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Post by JTG Fan on Apr 11, 2014 0:29:50 GMT -5
Seriously though We'd probably have a thread that they hot shotted the title to someone that's been a joke for 95% of their tenure in the company with no build. This is what it's more about for me. As best I can tell, EY had one singles match on Impact in 2013 (he lost). He had about 3 in 2012, including one against Angelina Love. These are the issues that make it hard for me to believe he just won the TNA World Title. The Daniel Bryan ripoff stuff is just the cherry on top.
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Post by bluemeii on Apr 11, 2014 0:31:03 GMT -5
I feel that EY has become a much better serious baby face in recent months, but as said before, TNA is so incompetent that they couldn't build up a storyline and a big moment at the next pay per view, as mentioned before. It's such an easy one as well. A guy was never thought of as a serious contender, becomes a serious contender, and they build off of that. Magnus says that he can't do it, he's just Eric Young, the funny guy. TNA does those personal vignettes so well too, and they could make a bunch of those. There was so much potential with this. Part of the problem is the total lack of depth on the roster. There wern't many rungs for him to go through to build himself up. There's like 4 credible heels. Roode is involved with Bully Ray, Storm is feuding with Gunner, Abyss is with Magnus, Magnus is the champ. After that it drops off a cliff to like Sam Shaw and the Bro Mans...Shaw's a new wrestler working this dark gimmick that needs to be protected, Bro Mans are tag champs. The budget cutter has also claimed the ability to properly build up talent. So the budget cutter is really the biggest heal in TNA?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 11, 2014 0:35:35 GMT -5
Part of the problem is the total lack of depth on the roster. There wern't many rungs for him to go through to build himself up. There's like 4 credible heels. Roode is involved with Bully Ray, Storm is feuding with Gunner, Abyss is with Magnus, Magnus is the champ. After that it drops off a cliff to like Sam Shaw and the Bro Mans...Shaw's a new wrestler working this dark gimmick that needs to be protected, Bro Mans are tag champs. The budget cutter has also claimed the ability to properly build up talent. So the budget cutter is really the biggest heal in TNA? Well, it certainly ain't Magnet.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Apr 11, 2014 0:38:28 GMT -5
Fantasy Booking time
Have EY still win the royal rumble gauntlet. Announce the match for the main event but have Abyss jump and injure EY when he's making his entrance postponing the match till Sacrifice. Next week is a tag match. EY & Whoever vs Mango & Abyss. Have EY get beaten down badly during the match to underline that EY is outgunned. The following week, EY gets his revenge for the beatdowns and takes Abyss out of the equation. Whether that's during a contract signing or whenever but end Impact with him standing tall. Come Sacrifice, EY vs Mango in the main event. Have Abyss try and interfere during a ref bump but have EY take him out with a weapon. Mango takes control of the match and attempts to take out EYs leg to soften him up for the Texas Cloverleaf. He locks it in but EY refuses to tap and grabs the ropes. Then do something and have EY piledrive him for the win.
An easy three or so weeks worth of storyline. Still not great but it's better than doing everything within two hours.
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Post by The Portable Stove on Apr 11, 2014 0:40:49 GMT -5
So, Magnus wins the belt back at Sacrifice? Or are we going to wait and see if Batista or Kane wins the belt at Extreme Rules and base the results off of that? I like Eric Young, he's always been great, but when was the last time he won a singles match before tonight? It's like if Barry Horowitz pulled a double-shocker, beating Skip and then toppling Diesel in the main event.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Apr 11, 2014 0:42:00 GMT -5
I do agree that they should've waited till Sacrifice for him to win the title, but still, congrats to Eric Young!
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Post by Paco on Apr 11, 2014 0:54:14 GMT -5
I can totally understand the criticisms.
However, I'm a huge EY fan so, instead of over-thinking of how we got to the Title win, I'm just gonna enjoy this.
Dude deserves it. When he gets to show it, he's one of the best in-ring guys out there. He's always entertained me whether serious or comedic. So happy for him.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 11, 2014 1:03:12 GMT -5
So, Magnus wins the belt back at Sacrifice? Or are we going to wait and see if Batista or Kane wins the belt at Extreme Rules and base the results off of that? I like Eric Young, he's always been great, but when was the last time he won a singles match before tonight? It's like if Barry Horowitz pulled a double-shocker, beating Skip and then toppling Diesel in the main event. Last match won prior to tonight was a 12 person tag on the Genesis special in Jan. Last Singles match won prior to tonight: Sept. 19, 2013 over Robbie E. in 4 seconds. I honestly cannot find the last no gimmick or screwy crap singles match he won.
