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Post by Woo on Jan 2, 2014 13:08:15 GMT -5
Yes, it's great for a nostalgic pop. But what happens when his nostalgic pop fades away and your left with him defeating Yokozuna, refusing to job to Bret, beating HBK, defeating Orton, putting himself all over TNA. Have him return and save Xaiver Woods from the 3 Man Band or something. Don't put him in the ring with potential stars of the future. Hogan only cares about one thing- Hulk Hogan... well that and his daughter... well his daughter's ass crack anyway.
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Post by bootytea on Jan 2, 2014 13:19:45 GMT -5
It would be silly not to spend weeks advertising such a gigantic return. Hulk Hogan embodies Wrestlemania, so the most sensical thing to do is to have him return at the very show that would mean nothing without the blood of his charismatic powers running through our veins baby! To be fair when The Rock returned to announce he'd be at Mania they didn't hype it and it was a suprise (that didn't leak out) If Hogan shows up as a suprise on old school raw to announce he'll be at Mania it causes Twitter to go mental with tweets about Hogan all which is what WWE would probably want. It was one of those things we all saw coming though. People even had signs in preparation for it. When guys like Chris Jericho or the Rock return, its no longer that big of a deal, but Hogan has been gone for so long and is less likely doing it to shill a movie or some shitty rock group. We are talking about a TNA legend jumping ship. Not since the Radicalz has there been such a huge acquisition.
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Post by AJ Smudgico on Jan 2, 2014 13:59:14 GMT -5
I thought about this the other day. Imagine this: Cena's in the ring getting beat down by The Shield. All of a sudden Hogan's music hits, & the crowd go's nuts. He gets beaten down too, & then Warrior's music hits! The crowd go's apeshit, & we get Cena, Hogan, & Warrior vs The Shield at Wrestlemania XXX. There HAVE been rumors of Warrior going into the HOF this year, & they are supposedly putting a new DVD out for him. Stranger things HAVE happened... My view on this is probably that this would make me mark out like never before, however, I'd love that during the match, the Cena face team is on top. As The Shield are backed by HHH he comes down to interfere in proceedings so his men win. During the melee he pedigrees the Warrior who completely no-sells it again and chases him to the back, leaving The Shield to win 3 on 2. I'll accept the job in creative now.....
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 2, 2014 14:01:58 GMT -5
I thought about this the other day. Imagine this: Cena's in the ring getting beat down by The Shield. All of a sudden Hogan's music hits, & the crowd go's nuts. He gets beaten down too, & then Warrior's music hits! The crowd go's apeshit, & we get Cena, Hogan, & Warrior vs The Shield at Wrestlemania XXX. There HAVE been rumors of Warrior going into the HOF this year, & they are supposedly putting a new DVD out for him. Stranger things HAVE happened... How did you get inside my nightmares?
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Post by Boo! on Jan 2, 2014 15:21:50 GMT -5
Yes, it's great for a nostalgic pop. But what happens when his nostalgic pop fades away and your left with him defeating Yokozuna, refusing to job to Bret, beating HBK, defeating Orton, putting himself all over TNA. Have him return and save Xaiver Woods from the 3 Man Band or something. Don't put him in the ring with potential stars of the future. Hogan only cares about one thing- Hulk Hogan... well that and his daughter... well his daughter's ass crack anyway. He didn't refuse to job to Bret at all. Bret bombed as champion causing Vince to have to pay out a huge contract to get Hogan to return. Do we really think he was desperate for the belt to return to Bret? Summerslam was set up as the 'USA vs Japan' for ages, the USS Intrepid was booked for weeks. Hogan falling out with Vince meant Luger was parcutted into that position. Bret wasn't and was never intended to by anywhere near the title scene. Hogan was plan a), Luger b), Bret (eventually by default once Luger didn't work) was plan c) He feuded with a commentator for a reason after Wrestlemania and it wasn't because Vince really, really wanted him as a top guy. In fact if it wasn't for Luger's declining popularity he wouldn't have been in the main event picture even by the following Wrestlemania. There is absolutely no logical way of connecting the dots to make the 'Hogan refused to job to Bret' story work. It's utter myth. Some of these Hogan stories are absurd. Like the one who he "held down" Mr Perfect who was supposed to have a title match at Wresltemania. Yeah - like Warrior vs Hogan was "plan B" There's no doubt he's done some egotistical things but the invention and twisting of reality, is at times mind boggling.
