to call her out on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 22:09:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm sure her PR team came up with the tribute angle when she was called out on for trying to monetize on a tragedy that still affects living people. I think you're making it out to be more malicious than it is. It's just what happens when artists sample shit without really thinking about the implications. It's just sticking a sound on a song that she (or someone, anyways) thought sounded right, not that it was important to the message/theme of the song, it was just a sound that fit.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 30, 2013 22:11:46 GMT -5
It's what you do when you do something the average person with an IQ above room temperature calls you out on your shit. Blame everyone and everything else and then try to justify it. What "shit"? It's not like she went out of their way to piss on the memories of the Challenger victims, she just made an awkward tribute. People make mistakes, there's not much to call her out on. It's not exactly "Candles in the Wind," it's a song about a relationship. The rest of the video is her at a carnival with a guy and interacting with fans. The idea that she randomly decided that her next big single would be a tribute to a 27 year old disaster that much of her target audience wasn't alive for is not terribly believable. I think they randomly picked an audio clip without thinking about it's significance, then tried to claim it was a tribute when people who were really affected by the disaster stood up and said "hey, that's a dick move." It's not the worst thing ever, but the idea that a PR team makes something up to cover their asses is much more plausible than their explanation that it's a tribute gone awry.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 30, 2013 22:18:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm sure her PR team came up with the tribute angle when she was called out on for trying to monetize on a tragedy that still affects living people. I think you're making it out to be more malicious than it is. It's just what happens when artists sample shit without really thinking about the implications. It's just sticking a sound on a song that she (or someone, anyways) thought sounded right, not that it was important to the message/theme of the song, it was just a sound that fit. I think you're right in that they picked it without thinking about it, and I don't think they sat around a table and cackled menacingly about who they could hurt, but at the end of the day they still sampled an audio clip of a tragedy to promote a silly little pop song, so I still think it's well-deserved that she takes heat from them and they call her out on it. The explanation to me just reeks of thinking the audience will buy anything.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Dec 30, 2013 22:22:26 GMT -5
Too soon?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 22:43:07 GMT -5
I think you're making it out to be more malicious than it is. It's just what happens when artists sample shit without really thinking about the implications. It's just sticking a sound on a song that she (or someone, anyways) thought sounded right, not that it was important to the message/theme of the song, it was just a sound that fit. I think you're right in that they picked it without thinking about it, and I don't think they sat around a table and cackled menacingly about who they could hurt, but at the end of the day they still sampled an audio clip of a tragedy to promote a silly little pop song, so I still think it's well-deserved that she takes heat from them and they call her out on it. The explanation to me just reeks of thinking the audience will buy anything. I agree if for no other reason than to teach artists to be more mindful of what they're doing when it comes to sampling, and that it can be used to serve a song in a much more meaningful way than to be some haphazardly chosen effect to fill a song. I'd be lying if I said I'm personally offended for any reason outside of artistic merit, but that's why I tend to avoid acts like Beyonce in the first place.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 31, 2013 0:10:29 GMT -5
It's what you do when you do something the average person with an IQ above room temperature calls you out on your shit. Blame everyone and everything else and then try to justify it. What "shit"? It's not like she went out of their way to piss on the memories of the Challenger victims, she just made an awkward tribute. People make mistakes, there's not much to call her out on. They knew it would upset people. Like how Boston now owns the word strong. In another 15 years it'd be offensive to put phone calls from the 9/11 attacks on your little song. Mostly, this is just a little thing to drum up a few minutes of press, just like almost everything that happens now.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 31, 2013 1:20:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm sure her PR team came up with the tribute angle when she was called out on for trying to monetize on a tragedy that still affects living people. I think you're making it out to be more malicious than it is. It's just what happens when artists sample shit without really thinking about the implications. It's just sticking a sound on a song that she (or someone, anyways) thought sounded right, not that it was important to the message/theme of the song, it was just a sound that fit. Probably not a bad idea to maybe look up where that sound clip came from if that's the case.
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 31, 2013 7:56:11 GMT -5
I think NASA put it best when they used the word "trivialize" that's exactly what happened, and that's exactly what people get offended by.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 31, 2013 8:51:18 GMT -5
Oh. So it's the songwriters who wrote that audio clip into the beginning of her song. Are these the same songwriters that had her say/sing "Put a ring on it" 95 times in a row in that classic song of hers, "Put a Ring On It"? I think I'm being just snarky. I think. She does NOT say "put a ring on it" 95 times in a row. She say's "All the Single Ladies" 95 times in a row.
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