Does anyone else hate suicide dives?

[Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift]

I feel like other than Seth Rollins, almost none of the modern suicide dives ever really connect. Like occasionally it happens but it always just feels like they hit them with at most a forearm and then fall awkwardly to the ground; it happens so often now that I've really noticed how rarely the move actually looks cool, like being overexposed to a special effect and realizing how fake looking it is.

Anyone else notice the recent overdose of suicide diving, and have the same corresponding deterioration effect?

[thelonewolf527]

I hate the Suicide Dive where the user of the move gets up as if they didn't just essentially dive head first at a 250+ pound object

Especially when they were getting destroyed the whole match beforehand. I think at Mania Bryan was getting his ass kicked, then did TWO suicide dives in succession immediately and I hated it since he pretty much no sold the beating, then no sold the first dive. Yeah yeah adrenaline and all that, but I think there comes a point where it just becomes straight up no selling on too high of a scale. He's not the only one who's done it, but it's the most recent example I can think of

[rnrk supports BLM]

The thing I've noticed is that nearly all the time, they set up a spot where the (face) diving wrestler goes down for at least as long as their opponent and loses their momentum, setting up a stretch when the heel will be in control of the match.

Which makes you start wondering why guys do it at all, much like how wrestlers STILL Irish whip their opponents to the ropes and then bend over to perform a back body drop on them even though it'll always, ALWAYS be countered.

[mrjl]

Apr 15, 2014 17:51:05 GMT -5 Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift said:

I feel like other than Seth Rollins, almost none of the modern suicide dives ever really connect. Like occasionally it happens but it always just feels like they hit them with at most a forearm and then fall awkwardly to the ground; it happens so often now that I've really noticed how rarely the move actually looks cool, like being overexposed to a special effect and realizing how fake looking it is.

Anyone else notice the recent overdose of suicide diving, and have the same corresponding deterioration effect?

no, I actually like them that way. I never much cared for earlier style suicide dives, the result of the match should have always been a double countout imo, but doing it so they slam into their opponent but can mostly catch their feet or otherwise no land that hard seems smart to me.

[Pushed to the Moon]

They're pretty overdone at this point and they've lost the wow factor. On Raw Cole completely no sold one of them into the group of guys in the Shield match. Didn't even raise his voice.

[Apricots And A Pear Tree]

Apr 15, 2014 17:54:22 GMT -5 thelonewolf527 said:

I hate the Suicide Dive where the user of the move gets up as if they didn't just essentially dive head first at a 250+ pound object

Especially when they were getting destroyed the whole match beforehand. I think at Mania Bryan was getting his ass kicked, then did TWO suicide dives in succession immediately and I hated it since he pretty much no sold the beating, then no sold the first dive. Yeah yeah adrenaline and all that, but I think there comes a point where it just becomes straight up no selling on too high of a scale. He's not the only one who's done it, but it's the most recent example I can think of

You must hate AR Fox.

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They're dumb with wrestling booked like it is Today.

It's called a "suicide dive" for a reason. Both guys should be dead for a minute. If you just snap right back up, the move might as well be a hammerlock it means nothing.

[Wrestling Curmudgeon]

I read this as "suicide divas" at first.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

I think we the fans have to take some of the blame for this. If wrestlers didn't do these things, we just write them off as "boring" and so they feel compelled to do such moves in order to get over.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

I hate when they do it with a giant group of guys and the ones waaay in the back sell it like death.

Last night Swagger wasn't even anywhere near Rollins when he did his dive, but Swagger collasped like a ton a bricks anyway. That'd looked really dumb.

[jjdash]

I'm not a big fan of dives in general. More often than not they look like they only clip the person receiving it. Either that or the guy on the ground just has to stand around like an idiot waiting for it.

[Raskovnik]

Even Luke Harper is throwing them out in like every single match he's in. They've fallen out of favor with me.

[________ has left the building]

I recommend not watching any lucha libre, 80% of indy wrestling, or any wrestling involving athletic competitors.

[Mista T]

suicide dive is the new clothesline

[Blindkarevik]

I dunno, to me, they're predictable yet crowd-pleasing spots.

Like in an action movie, you know the bomb is gonna get crazy close to blowing up before they defuse it... you know it's going to do that, but you kinda accept it because it still breeds a bit of suspense.

There HAVE been instances where the target either moves, or uses the other guy's momentum to crash into the barricade. So they do try to mix it up from time to time.

I just think a bit of predictability can be good... like the backdrop spot and the "dive off the top rope really awkward looking because you're bracing for the opponent to bring his knees up" spot.

I will admit, they tend to be way less impressive than they were 25 years ago... to the point where when Erick Rowan did it, rather than freak out that a guy his size was doing it I was like, "Ah, okay.. ."

But I'm still cool with their existence, even if it can be overused.

[Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift]

I think my main gripe is they so often clearly don't really connect, and it feels like a running, diving, gentle forearm push

[Deleted]

I'm a big fan of Austin Aries's variation, where he goes through the 1st and 2nd ropes. He gets so much velocity on it then goes lower and it makes the move really impressive.

[Lazy peon]

I'd like them more if they didn't do them 5 times a week

[The Ichi]

I prefer the over-the-top-rope variation to the through-the-ropes one.

Taker > Bryan

[Pooh Carlson]

I like the suicide dive but waaaaaaaay too many people are doing them these days. At least Bryan, Harper, and Rollins do it on the regular.