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Post by kamero00 on Jan 5, 2014 1:53:16 GMT -5
They're a cult from the south. And? Bray's clearly more of the Charles Manson/Jim Jones mold, and the whole cult has very little to do with where they're from at all. agree to disagree. They come off as a redneck cult from the south to me. In fact I think JBL said that exact same thing, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Post by Chip on Jan 5, 2014 1:54:25 GMT -5
And? Bray's clearly more of the Charles Manson/Jim Jones mold, and the whole cult has very little to do with where they're from at all. But they don't have the refined, clean look of "Northerners" like John Cena...or something... Kane's already covering that base.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 5, 2014 2:06:04 GMT -5
B/c a vast majority of people who are not from the south, do not find this cult of rednecks interesting. Or at the very lest, interesting enough that it should be burying the most over face It's either this interesting angle or weeks of Bryan making the Wyatts his personal jobbers, which benefits no one. "Personal jobbers" is all the Wyatts SHOULD be for Bryan. There's no reason why this feud should be going on as long as it has. He should be right back in the mix against the Authority chasing the title.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 2:16:38 GMT -5
And? Bray's clearly more of the Charles Manson/Jim Jones mold, and the whole cult has very little to do with where they're from at all. agree to disagree. They come off as a redneck cult from the south to me. In fact I think JBL said that exact same thing, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't think anyone disagrees that they're from the south. The thing is, being "from the south" isn't their gimmick, the gimmick is that they're a cult, so where they're from is irrelevant. I can see how it would be different if they were like the Freebirds, for instance, where being southern is a major part of their character. It's kind of like saying that CM Punk doesn't appeal to people who aren't from Chicago. Yeah, it's there, but it's not all there is to him.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 5, 2014 2:26:22 GMT -5
Why are people SO f***ing angry over this? Daniel joining the Wyatts is 100 times more interesting than him dragging out the tired DB vs. Orton/Authority stuff. I think people are just scared and paranoid that this storyline could do permanent damage to Bryan. It's the first time In a long time that a main event level face ever "gave up" and willingly joined the heels. That part is what makes the entire feud extremely interesting to me and why I'm giving it a shot. I think people are paranoid that if it's badly handled it could lead to Bryan being labelled as a quitter by the general audience with everyone kinda giving up on him for giving up. There's definitely that possibility and I don't blame anyone for being scared of that but I think there's so many more chances for it be something really cool then there are for it to go badly. Here's the thing... Has any other main event face (yes, Bryan is a main event face, and has been for months) ever fought as hard as Bryan has, just to keep his head above water? First he's got everyone in a position of power telling him he's not worthy enough to be their champion, and then meddling in his matches to keep him from proving them wrong. Then he's had this backwoods psycho Wyatt and his monsters coming after him for weeks and weeks, offering him sanctuary between attacks. And between all that, he's been wrestling balls to the wall pretty much every single night against guys up and down the roster, often more than once per night and often against more than one guy, and for what reward? To go through all that again the next night? The guy has NOTHING, both physically and mentally, left to fight with. It's hard to look at this as just the narrative when the narrative draws so much of itself from outside factors, and as such people let those outside factors cloud their perspective, but I try to do so.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Jan 5, 2014 2:37:37 GMT -5
WWE should never start any angle without first working out how it's going to end, and that end should always get the people involved over, especially a rising star. Their booking just strikes me as being made up week to week, and that's not entirely the fault of creative since Vince is notoriously fickle, and he's an out of touch carny dick. His mentality seems to be protect the established stars, mainly HHH, Stephanie and Cena. Everyone else seems to be disposable. I remember when Vince wasn't fickle. Can you imagine if he had Andre going over Hogan at Wrestlemania 3?
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jan 5, 2014 2:54:42 GMT -5
About a year or so ago, I was telling my brothers that I should start wearing a janitor's jumpsuit just as a fashion statement, and that it wouldn't be long before it became all the rage. Now I officially have celebrity endorsements for that look and it's day is definitely on it's way.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 5, 2014 3:36:02 GMT -5
It's either this interesting angle or weeks of Bryan making the Wyatts his personal jobbers, which benefits no one. "Personal jobbers" is all the Wyatts SHOULD be for Bryan. There's no reason why this feud should be going on as long as it has. He should be right back in the mix against the Authority chasing the title. Honestly, I'd rather have this than a thousand more matches with Bryan vs 1, 2, or all 3 members of the Shield then more Orton matches with screwy retarded endings. They ran that into the ground in the fall, change it up a little.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 5, 2014 4:01:32 GMT -5
"Personal jobbers" is all the Wyatts SHOULD be for Bryan. There's no reason why this feud should be going on as long as it has. He should be right back in the mix against the Authority chasing the title. Honestly, I'd rather have this than a thousand more matches with Bryan vs 1, 2, or all 3 members of the Shield then more Orton matches with screwy retarded endings. They ran that into the ground in the fall, change it up a little. Then there should've been a few more heels in the Authority's ranks for Bryan to work with so that he wouldn't be constantly working with the Shield. Barrett seemed to be in the Authority's pocket before the work visa issues came up. Ryback and Axel need something of substance to do post-Heyman. Brad Maddox is a wrestler. Use him. Even if it's just a glorified jobber squash, use him. Big Show should've turned heel on Bryan instead of trying to have him usurp Bryan's rightful spot. And what happened with Random-Alex-Riley-in-a-Suit? While I personally think that his in-ring quality will regress if he goes heel, Riley would be a solid addition to the Authority if they presented him as a fan favorite tweener who's allied with the heels, akin to RVD during the Invasion. And let's not forget turning Mark Henry face just for the sake of putting That's What I Do on a t-shirt and giving Brock Lesnar someone big to lift. The Wyatt program should've gone no further than Survivor Series at most. Bryan should've vanquished the monsters and moved on.