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Post by Toxik916 on Jan 2, 2014 18:56:54 GMT -5
I thought about this the other day. Imagine this: Cena's in the ring getting beat down by The Shield. All of a sudden Hogan's music hits, & the crowd go's nuts. He gets beaten down too, & then Warrior's music hits! The crowd go's apeshit, & we get Cena, Hogan, & Warrior vs The Shield at Wrestlemania XXX. There HAVE been rumors of Warrior going into the HOF this year, & they are supposedly putting a new DVD out for him. Stranger things HAVE happened... Take all of my money!
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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 2, 2014 18:58:01 GMT -5
I thought about this the other day. Imagine this: Cena's in the ring getting beat down by The Shield. All of a sudden Hogan's music hits, & the crowd go's nuts. He gets beaten down too, & then Warrior's music hits! The crowd go's apeshit, & we get Cena, Hogan, & Warrior vs The Shield at Wrestlemania XXX. There HAVE been rumors of Warrior going into the HOF this year, & they are supposedly putting a new DVD out for him. Stranger things HAVE happened... How did you get inside my nightmares? You can call me Dazzy Krueger. No, that sounds stupid. How 'bout Freddy Dazzer? Nope, even dumber. Let's go with Don't f***in Worry About It. Yea, that's the ticket!
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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 2, 2014 18:59:51 GMT -5
I thought about this the other day. Imagine this: Cena's in the ring getting beat down by The Shield. All of a sudden Hogan's music hits, & the crowd go's nuts. He gets beaten down too, & then Warrior's music hits! The crowd go's apeshit, & we get Cena, Hogan, & Warrior vs The Shield at Wrestlemania XXX. There HAVE been rumors of Warrior going into the HOF this year, & they are supposedly putting a new DVD out for him. Stranger things HAVE happened... Take all of my money! Ok. PayPal or Western Union?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 19:14:34 GMT -5
He needs to spend some time in NXT to get the TNA stink off him.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 2, 2014 19:25:17 GMT -5
I don't think WWE will build a walker accessible entrance ramp like TNA did. Plus remember how long it took Iron Shiek to get to the ring for the Gimmick Battle Royal at Wrestlemania? The show would be almost over by the time he got to the ring.
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Post by Woo on Jan 2, 2014 19:39:18 GMT -5
Yes, it's great for a nostalgic pop. But what happens when his nostalgic pop fades away and your left with him defeating Yokozuna, refusing to job to Bret, beating HBK, defeating Orton, putting himself all over TNA. Have him return and save Xaiver Woods from the 3 Man Band or something. Don't put him in the ring with potential stars of the future. Hogan only cares about one thing- Hulk Hogan... well that and his daughter... well his daughter's ass crack anyway. He didn't refuse to job to Bret at all. Bret bombed as champion causing Vince to have to pay out a huge contract to get Hogan to return. Do we really think he was desperate for the belt to return to Bret? Summerslam was set up as the 'USA vs Japan' for ages, the USS Intrepid was booked for weeks. Hogan falling out with Vince meant Luger was parcutted into that position. Bret wasn't and was never intended to by anywhere near the title scene. Hogan was plan a), Luger b), Bret (eventually by default once Luger didn't work) was plan c) He feuded with a commentator for a reason after Wrestlemania and it wasn't because Vince really, really wanted him as a top guy. In fact if it wasn't for Luger's declining popularity he wouldn't have been in the main event picture even by the following Wrestlemania. There is absolutely no logical way of connecting the dots to make the 'Hogan refused to job to Bret' story work. It's utter myth. Some of these Hogan stories are absurd. Like the one who he "held down" Mr Perfect who was supposed to have a title match at Wresltemania. Yeah - like Warrior vs Hogan was "plan B" There's no doubt he's done some egotistical things but the invention and twisting of reality, is at times mind boggling. Warrior was meant to face Hogan at Mania. The proof is the rumble. However Hogan supposedly nixed the plan of Perfect winning the rumble shortly before the show. I'm not sure Bret Hart wasn't a draw when you factor in the drug and sex scandals that would have turned off a lot of people. Didn't Bret say that Bret/Hogan was the plan? It's an easy story to believe as Hogan pretty much buries everybody on screen, so I imagine backstage he's even worse.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 2, 2014 19:43:20 GMT -5
If Hogan beats the Shield at Wrestlemania I'm giving up on the WWE. I simply despise that man. THANK YOU. Jesus, have we all forgotten who we're talking about here?? Yeah, Hulk Hogan, the most recognizable star in wrestling history. Keeping in mind that the Shield is about to break up and all three guys are fairly young, losing to Hogan in a match at Mania would easily be the biggest thing they've done so far.
