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Post by chrom on Jun 26, 2015 12:56:52 GMT -5
I think Jeff killed any shot of this Fed being a thing last night and Dixie killed any dignity she had left. I didn't know she had dignity
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jun 27, 2015 0:05:08 GMT -5
Doesn't make sense at all to me. If you are trying to start a new brand why on earth would you want anything to do with TNA. From the 6 sided ring to appearing on Impact. No matter what he does many people won't give it a chance as it will have the "TNA" stigma attached to it and TNA is the most toxic brand in pro wrestling right now.
Only way this makes any kind of sense is if he is buying out TNA. If not he has potentially destroyed his brand before it gets off the ground.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 27, 2015 0:09:16 GMT -5
TNA is the most toxic brand in pro wrestling right now. Wrestling revolution Project and IWA MS say Hello.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jun 27, 2015 0:23:17 GMT -5
TNA is the most toxic brand in pro wrestling right now. Wrestling revolution Project and IWA MS say Hello. Considering TNA is a national brand (barely) and the fact that no one ever talks about IWA or WRP I give the nod to TNA.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 27, 2015 5:12:43 GMT -5
Wrestling revolution Project and IWA MS say Hello. Considering TNA is a national brand (barely) and the fact that no one ever talks about IWA or WRP I give the nod to TNA. The amount of people talking about a fed means nothing to this argument. Thanks to Ian Rotten the IWA MS name and brand is 100 times more toxic than TNA has ever been. Mostly because Ian has done way worse things than Dixie has.Has Dixie ever admitted to paying talent with prescription pills? Has Dixie brought in a back yarder,then beat him so badly he got major injuries? Has Dixie ever tried to stab one of the Knockouts with a screwdriver? Has Dixie ever held a show with all the money raised suppose to go to helping buy a gravestone for a young girl,then spent the money at a casino.Hell has Dixie ever gotten wrestling banned from VFW halls in Kentucky? Nope but Ian has done all the above and much more. But I get it most people here love to hate on TNA. I am not a TNA fan,but I also am not one of the people eagerly awaiting it to die. Why? Because having less places for wrestlers to work is bad for the wrestling industry.
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Post by Vern on Jun 27, 2015 5:50:06 GMT -5
Considering TNA is a national brand (barely) and the fact that no one ever talks about IWA or WRP I give the nod to TNA. The amount of people talking about a fed means nothing to this argument. Thanks to Ian Rotten the IWA MS name and brand is 100 times more toxic than TNA has ever been. Mostly because Ian has done way worse things than Dixie has.Has Dixie ever admitted to paying talent with prescription pills? Has Dixie brought in a back yarder,then beat him so badly he got major injuries? Has Dixie ever tried to stab one of the Knockouts with a screwdriver? Has Dixie ever held a show with all the money raised suppose to go to helping buy a gravestone for a young girl,then spent the money at a casino.Hell has Dixie ever gotten wrestling banned from VFW halls in Kentucky? Nope but Ian has done all the above and much more. But I get it most people here love to hate on TNA. I am not a TNA fan,but I also am not one of the people eagerly awaiting it to die. Why? Because having less places for wrestlers to work is bad for the wrestling industry. I agree with you except for your last point. Sometimes you just have to cut out the dead flesh so the wound can heel. If anything TNA has been holding the industry back by souring public/advertiser perception of non-WWE wrestling and hoarding and wasting talent. The death of TNA might very well breathe new life into other groups. At this point TNA's not an alternative, it's an albatross.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jun 27, 2015 6:00:05 GMT -5
Considering TNA is a national brand (barely) and the fact that no one ever talks about IWA or WRP I give the nod to TNA. The amount of people talking about a fed means nothing to this argument. Thanks to Ian Rotten the IWA MS name and brand is 100 times more toxic than TNA has ever been. Mostly because Ian has done way worse things than Dixie has.Has Dixie ever admitted to paying talent with prescription pills? Has Dixie brought in a back yarder,then beat him so badly he got major injuries? Has Dixie ever tried to stab one of the Knockouts with a screwdriver? Has Dixie ever held a show with all the money raised suppose to go to helping buy a gravestone for a young girl,then spent the money at a casino.Hell has Dixie ever gotten wrestling banned from VFW halls in Kentucky? Nope but Ian has done all the above and much more. But I get it most people here love to hate on TNA. I am not a TNA fan,but I also am not one of the people eagerly awaiting it to die. Why? Because having less places for wrestlers to work is bad for the wrestling industry. I want TNA to do well and I hope they succeed.I think it is best for wrestling for them to succeed and give guys more places to earn a living. I do think they are beyond saving at this point though. With that said I do think TNA as a national brand is extremely toxic and due to brand name will be difficult to get any outside party to invest in them. IWA is extremely minuscule and was never near being a national fed so while they are indeed toxic (and much worse than TNA in my opinion) I still don't consider them as toxic as TNA due to the size and scope of monetary loss of TNA. You mention TNA to people and there is an instant negative connotation, mention IWA:MS and many people will have no idea what you are talking about. Due to that fact alone I will say that TNA is more toxic. I honestly didn't realize IWA:MS was still a thing until you mentioned them here. In reality it is comparing apples to oranges due to the difference in sizes of the promotion.
