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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 17, 2014 9:56:58 GMT -5
One of the things people forget since it's been so long is that the McMahon royal rumble and title wins WERE bashed pretty heavily when they happened. A lot of folks online absolutely hated them. It's faded a bit since it pretty much turned out for the best but at the time, phew, lot of people were mad. Ya, fans, wrestlers, writers, it seemed damn near everyone had an issue with those moves at the time, especially when Vince won the WWF Title |
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jan 17, 2014 16:25:37 GMT -5
The OP left off Hornswoggle getting the cruiserweight belt and ending the division. That one sucked the most for me as a fan. Sure, Arquette and Russo winning the WCW title were both worse probably, but I was done with WCW by then anyway.
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Post by madness50 on Jan 17, 2014 22:44:01 GMT -5
Russo was a dickhead and he still is a dickhead. The guy had some good ideas at times, but he acted like an asshole and he was rightfully hated for his obnoxious behavior. I could never understand what he was saying half the time anyway, even some friends of mine from New York had trouble understanding his voice and accent. I was absolutely embarrassed to watch WCW when he was in charge.
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Post by Mac on Jan 17, 2014 23:13:44 GMT -5
The title reigns are the tip of the iceberg with Russo. The fact WCW programming was unwatchable falls on him. Look at the clip posted earlier for example. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ON ANY LEVEL. Who the hell was it suppose to appeal to? The smarks knew it was BS, the casual fans were just confused to what happened, and the announcers who for all time treated what we were watching on TV as legit all of a sudden just seem to casually let us all know that what we're watching right now is scripted. Huh? It's just throngs and throngs of overbooked slop piling up. Theres too many crappy moments to point out, so people use the shitcanning of the world title as a prime example.
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Post by SOR on Jan 17, 2014 23:21:26 GMT -5
Russo was a dickhead and he still is a dickhead. The guy had some good ideas at times, but he acted like an asshole and he was rightfully hated for his obnoxious behavior. I could never understand what he was saying half the time anyway, even some friends of mine from New York had trouble understanding his voice and accent. I was absolutely embarrassed to watch WCW when he was in charge. I'm Australian and I have zero issue understanding Russo. |
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Post by Glitch on Jan 17, 2014 23:23:00 GMT -5
Because his writing sucks. And he further drove the nails into WCW's coffin(in a very bad way).
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 17, 2014 23:38:27 GMT -5
Russo had three main problem when he was in charge of WCW -
1. He had no attention span. He would actually come up with pretty good ideas at times, ideas that could translate into long-term money makers. But in his obsession to keep everything surprising and have constant swerves and such, within weeks most of those good ideas were either prematurely blown off, dropped completely or bogged down with so much extraneous crap that the original idea is all but forgotten about. The original Tank Abbott-Goldberg feud was a good example of this. A month of great build that's blown off in a ninety second match on free TV because Russo lost interest in it.
2. People like to say he couldn't differentiate his good ideas from his bad ideas. While this is true, it's also a problem he's shared with every promoter since the beginning of time. Russo's bigger problem is his refusal to accept that he could have a bad idea. Before Russo came along Dusty Rhodes was pro wrestling's patron saint of bad ideas. But if you bring up one of these ideas to Dusty nowadays he'll just shrug his shoulders, say "I thought it would work" and move on to something else. If you bring Russo's bad ideas up to him, he'll talk about how it was a genius idea that us lowly fans couldn't understand, and then pull out laundry list of names of the people who he believes screwed up his original vision of the idea. He can never just take responsibility for his mistakes.
3. He insisted on centering everything around himself while nobody really cared about him as a character. An on-air authority figure is supposed to generate some kind of heat or sympathy or something. Jack Tunney could do this and Jack Tunney legally qualified as the most boring man in the world. All Russo could get was apathy. When a heel authority figure makes a heel authority figure announcement, you're supposed to be begging for the hero to come out and kick his ass. With Russo you just wanted him to finish up and leave. And the less people cared about him, the harder he pushed himself, the more he got himself in feuds and angles, the more centered the company around him. He just couldn't accept that nobody saw him as "The Real Vince McMahon" and tried harder and harder to prove it to everyone, failing every time.
All of his other quirks we like to tease him on I think could've eventually found WCW an audience. Not an audience that would've rivaled the WWF at the time, but a solid, sustainable audience. But as long as he had these three faults then his WCW run was always doomed to end in failure.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 17, 2014 23:53:57 GMT -5
2. People like to say he couldn't differentiate his good ideas from his bad ideas. While this is true, it's also a problem he's shared with every promoter since the beginning of time. Russo's bigger problem is his refusal to accept that he could have a bad idea. Before Russo came along Dusty Rhodes was pro wrestling's patron saint of bad ideas. But if you bring up one of these ideas to Dusty nowadays he'll just shrug his shoulders, say "I thought it would work" and move on to something else. If you bring Russo's bad ideas up to him, he'll talk about how it was a genius idea that us lowly fans couldn't understand, and then pull out laundry list of names of the people who he believes screwed up his original vision of the idea. He can never just take responsibility for his mistakes. To cooberate that I saw a legends discussion where they were talking about Halloween Havoc Dusty started telling this story about how he was asleep and dreamt about this match that had him wake up in a cold sweat of terror and how awesome it was and started writing it down... it was the chamber of horrors match... Dusty said he was watching from the back and realized pretty quickly that this was a terrible idea and didn't work anywhere near as well as it did in his dream... and I think even apologized to the camera for it. |
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Post by Jiren on Jan 18, 2014 0:09:22 GMT -5
Off topic somewhat, I know we shit on bad ideas but I'd loved to have seen Disco Inferno's ideas. Such as
- Saucer men from mars
- The Invisible man
- Evil Architect "Bill Ding"
Just foe the sheer absurd ness of them
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Post by 67 more on Jan 24, 2014 17:28:11 GMT -5
Russo was a dickhead and he still is a dickhead. The guy had some good ideas at times, but he acted like an asshole and he was rightfully hated for his obnoxious behavior. I could never understand what he was saying half the time anyway, even some friends of mine from New York had trouble understanding his voice and accent. I was absolutely embarrassed to watch WCW when he was in charge. I'm Australian and I have zero issue understanding Russo. I'm British and have no problem understanding his accent. |
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