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Post by Woo on Jan 2, 2014 20:02:18 GMT -5
Roman Reigns losing any kind of match to Hogan in 2013 would be a stupid move. A stable that has beaten down the Rock, Cena and the Undertaker should not be made to look weak against a relic from the past, especially one which contains someone who'll probably win a world title next year.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 2, 2014 20:06:43 GMT -5
Roman Reigns losing any kind of match to Hogan in 2013 would be a stupid move. A stable that has beaten down the Rock, Cena and the Undertaker should not be made to look weak against a relic from the past, especially one which contains someone who'll probably win a world title next year. Not really. That's the beauty of six man tags. People can "lose" without really losing. Roman Reigns doesn't have to be pinned. Rollins/Ambrose can eat the fall. Also, it's not like they're just losing to some old dude. They're losing to a superteam that features the biggest current star and the most recognizable star in history.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Jan 2, 2014 20:25:16 GMT -5
I don't think WWE will build a walker accessible entrance ramp like TNA did. Plus remember how long it took Iron Shiek to get to the ring for the Gimmick Battle Royal at Wrestlemania? The show would be almost over by the time he got to the ring. If Johnny managed to get a mobility scooter, I'm sure Hogan could get one too. Maybe a nice red & yellow Hoveround emblazoned with the Hulkster logo. "Whatcha gonna do, when Hulkamania rolls wild on you?"
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Post by Boo! on Jan 3, 2014 5:37:45 GMT -5
He didn't refuse to job to Bret at all. Bret bombed as champion causing Vince to have to pay out a huge contract to get Hogan to return. Do we really think he was desperate for the belt to return to Bret? Summerslam was set up as the 'USA vs Japan' for ages, the USS Intrepid was booked for weeks. Hogan falling out with Vince meant Luger was parcutted into that position. Bret wasn't and was never intended to by anywhere near the title scene. Hogan was plan a), Luger b), Bret (eventually by default once Luger didn't work) was plan c) He feuded with a commentator for a reason after Wrestlemania and it wasn't because Vince really, really wanted him as a top guy. In fact if it wasn't for Luger's declining popularity he wouldn't have been in the main event picture even by the following Wrestlemania. There is absolutely no logical way of connecting the dots to make the 'Hogan refused to job to Bret' story work. It's utter myth. Some of these Hogan stories are absurd. Like the one who he "held down" Mr Perfect who was supposed to have a title match at Wresltemania. Yeah - like Warrior vs Hogan was "plan B" There's no doubt he's done some egotistical things but the invention and twisting of reality, is at times mind boggling. Warrior was meant to face Hogan at Mania. The proof is the rumble. However Hogan supposedly nixed the plan of Perfect winning the rumble shortly before the show. I'm not sure Bret Hart wasn't a draw when you factor in the drug and sex scandals that would have turned off a lot of people. Didn't Bret say that Bret/Hogan was the plan? It's an easy story to believe as Hogan pretty much buries everybody on screen, so I imagine backstage he's even worse. Bret also compared himself to the Beatles in Europe and claims success for WWE's popularity there despite massive sellout shows before he became the top guy and massive sell-out shows after and many sellout European shows/tours that he wasn't even on. He also claims credit for drawing Summerslam 1992 despite the fact most tickets were sold before a single match was announced. Of course Bret would say the plan was everyone wanted him to be world champ except for that dastardly Hogan. Otherwise he'd be admitting the truth which was he was pulled from the spot at WM9 after drawing badly (Melzter even wrote that even give the downturn in the industry at the time, Hart still was a poor draw) and only got it back again after a number of initiatives/plans fell through. Let's be honest he only got the belt by default with Savage, Flair, Hogan, Warrior all leaving to going into semi-retirement.