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Post by audiencewatching on Jan 5, 2014 5:33:57 GMT -5
....I bet Stone cold would've done this at his peak...oh wait
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 5:47:06 GMT -5
Personally, I don't understand why people have been complaining for years about the lack of interesting storylines, and now that we have something unique in the form of this DBD/Wyatt feud, people are still complaining and saying we should go back to Daniel Bryan vs. Authority....despite the fact we got three months of that already.
I generally hate saying 'lets just see where this goes guys' because the WWE has a poor track record of keeping storylines such as this interesting and relevant, but this one time I'm willing to say it. For all we know they could cut the angle short and Bryan could be out of the Family again by the time the Rumble comes around.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 5, 2014 6:59:35 GMT -5
The attire suggest that this will lead to a boiler room brawl between Bryan and Rowan, the winner is the first person to fix the boiler.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 5, 2014 7:00:29 GMT -5
Eh, it looks pretty dumb. He'd look better in Harper-ish gear, rather than the jumpsuit. Maybe it's a ranking thing, jumpsuit is the starting attire for Wyatt-dom. Harper got to upgrade to a stained wifebeater (how charming that a style of undershirt is named after domestic violence), Bryan's got to earn his way out of the janitor attire. I honestly think it's just so he can be the mirror of Rowan. Rowan is meant to be a representation of the monster that Bryan could become, a mindless sheep controlled by the whispers of a demon. Eventually Bryan will have to face what he's become/becoming and reject it. It has to be intentional for them to bother with it, other wise they'd be lazy and just have him wear his usual attire and a sheep mask from the merch stand. actually Cole gave an explanation for the mask according to Rowan. I always agreed with the sheep thing and thought it could lead to an amusing scene where someone knocks Bray out, and puts the mask on him and he freaks out But according to Cole Rowan likes the imagery of the sheep because it basically feels gentle
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Post by mrjl on Jan 5, 2014 7:06:31 GMT -5
Just read over on the Cageside seats Twitter that Bryan; -Was introduced as "Daniel Wyatt" - worked a cage match against Bray. And by worked I mean he took a straight, no offense beat down & was pinned. The rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper... okay, Daniel Wyatt is stupid and setting up a cage for that. Fans should have been pelting the cage with trash
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Post by bootytea on Jan 5, 2014 7:12:04 GMT -5
Goes in the category of red hot faces getting stupid heel turns ala Rikishi, Ahmed Johnson, Ryback etc. How any part of that segment makes people think he turned heel mystifies me, even more so the fact that a lot of people think the same as you did. Perhaps they can go the brainwash route, but it doesn't make sense how it happened. If he truly was brainwashed, why did he go through the motions of the match? All that segment taught us is that Daniel Bryan gave up which is a heelish thing to do. This is absolutely hilarious. Goes in the category of red hot faces getting stupid heel turns ala Rikishi, Ahmed Johnson, Ryback etc. no, this goes in the category of faces stupidly teasing joining their enemies and turning on them, like Cena and Nexus and Punk and the New Blood The only time it's actually entertaining is when it's instantly revealed as a ploy. DDP and Sting teasing joining the nWo and attacking as soon as people's backs were turned. The New Age Outlaws with the Corporation , the Dudleyz with Right to Censor Hopefully so. Something like this could kill Daniel Bryan's momentum though because he is just getting really over. With guys like DDP and Sting, they were super over already so teasing a heel turn would not hurt them at all.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 5, 2014 7:20:18 GMT -5
I think Bryan counts as super over
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 5, 2014 7:27:56 GMT -5
...something something burying Bryan something something...
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 5, 2014 7:32:18 GMT -5
I see the build now. Bryan continues working with the Wyatts, making wrestlers tap and fixing leaky pipes and such. He wins the Rumble to get the shot at Orton at Wrestlemania. Orton gets paranoid about Bryan's new insanity and ability to perform high-quality service and low low prices, so he dumps the Authority and brings back his own creepy mechanic mentor... Wrestlemania is headlined by Bryan vs Orton in the first ever Service Station Showdown.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 7:33:07 GMT -5
This is dumb. They could have used Kofi or Dolph for this but nope they use the hottest guy in the company. f***ing idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 7:41:15 GMT -5
....I bet Stone cold would've done this at his peak...oh wait yeah, it's not like Austin ever falsely joined an evil group at the peak of his popularity....
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