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Post by ratetankmark on Feb 8, 2014 11:00:18 GMT -5
If a Marvel vs. DC confrontation between two of their biggest guns were to take place in a pure fight, who'd come away with the win and who would be lying broken on the floor?
My money's on Juggernaut to run through Superman like he does with everything else.
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Post by ICBM on Feb 8, 2014 11:06:00 GMT -5
Juggernaut because $&@/ DC
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 8, 2014 11:13:01 GMT -5
Did Superman give you a super wedgie at any point, Rank? Just asking, you seem to make a lot of hate threads about him.
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Post by ratetankmark on Feb 8, 2014 11:20:51 GMT -5
Did Superman give you a super wedgie at any point, Rank? Just asking, you seem to make a lot of hate threads about him. I don't hate the guy, I just don't like his code of ethics and there are a few other heroes I like more like Batman and Captain Britain for example, I still prefer him to The Flash and Green Lantern. |
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 8, 2014 11:30:01 GMT -5
Superman, and it's not even close. It doesn't matter if you're an irresistible force if you can never hit your target, and Superman laughs at Juggernaut's max speed. The only possibility that it'd be an actual physical fight would be if Juggernaut started rampaging through a city, and then it's not really a 'pure fight'. Beyond that, Superman would easily be able to avoid anything he did since Juggernaut can't fly and is slow compared to him.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Feb 8, 2014 11:30:19 GMT -5
Fight kind of already happened in DC vs Marvel #1. It only lasted one panel, but the Big S looked superior.
Based on their powersets and history, an actual comic fight between should be an eternal stalemate. Superman shouldn't be able to hurt Juggernaut and Juggs (tee-hee) would never be able to land a hit on Supes.
Edit: Scratch that. Actually, Juggernaut's force-field would sap Superman's momentum from him, making him a sitting duck, but Juggernaut lack the offensive power-output to hurt Superman, so still, stalemate.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 8, 2014 11:33:52 GMT -5
Juggernaut can't really do anything Kal hasn't faced before. Doomsday was as much, if not more a threat.
Worse comes to worst, Supes could fly him into orbit and leave him. Being unstoppable is useless in vast expanses of space.
They briefly met in Marvel vs DC. All punched Jugs in the head. Then was whisked away to different universe before a real fight.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 12:35:47 GMT -5
Superman would outsmart him, likely trapping him somewhere. If Spider-Man can do that, so can Superman.
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Post by Legion on Feb 8, 2014 12:36:45 GMT -5
Does Superman still have the magic weakness thing?
Because Juggsy's powers come from a magic crystal/entity thing
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 8, 2014 12:40:08 GMT -5
The Speed Force has been shown not to cross universes, so it's possible Cyttorak's magic wouldn't work in the DCU or that Kal would be invulnerable to magic in the MU entirely.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 12:44:51 GMT -5
Superman seems to be vulnerable to magic but not necessarily weak against it, depending on how he's written. I remember a discussion here about who would win in a fight between Superman and Thor, with the idea that, if Superman is weak against magic, Thor would dispatch him with ease. Then people brought up that magic can effect Superman but that it's not like it's a crippling weakness. Mr. Mxyzptik causes him a bunch of problems but he isn't exactly killing Superman with his magic.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Feb 8, 2014 12:45:22 GMT -5
Superman.
He has the powers and the backstage pull.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 8, 2014 12:45:52 GMT -5
Does Superman still have the magic weakness thing? Because Juggsy's powers come from a magic crystal/entity thing It's not a weakness as much as it normal vulnerability (at least, that's how I always took it). Kryptonite is a weakness, being in it's presence hurts him. He's just not invulnerable against magic. And I don't really know if Cytorrak is technically magic (I'm not really up on X-men), I just thought it was it's some sort of god-granted power. Then again, Juggernaut doesn't shoot out magic or anything that I know of, he's just enhanced by it. So he'd still have to be able to hit Superman, and his max speed is nowhere near Superman's. |
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Feb 8, 2014 13:14:56 GMT -5
Assuming Superman has to KO or Kill Juggernaut the battle takes forever but eventually Juggernaut wins, as Superman can't hurt the Juggernaut.
Superman can always do the Hulk trick of using Juggernauts own momentum against him and send him into a lake or what have you but he would come back.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 8, 2014 13:16:06 GMT -5
Also, Jugs can't fly. Clark wouldnt even have to engage even if he was vulnerable. Just fly up high enough, and heat vision the shit out of him from the stratosphere.
Nothing Jugs could do that Kal can't counter or avoid entirely.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 8, 2014 13:44:49 GMT -5
I never understood when Marvel fans try to claim that some mid-level Marvel nobody character could supposedly take Superman in a fight. It's not gonna happen people.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 8, 2014 13:49:38 GMT -5
Assuming Superman has to KO or Kill Juggernaut the battle takes forever but eventually Juggernaut wins, as Superman can't hurt the Juggernaut. Superman can always do the Hulk trick of using Juggernauts own momentum against him and send him into a lake or what have you but he would come back. Juggernaut has to be able to hit Superman... which he can't. Superman can fly and is faster than even Juggernaut at top speed. Also Superman could just drag/throw Juggernaut into space  |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 8, 2014 14:08:02 GMT -5
Popeye
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 8, 2014 15:11:25 GMT -5
I never understood when Marvel fans try to claim that some mid-level Marvel nobody character could supposedly take Superman in a fight. It's not gonna happen people. Pretty much. I've seen people make arguments for Luke Cage taking Superman. I love Cage, but come the f*** on. |
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 8, 2014 15:18:37 GMT -5
I never understood when Marvel fans try to claim that some mid-level Marvel nobody character could supposedly take Superman in a fight. It's not gonna happen people. Pretty much. I've seen people make arguments for Luke Cage taking Superman. I love Cage, but come the f*** on. That is ridiculous. I mean, I could see Juggernaut putting up a fight if Superman decided to fly at him head on while he was running, but Cage wouldn't win unless he got a kryptonite blood transfusion. |
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