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Post by BigBadZ on Jan 3, 2014 5:52:27 GMT -5
Cocaine-laced promo on how to download the app, or no buys
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Jan 3, 2014 6:05:21 GMT -5
I thought about this the other day. Imagine this: Cena's in the ring getting beat down by The Shield. All of a sudden Hogan's music hits, & the crowd go's nuts. He gets beaten down too, & then Warrior's music hits! The crowd go's apeshit, & we get Cena, Hogan, & Warrior vs The Shield at Wrestlemania XXX. There HAVE been rumors of Warrior going into the HOF this year, & they are supposedly putting a new DVD out for him. Stranger things HAVE happened... Jesus Christ, this is such a great idea. WM30, the biggest potential Wrestlemania of all-time, with a team of 3 huge megastars vs one of the hottest young teams in a years, The Shield. You get the still fresh and not overdone appearances of classic rivals Warrior and Hogan, you get the very alike duo of Cena and Hogan teaming together, and you have a match that lets both Hogan and Warrior go in short bursts, with Cena and The Shield carrying the workload. It doesn't overexpose all the weaknesses an aging Hogan and Warrior have, which is a main factor in why they wouldn't do as well in solo matches. I absolutely love it. The Shield are breaking up anyway, and the rub they'd get just from working a match that big would be worth having them lose. And it'd give them a reason to break-up. It'd be like 3 Wrestlemania moments in one: Shield break-up, Hogan and Warrior's last match, and the appeal of the mega team of Warrior/Hogan/Cena at Wrestlemania 30. It'd make that show feel so special, and it gives Cena a break from one of the solo main events. f*** GOLDBERG, PAY WARRIOR. I want that on a t-shirt.
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Post by Legion on Jan 3, 2014 7:32:52 GMT -5
I thought about this the other day. Imagine this: Cena's in the ring getting beat down by The Shield. All of a sudden Hogan's music hits, & the crowd go's nuts. He gets beaten down too, & then Warrior's music hits! The crowd go's apeshit, & we get Cena, Hogan, & Warrior vs The Shield at Wrestlemania XXX. There HAVE been rumors of Warrior going into the HOF this year, & they are supposedly putting a new DVD out for him. Stranger things HAVE happened... If you can't have nostalgia at an anniversary Wrestlemania, when can you have it? I say wheel out Hogan, Warrior and any other top level guy from the dawn of Wrestlemania who can still go and have them help Cena do anything. It wont matter to anyone except the people who take wrestling far too seriously and for everyone else, it's a pop of the night moment of epic magnitude.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jan 3, 2014 14:38:53 GMT -5
How about this:
Royal Rumble 2014
Entrant #1 (Jack Swagger) comes out & is waiting in the ring for Roberts to announce #2.
Real American hits. Out struts Hogan & Jimmy Hart, with the Hulkster doing his air guitar.
He gets in the ring & does the "YOU" point. Big boot. Tosses Swagger.
Then for the next 60 minutes Hogan decimates everyone that comes out & wins the Rumble setting up a title shot against Cena at Mania.
Admit it. You'd mark the f*** out.
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