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Post by jimmyjames on Jun 27, 2015 6:15:52 GMT -5
That's the look of a man who can't wait until he quits his job for good. It's as if you can see Aries counting down the days he has left in TNA in his head.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 27, 2015 14:41:25 GMT -5
There's a youtube user by the name of FancamGuy who has a handful of videos from the June 13/14 shows. That name "Heavenly Bodies" was supposed to be ironic, right? Maybe Heavenly Bodies is supposed to infer that they look like corpses. Word is making the rounds that the KOTM match is going to be for a KOTM title...which Jarrett will win and then that's GWF's championship. Just...there are no words to how stupidly beautiful this week has been.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 1:13:51 GMT -5
TNA is the most toxic brand in pro wrestling right now. Wrestling revolution Project and IWA MS say Hello. I know the history with iwa ms but what the deal with wrp? Never heard of them...can't be any worse then iwa ms or xpw.
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Post by mattyy on Jun 28, 2015 1:36:52 GMT -5
Wrestling revolution Project and IWA MS say Hello. I know the history with iwa ms but what the deal with wrp? Never heard of them...can't be any worse then iwa ms or xpw. they were a promotion that shot two seasons worth of content, but never got coverage. it was a kickstarter and when they didn't get picked up, the guy that started it took all the donation money and ran, without giving any of the donators any of the promised incentives.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jun 28, 2015 1:42:41 GMT -5
Wrestling revolution Project and IWA MS say Hello. I know the history with iwa ms but what the deal with wrp? Never heard of them...can't be any worse then iwa ms or xpw. a promotion created by Jeff Katz in 2011 who got funding for it from Kickstarter. they shot like thirteen episodes in three days, and were going to shop it around to some networks. years later it still wasn't on television, and Katz wouldn't give an update on its status. he finally released a statement saying they had edited it and would be released on dvd and/or online, and since the fans had waited so long, he was going to give the Kickstarter money back to the people who donated. that was two years ago, and (to my knowledge) the shows still haven't been released, nor have the donators gotten their money have
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Post by Dragonfly on Jun 28, 2015 1:45:52 GMT -5
TNA is the most toxic brand in pro wrestling right now. Wrestling revolution Project and IWA MS say Hello. Speaking from experience, I fully believe that Dale Gagne(r)'s fake AWA/Wrestling Superstars Live needs to be included in the conversation.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 28, 2015 2:01:39 GMT -5
So, getting back on topic to GFW itself, since TNA is likely taping all the way to September, this begs the question of when the hell we'll see the shows that will be taped in Vegas on 7/24, if at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 2:02:52 GMT -5
This whole thing feels like a Russo Swerve in the making.
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Post by markymark on Jun 28, 2015 11:35:06 GMT -5
So, getting back on topic to GFW itself, since TNA is likely taping all the way to September, this begs the question of when the hell we'll see the shows that will be taped in Vegas on 7/24, if at all. GFW 7/24 tapings are supposed to be television tapings but they dont have a tv deal yet...., so Will DX pick them up? JJ is waiting for TNA to be at the state of WCW 2001 so he can buy it for peanuts, he is being smart here, its just a matter of time....
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 28, 2015 18:38:01 GMT -5
Wrestling revolution Project and IWA MS say Hello. I know the history with iwa ms but what the deal with wrp? Never heard of them...can't be any worse then iwa ms or xpw. WRP was funded by a kickstarter that some Hollywood script writer started. Raised a huge amount of money and he filmed a a seasons worth of episodes. Whoever backed the kickstarter was suppose to be sent a dvd of this season. Well that never happened ,the episodes have never aired. And the guy behind it refuses to talk about it. Basically a bunch of people got ripped off by a hollywood type using kickstarter to get money out of wrestling fans. Wiki page about WRP
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jun 29, 2015 0:08:02 GMT -5
I know the history with iwa ms but what the deal with wrp? Never heard of them...can't be any worse then iwa ms or xpw. WRP was funded by a kickstarter that some Hollywood script writer started. Raised a huge amount of money and he filmed a a seasons worth of episodes. Whoever backed the kickstarter was suppose to be sent a dvd of this season. Well that never happened ,the episodes have never aired. And the guy behind it refuses to talk about it. Basically a bunch of people got ripped off by a hollywood type using kickstarter to get money out of wrestling fans. Wiki page about WRPI thought he had a mental breakdown while editing the project that was documented? He had some big names as a part of the project who cost a lot of money, so it wasn't as if he used a bunch of jobbers and ran with the money.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 29, 2015 1:29:25 GMT -5
WRP was funded by a kickstarter that some Hollywood script writer started. Raised a huge amount of money and he filmed a a seasons worth of episodes. Whoever backed the kickstarter was suppose to be sent a dvd of this season. Well that never happened ,the episodes have never aired. And the guy behind it refuses to talk about it. Basically a bunch of people got ripped off by a hollywood type using kickstarter to get money out of wrestling fans. Wiki page about WRPI thought he had a mental breakdown while editing the project that was documented? He had some big names as a part of the project who cost a lot of money, so it wasn't as if he used a bunch of jobbers and ran with the money. No idea about the breakdown. But right at 2 years ago he said the backers from the kickstarter would be getting their perks. And since then nothing has happened.
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Post by Vern on Jun 29, 2015 4:48:08 GMT -5
I thought he had a mental breakdown while editing the project that was documented? He had some big names as a part of the project who cost a lot of money, so it wasn't as if he used a bunch of jobbers and ran with the money. No idea about the breakdown. But right at 2 years ago he said the backers from the kickstarter would be getting their perks. And since then nothing has happened. Didn't he release some of the footage recently? I remember video of a battle royale...?
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