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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 2, 2014 15:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by Legion on Jan 2, 2014 15:09:42 GMT -5
On the one hand, I'd appreciate the stain being wiped away from Iron Man's premier foe by having them reveal that the villain of the third film really was just a rich moron with a hard on for Tony Stark and that the real Mandarin existed.
On the other, doing a 15 minute thing that basically trashes your third film in a franchise, and one that is part of the second wave of your films counting down to the next Avengers, to me, seems dumb.
Why approve the fake Mandarin stuff only to do this? One thing that seeing Marvel's current higher ups interacting with fans on other forums has shown me is that nerd rage and fan backlash means f*** all to them, so I dont think it'd just be to appease the small crowd of people who care about something like this.
Unless they have RDJ signed up for a secret Iron Man 4, leave it as is, however nasty that may taste for most comic book fans, and move on.
For my money, this is just a comedy thing - 'What Trevor did next' and is simply riding the hype and hope of the comic fans posting about it
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Post by anticonscience on Jan 2, 2014 16:42:49 GMT -5
nah, I'm with the writer of the article having a feeling that the title "All Hail the King" has to deal with the situation regarding who is ruling Asgard at the end of Thor2
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Post by Legion on Jan 2, 2014 16:49:56 GMT -5
It would be a departure for the One Shots to actually feature a character from the film they are attached to, not to mention that Ben Kingsley said he was back filming for Marvel a few months ago, which would make sense if he was getting a One Shot and no sense for anything else.....
Good old Marvel and their mysteries
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 2, 2014 17:15:07 GMT -5
I would agree that somehow 'disavowing' the Mandarin from IM3 probably ain't the way they're gonna go. I would be surprised at least
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 21:34:11 GMT -5
I actually loved The Mandarin twist and it works if they're never doing another solo Iron Man film. I think this will be just a little silly short about Trevor becoming a big celebrity due to the events of IM3. The one-shots usually don't involve anything that's integral to the overall MCU.
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Post by Legion on Jan 9, 2014 11:59:34 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 9, 2014 12:05:38 GMT -5
I liked the twist, and as I've said since "The Mandarin" was an idea more than a person in the movies they could easily replace him with someone closer to the comics if they wanted to. Since a man can be killed an idea can't.
As for the trouble with him being arrested and charged as the mandarin... do you think the people at large would think that people in the world would accept that this legendary terrorist leader is this drunk actor the authorities drug out? There would at the very least be conspiracy theories for years that it's a government cover up and the real mandarin went into hiding.
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Post by Jiren on Jan 9, 2014 19:20:40 GMT -5
As long as it fixes the mess "Iron Man 3" was then cool.
hated that f***ing film
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 16, 2014 11:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 26, 2014 23:48:40 GMT -5
So now having seen it, All Hail the King is pretty sweet. More Trevor hilarity, a hilarious Eighties pilot he starred in that didn't get picked up and {Spoiler} We find out the Ten Rings are still around, there's a REAL Mandarin, and an operative breaks Trevor out of prison to take him to the real guy, who's pissed that Trevor appropriated his name. It ends there just before the break-out, so we never (and probably never will) see the REAL Mandarin Fun stuff. Best line is when interviewer mentions that Trevor has pissed people off and he says "you don't have to tell me love, I've seen the internet messageboards..brutal." |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 26, 2014 23:53:20 GMT -5
So now having seen it, All Hail the King is pretty sweet. More Trevor hilarity, a hilarious Eighties pilot he starred in that didn't get picked up and {Spoiler}{Spoiler} We find out the Ten Rings are still around, there's a REAL Mandarin, and an operative breaks Trevor out of prison to take him to the real guy, who's pissed that Trevor appropriated his name. It ends there just before the break-out, so we never (and probably never will) see the REAL Mandarin Fun stuff. Best line is when interviewer mentions that Trevor has pissed people off and he says "you don't have to tell me love, I've seen the internet messageboards..brutal." Given the potential money involved, I'm sure they can convince RDJ to do Iron Man 4 and use this as the premise. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 26, 2014 23:55:29 GMT -5
I honestly wanna see Living Laser as an Iron Man villain before revisiting anything.
Probably just me though.
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Post by Goldenbane on Feb 27, 2014 0:26:26 GMT -5
I honestly wanna see Living Laser as an Iron Man villain before revisiting anything. Probably just me though. Eh, I know it wasn't quite exact...but I kinda thought the guys in Iron Man 3 were all Living Lasers, since they could all easily damage every armor Tony had. |
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Post by The IWC WORLD Champion on Feb 27, 2014 2:54:40 GMT -5
The last film came off making Iron Man look weak.
They guy had him if it were not for outside interference from Starks valet (who incidentally had superpowers thanks to Val Kilmers own cock up, so inevitably he beat himself).
Now Stark has been dropped to the midcard.
But it does make me wonder if an all powerful indestructible guy who can turn himself into lava was not deemed enough of a threat from the rest of the Avengers. Maybe they are building them for a split and going to push Hawkeye since he is the best of the Avengers and has the most charisma. But I guess Sam Jackson will try to hold him down and put himself over the new Bourne guy.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 27, 2014 3:40:35 GMT -5
The last film came off making Iron Man look weak. They guy had him if it were not for outside interference from Starks valet (who incidentally had superpowers thanks to Val Kilmers own cock up, so inevitably he beat himself). Now Stark has been dropped to the midcard. But it does make me wonder if an all powerful indestructible guy who can turn himself into lava was not deemed enough of a threat from the rest of the Avengers. Maybe they are building them for a split and going to push Hawkeye since he is the best of the Avengers and has the most charisma. But I guess Sam Jackson will try to hold him down and put himself over the new Bourne guy.  |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 27, 2014 4:13:09 GMT -5
Okay, just watched it. Kingsley was great, but the best bit? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Justin f***ing Hammer, and he's got a prison bitch!   |
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Post by Muskrat on Feb 27, 2014 8:54:17 GMT -5
Okay, just watched it. Kingsley was great, but the best bit? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Justin f***ing Hammer, and he's got a prison bitch! Oh man, did I laugh at that. Didn't see it coming at all |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 27, 2014 10:46:24 GMT -5
Okay, just watched it. Kingsley was great, but the best bit? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Justin f***ing Hammer, and he's got a prison bitch! I thought All Hail The King was great.Kingsley was hilarious and while I enjoyed the Mandarin twist, I get why they fiddled with it here...and then the stinger hit and I just lost it. Simply amazing way to end it. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 27, 2014 13:55:25 GMT -5
Good step in the right direction. Now can we get a one-shot for Guardians or Winter Soldier's DVD release where Darcy suffers the worst death possible?
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