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Post by shaker on Jan 7, 2014 9:03:37 GMT -5
Ryback is starting to hit Miz and Mr. Kennedy levels of dangerous in the ring. Sadly, it looks like they want to give him an IC title shot soon; hopefully that's been kiboshed after this latest debacle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 9:08:41 GMT -5
I like how Ryback is taking the blame and not the guy who throws himself into walls and retaining barriers and flies around the ring like a drunken goose.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 7, 2014 9:25:38 GMT -5
I like how Ryback is taking the blame and not the guy who throws himself into walls and retaining barriers and flies around the ring like a drunken goose. I'd be more annoyed at how Ziggler will now somehow get labelled as injury-prone, despite these concussions (one, maybe both, of which were not his fault) being the only injuries he's had in his WWE tenure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 9:37:53 GMT -5
I like how Ryback is taking the blame and not the guy who throws himself into walls and retaining barriers and flies around the ring like a drunken goose. I'd be more annoyed at how Ziggler will now somehow get labelled as injury-prone, despite these concussions (one, maybe both, of which were not his fault) being the only injuries he's had in his WWE tenure. He may not have been injury-prone before, but he's on the cusp of being injury-prone now. Two major concussions in the span of...what, 9 months? As often as all these guys get stiffed in the ring, whether it's happenstance or progressive wear-and-tear, it's happening to him more than it is to other guys. Being prone to injury isn't something that he was born with, but if he doesn't give his body adequate time to recover when he's taking all these crazy bumps all the time, he is leaving himself open to these sort of accidents happening.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 7, 2014 9:42:07 GMT -5
I'd be more annoyed at how Ziggler will now somehow get labelled as injury-prone, despite these concussions (one, maybe both, of which were not his fault) being the only injuries he's had in his WWE tenure. He may not have been injury-prone before, but he's on the cusp of being injury-prone now. Two major concussions in the span of...what, 9 months? As often as all these guys get stiffed in the ring, whether it's happenstance or progressive wear-and-tear, it's happening to him more than it is to other guys. Being prone to injury isn't something that he was born with, but if he doesn't give his body adequate time to recover when he's taking all these crazy bumps all the time, he is leaving himself open to these sort of accidents happening. True. The important thing is that, these days, he'll be "allowed" to recover thanks to the growing knowledge that people have about concussion effects. If it were 10 years ago, there'd be a fair chance he'd be right back out there tomorrow for the Main Event/SmackDown tapings.
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Post by Bootista on Jan 7, 2014 9:45:36 GMT -5
I like how Ryback is taking the blame and not the guy who throws himself into walls and retaining barriers and flies around the ring like a drunken goose. Yes, Let's blame the one who's injured, not the idiot Who Stiffed him in the first place.
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Post by pepsitwist on Jan 7, 2014 9:49:56 GMT -5
Utterly reckless from Ryback. Hope he gets punished.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jan 7, 2014 9:50:18 GMT -5
I like how Ryback is taking the blame and not the guy who throws himself into walls and retaining barriers and flies around the ring like a drunken goose. Yes, Let's blame the one who's injured, not the idiot Who Stiffed him in the first place. Yeah let's blame someone who we may not even know if he did something wrong to cause it instead! That's the internet way!
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Post by pepsitwist on Jan 7, 2014 9:52:58 GMT -5
Ryback's stiff clothesline was the cause of the concussion. Ziggler is blameless here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 9:55:08 GMT -5
He may not have been injury-prone before, but he's on the cusp of being injury-prone now. Two major concussions in the span of...what, 9 months? As often as all these guys get stiffed in the ring, whether it's happenstance or progressive wear-and-tear, it's happening to him more than it is to other guys. Being prone to injury isn't something that he was born with, but if he doesn't give his body adequate time to recover when he's taking all these crazy bumps all the time, he is leaving himself open to these sort of accidents happening. True. The important thing is that, these days, he'll be "allowed" to recover thanks to the growing knowledge that people have about concussion effects. If it were 10 years ago, there'd be a fair chance he'd be right back out there tomorrow for the Main Event/SmackDown tapings. Yeah, I agree, and that's something about current WWE that I do really respect. They actually care about workers' physical health, at least, to the point where they make sure there's no liabilities when someone does get hurt. Here's hoping that they give him some time off and let him relax and refresh. Maybe, when he comes back, he wrestles a little more safely and his coworkers are a little more careful with him. I don't know who's "at fault" in this case but what I do know is that if he suffers another concussion in the near future he'll probably have some serious residual complications. Him getting back in the ring be damned, Ziggler's health comes first here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 10:00:55 GMT -5
I like how Ryback is taking the blame and not the guy who throws himself into walls and retaining barriers and flies around the ring like a drunken goose. Yes, Let's blame the one who's injured, not the idiot Who Stiffed him in the first place. In a thread yesterday, I posted about how I did not like when someone says something and it is taken out of context and magnified by another poster. You liked that post. Yet you are doing that exact thing now. I did not blame Ryback. I did not blame Ziggler. I am merely pointing out that Ryback is preemptively taking all the blame and not Ziggler who throws his body into his selling. This isn't like in 2007 when Victoria kicked Candice in the face and broke her nose. You can't break your nose selling a kick to the face. But if you fly backwards too fast, land awkwardly, etc. on your head after getting walloped, you may be equally (or more) responsible for the injury happening.