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Post by peter on Apr 11, 2014 1:20:48 GMT -5
So, Magnus wins the belt back at Sacrifice? Or are we going to wait and see if Batista or Kane wins the belt at Extreme Rules and base the results off of that? I like Eric Young, he's always been great, but when was the last time he won a singles match before tonight? It's like if Barry Horowitz pulled a double-shocker, beating Skip and then toppling Diesel in the main event. Considering Sacrifice is a week before Extreme Rules, TNA will be forced to cancel the show to wait and see what WWE does.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 11, 2014 1:27:51 GMT -5
So, Magnus wins the belt back at Sacrifice? Or are we going to wait and see if Batista or Kane wins the belt at Extreme Rules and base the results off of that? I like Eric Young, he's always been great, but when was the last time he won a singles match before tonight? It's like if Barry Horowitz pulled a double-shocker, beating Skip and then toppling Diesel in the main event. Considering Sacrifice is a week before Extreme Rules, TNA will be forced to cancel the show to wait and see what WWE does. Sacrifice will end with both men throwing a punch as the screen goes black. Next Impact MVP announces they will pick the match up starting with the punch* at the first NYC show where they then use the ER finish. *Neither participant will appear on Impact before then as we are to believe they have been frozen in mid-punch until the match resumes.
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Post by peter on Apr 11, 2014 1:33:12 GMT -5
Considering Sacrifice is a week before Extreme Rules, TNA will be forced to cancel the show to wait and see what WWE does. Sacrifice will end with both men throwing a punch as the screen goes black. Next Impact MVP announces they will pick the match up starting with the punch* at the first NYC show where they then use the ER finish. *Neither participant will appear on Impact before then as we are to believe they have been frozen in mid-punch until the match resumes. Hahahahahaha!!!!
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Post by grunt on Apr 11, 2014 1:57:11 GMT -5
I know it's easier to say "LOLTNA, they ripped off WWE/Bryan", but if you think about it, you realize it probably had nothing to do with that.
Fact is, TNA has built the past month (and more) of tv around the idea that Joe kept on being screwed over re: the title ; TNA has clearly been writing something that would have ended up at Sacrifice, with a Joe win over Magnus ; and then, possibly, since Abyss/EY would also end at Sacrifice, transition into a Joe/EY feud, that was teased here and there ; problem : Joe is currently concussed.
Which means that barring the certainty of a healthy Joe at Sacrifice, TNA just had to do some last-minute rewrites, to fill the Joe void. Which means building a new storyline from scratch, a storyline that would stem from already preexisting storylines, and that could lead to the original ending (Joe vs EY for the title, post-Sacrifice).
What we got here was exactly what exactly that : in Joe's absence, EY has sneaked his way into the title scene, and defeated Magnus : Joe will be pissed off when he'll return, hence a feud ; in the meantime, TNA can fill Joe's void by having Magnus ask for a rematch vs EY at Sacrifice (or before), which will be enough to drive the show, story-wise, until the PPV.
Now timing-wise, what were they gonna do ? They only have one live show, so of course the big feel good moment was going to happen there. And since they couldn't just throw EY into a one on one title match, they had to set up the Gauntlet beforehand. Yeah, on the surface, it looks like the usual "have Bryan fight twice a night" that WWE has been doing for months to fill Raw airtime... but in EY's case, I feel it was justified by Joe's unforeseen medical condition. As far as i was concerned, watching it happen, instead of jumping on the "LOLTNA" bandwagon, it made sense to me that they'd choose to rewrite the storyline that way to give EY that big moment on their live show... even though it will probably be only a brief reign.
(also, given the fact that Bryan's win was so predictable, I think I marked out much more for EY's victory ; but then again, for some reason, I feel that Bryan's ring work is getting more and more repetitive, these days, so I tend to be less and less involved in his matches as time passes)
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Post by Ryushinku on Apr 11, 2014 3:04:29 GMT -5
Eric's a good guy and a good wrestler. He's been a staple for TNA for many years.
Still makes this look laughably copycat. Doesn't matter if it wasn't even intended that way - pardon my skepticism there - that's the way it looks.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 11, 2014 3:17:00 GMT -5
They used the same injury Bryan had at PPV for EY tonight. They could even bother to make it his leg since Magnus uses a Cloverleaf as his occasional finish or anything else that isn't the same injury they used for Bryan. That isn't being written into a corner, it is laziness.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Apr 11, 2014 3:30:51 GMT -5
They used the same injury Bryan had at PPV for EY tonight. They could even bother to make it his leg since Magnus uses a Cloverleaf as his occasional finish or anything else that isn't the same injury they used for Bryan. That isn't being written into a corner, it is laziness. little column A, little column B
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Apr 11, 2014 4:04:27 GMT -5
While EY absolutely deserves this, it's amazing how TNA blatantly rips off WWE. If anyone should be given a chance it's Eric but not like this.
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Post by BigAl on Apr 11, 2014 4:48:57 GMT -5
Too bad Daniels or Kazarians contract might be up, they deserve a title shot since theyve been with tNA just as long as EY.
But then again, whom else they could have gven the belt to, Norv Ferman or Dewey Barnes?
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Apr 11, 2014 5:00:44 GMT -5
I'm just amazed that he did it using a move that goes against the code of the locker room.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 5:48:10 GMT -5
A long heel championship reign should not be ended with such little build-up. Build up EY properly as a real contender, have the match at a PPV, make it a big deal.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 11, 2014 5:55:32 GMT -5
Just hit me, not only was this a near shot for shot remake of Wrestlemania, it was also damn near identical to RVD's TNA title win over AJ. Wrestle and win the opener, have the heel's crony who has helped him escape with the belt banned by the face authority figure and do the shocking changing.
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