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Post by psychokiller on Apr 13, 2014 16:10:08 GMT -5
Back in 2009 or 2010, Heyman was in talks of going to TNA, but he wanted things to be done his way or he wouldn't do it. Heyman had a 5 year plan where the first 18 months were to build a roster, than the next 18 months would be exploiting that roster. Than he would have stuck around another 2 years. But how do you think TNA would be in 2014, if TNA accepted his offer?
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Post by Glitch on Apr 13, 2014 17:42:59 GMT -5
This depends if Heyman had actually been serious about his offer, and not trolling tna.
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Post by kinginthenorth on Apr 13, 2014 17:45:28 GMT -5
TNA would be bankrupt, and Heyman would be in court for money laundering and embezzlement.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Apr 13, 2014 19:11:35 GMT -5
We wouldn't have had Hogan, Bischoff, Crazy old man Flair, Val Venis beating Christopher Daniels clean in the middle of the ring, Authority Figure Dixie and Bubba the Love Sponge.
For the last two alone it would have been money well spent.
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Post by Sam Punk on Apr 15, 2014 11:09:11 GMT -5
They'd be dead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 11:37:20 GMT -5
If Dixie's incompetence hasn't killed it yet Paul E. wouldn't have either.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 15, 2014 11:42:53 GMT -5
No different than they are now really. Even if he was serious, Dixie has never stuck to one plan for longer than 2 years and they still had contracts that they would not be able to afford once Momma Carter's morning mimosa was late and she got a unbuzzed look at the balance sheets. They might have been better received by people or gotten slightly better ratings but none of it would have mattered in the long run.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Apr 15, 2014 12:04:15 GMT -5
Wasn't one of Heyman's ideas to bring in Daniel Bryan after the whole tiegate incident? If so, the Yes Movement wouldn't be a thing so that's a pretty a huge impact on WWE.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 15, 2014 12:51:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 13:54:03 GMT -5
12.7 ratings on average, beating everything else on TV.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 15, 2014 13:57:59 GMT -5
People would still quit over money issues.
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Post by The Gambler Fan on Apr 15, 2014 14:46:46 GMT -5
People would still bitch about how much they hate TNA.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Apr 15, 2014 15:04:04 GMT -5
I think they'd be in FAR better shape than they currently are now, as I've always thought that not giving Heyman what he wanted was a SERIOUS mistake by Dixie/TNA (Trolling or not). 1. I think he probably would have stayed true to his word of getting rid of all the vets save for a couple (most likely Kurt Angle and perhaps Sting/Foley), which would have been a HECK of a better idea than Hogan/Bischoff/Russo's "I Love the 90's" 2010/11, which was just pathetic, considering WWE owned the rights to anything they were trying to use (The Horsemen/NWO/ECW), which made TNA look VERY third rate to any new fans that Hogan/Bischoff might have brought in with them. 2. No new Monday Night Wars, at least until Heyman's TNA had a few years to build momentum.....if it would have happened at all. I think Heyman would have been smart enough to build a good solid BUZZ for TNA before he even imagined taking on "The E." 3. The emphasis would have been put where it SHOULD HAVE been put all along.....the stars of today/tomorrow, rather than the names of yesterday. Samoa Joe, AJ, the Beer Money Guys, the MCMG'a, ect would be Solid Main Eventers for TNA now, rather than either no longer with the company/non entities as they are now. Add to that guys like Austin Aries, Kazarian, Jay Lethal, Desmond Wolf, ect......TNA would be in VERY good shape, star-wise, right now. 4. In addition, Heyman would have probably gotten Daniel Bryan after Tie-gate, and Punk when his contract was up in 2011....in addition, he might have even gotten Brock to "Cross The Line," rather than go back to WWE. And this isn't even counting the various ROH/Indie names who might have jumped to a Heyman Booked TNA, rather than staying in ROH/going to WWE. TNA/WWE would look VERY different now, compared to how things developed in the non TNA/Heyman timeline. I mean, think about a TNA with Punk, DB, Joe, AJ, Roode, and Aries (and who knows who else) as your main eventers, with guys Angle/Brock/Hardy/RVD( ) being Special Attractions.....a totally rebuilt Tag (Remember the Smackdown 02/03 tag division), X, and Women's division......I don't see how a Heyman booked/written TNA WOULDN'T have done well.
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Post by Hurbster on Apr 16, 2014 20:25:47 GMT -5
And who is going to pay for all that ?
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 16, 2014 20:37:16 GMT -5
Bouncing checks left and right...
So in the exact same place!
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Post by kinginthenorth on Apr 16, 2014 22:06:35 GMT -5
And who is going to pay for all that ? Well, presumably, Panda Energy. They didn't stop footing the bill for five years of shit and celebrities. I don't see why they'd stop for....good stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 0:04:49 GMT -5
I think EY would have still ended up being the TNA champion, but with more of a Dreamer-esque build and not so Asylum-Studios-WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 1:18:16 GMT -5
It depends on way too many things. Can Paul clear out the backstage crap? I doubt it.
Said backstage crap will still as they do now, go running to Dixie and easily get a good idea replaced with a bad one. Dutch Mantel said it was who was first to get to Jeff that got an idea put on TV.
Would Heyman have fired Russo?
By Getting rid of older guys he would have missed out on Daniels who has easily been the best part of Impact more often than not. And who is to say that Paul wouldn't have gone along with signing Hogan anyway? Remember one of ECW's top guys was Terry Funk.
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Post by thegame415 on Apr 17, 2014 1:28:00 GMT -5
Probably not too much of a difference. The thing with Heyman is he has a great mind for wrestling. He doesn't understand business.
For example, if Heyman was in charge of WWE, Cena would've turned heel. That's where bad business comes in, and he costs the company millions in merchandise sales.
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Post by mattyy on Apr 17, 2014 1:32:16 GMT -5
well, they'd have Bryan Danielson.
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