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Post by BigWill on Jan 7, 2014 10:13:57 GMT -5
Has anyone that's blaming Ryback even seen the match? It's amazing how it's only after Ryback's fallen from the top that people are talking about how reckless he is. I remember people here marking out anytime he'd hit one of his stiff clotheslines on a jobber. Though I guess also because it's Ziggler, that a lot of people feel the need to blame Ryback as well.
Sin Cara gives Del Rio a concussion, people are happy to see Del Rio out of action. Ryback "might" have given Ziggler a concussion, he's dangerous in the ring and should be released. It seems to be that people are letting their personal feelings get in the way, and not looking at the situation objectively.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 7, 2014 10:19:51 GMT -5
okay, CARELESSNESS is officially not even a joke anymore. f***ing Ryback...
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 7, 2014 10:25:26 GMT -5
Has anyone that's blaming Ryback even seen the match? No (because it hasn't even aired yet), and I doubt 90% of us here ever will given it will be on Superstars.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 10:37:40 GMT -5
Match hasn't even aired yet. We don't even know if he suffered a concussion from a clothesline from Ryback. Hell it could of been something else entirely different and they are using the clothesline as a kayfabe explanation just like how WWE said Orton caused Cena's torn Pec in 2007 and not Mr. Kennedy. Lets wait and see before we jump to any conclusions.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jan 7, 2014 11:03:43 GMT -5
One guy has a record of a couple of injured opponents, one guy only gets injured through the fault of his opponents. Yeah, you're right guys, we should totally be blaming the injured guy.
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Post by 2 Cold Scorkum on Jan 7, 2014 11:06:34 GMT -5
Has anyone that's blaming Ryback even seen the match? No (because it hasn't even aired yet), and I doubt 90% of us here ever will given it will be on Superstars. ah, this makes it much easier to jump to conclusions.
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Post by BigWill on Jan 7, 2014 12:02:29 GMT -5
One guy has a record of a couple of injured opponents, one guy only gets injured through the fault of his opponents. Yeah, you're right guys, we should totally be blaming the injured guy. Who has Ryback injured before? And no one's saying blame Ziggler. Just that there is no point in jumping to conclusions when you don't even have the full story.
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Post by metylerca on Jan 7, 2014 12:05:30 GMT -5
Damn Ryback and his popcorn muscles!
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jan 7, 2014 12:18:55 GMT -5
One guy has a record of a couple of injured opponents, one guy only gets injured through the fault of his opponents. Yeah, you're right guys, we should totally be blaming the injured guy. Who has Ryback injured before? And no one's saying blame Ziggler. Just that there is no point in jumping to conclusions when you don't even have the full story. Cena had an injury in a match against Ryback, not to mention Punk and Bryan (two nearly with nearly impeccable injury history) were both nearly injured in horribly botched spots. I'm not saying anyone is at blame, I just think the fact that Ziggler has "throwing himself against walls, etc." for years with very little injury yet seems to be getting a lot heat for people here for being hurt is absurd. The dude has done a lot worse to himself than a clothesline bump and was just fine but the known walking botch machine that we call Ryback is getting a pass from the same people. As said, the match hasn't happened yet so we can't say who's to blame but it seems way more likely that the meathead that everyone can see works stiffly is the cause of the (accidental) injury that seems to be the direct result of getting nailed in the head than the guy that's pretty much perfected over the top bumping. Let's not forget, the first concussion that people keep citing was the result of Swagger hauling off and kicking him the face, not falling down dramatically.
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