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Post by psychokiller on Apr 17, 2014 0:00:20 GMT -5
It kind of sucks that things didn't work out for them in WWE. Both could have easily been top stars in my opinion, but injuries, bad luck & bad booking ruined their WWE careers. They dropped the ball completely with MVP. I think due to being in prison, it was hard for him to travel to certain countries so they didn't want to make him a top star due to that. It just really sucks since he was main event material in WWE. He went from being one of the best heels on the roster, to a face character who hardly did anything worth remembering. And with Kennedy he had extremely bad luck on his side due to injuries at the wrong time, and that thing about going on TV mentioning never taking steroids anymore, than getting caught a little later. I still remember a lot of fans comparing them to Austin & The Rock as the 2 new potential mega stars in wrestling, but WWE dropped the ball really bad in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 0:02:32 GMT -5
And now they are the present of TNA.
MVP I think left of his own accord didn't he?
Kennedy - yeah, I think WWE saw that he was kind of a one-note performer and ran out of things to do with him on top of the injuries and stuff.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Apr 17, 2014 0:02:56 GMT -5
I never was sold on Mr. Kennedy. He was someone who was good on the mic and was mediocre in the ring at best. MVP I'll admit WWE dropped the ball on. I think he could have been something if he stuck around.
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Post by psychokiller on Apr 17, 2014 0:05:42 GMT -5
And now they are the present of TNA. MVP I think left of his own accord didn't he? Kennedy - yeah, I think WWE saw that he was kind of a one-note performer and ran out of things to do with him on top of the injuries and stuff. Yeah, MVP left on his own because he was basically tired of not being used. His last year or two he was completely underused for some reason. He had mega star potential since he was a great all around performer, but they stuck with the same old guys at the top instead.
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Post by Lila on Apr 17, 2014 0:07:23 GMT -5
And I'm sure he left because he originally wanted to work in Japan anyways and stayed working here to gain a clean image in the Japanese promotions' eyes.
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Post by psychokiller on Apr 17, 2014 0:09:35 GMT -5
And I'm sure he left because he originally wanted to work in Japan anyways and stayed working here to gain a clean image in the Japanese promotions' eyes. I highly doubt he would have left WWE if he was being pushed as a main eventer. It would have been absolutely stupid of him to leave if he was one of the top stars in the company making really good money.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 17, 2014 0:10:22 GMT -5
One wanted to hone his skills elsewhere and the other didn't evolve as a performer and was becoming injury prone. It happens.
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Post by Lila on Apr 17, 2014 0:11:05 GMT -5
And I'm sure he left because he originally wanted to work in Japan anyways and stayed working here to gain a clean image in the Japanese promotions' eyes. I highly doubt he would have left WWE if he was being pushed as a main eventer. It would have been absolutely stupid of him to leave if he was one of the top stars in the company making really good money. True, be has gone to talk about wanting to work in Japan in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 0:22:43 GMT -5
You think the WWE dropped the ball on them? Imagine what the one person who thought Sylvester Terkay was going to be a megastar feels like... Probably feels like a dumbass.
I quickly realized Mr. Kennedy was going nowhere. I wish MVP was given that feud with Orton on Raw. He could've gone further than he did. A missed opportunity.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Apr 17, 2014 0:28:46 GMT -5
There's been a whole lot of guys in the last decade who were supposed to be future of WWE who peaked and fizzled out without ever displacing Cena and Orton. I get the feeling the rise of a new generation is going to be less about talent than who's in the right place at the right time, when Cena finally gets too injured to work fulltime anymore.
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Post by bluemeii on Apr 17, 2014 0:35:53 GMT -5
MVP...definitely a star, idk about someone you are gonna build your whole company around. That whole losing streak thing (that never works btw) really killed him but he was pretty much out the door and headed to Japan at that point anyway. Kennedy? ?...That one trick pony got exposed pretty early on, and made a complete ass out of himself and his employer in the national media. He got exactly what he deserved.
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Post by gangstalicious on Apr 17, 2014 0:44:56 GMT -5
MVP definitely had star potential. I really don't know why they never pulled the trigger with him.
I personally never cared for Kennedy though. I guess he could have been an upper mid-card heel if used right.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Apr 17, 2014 0:49:47 GMT -5
A friend of mine explained Mr. Kennedy best. He's like if Dane Cook put on wrestling boots.
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Post by psychokiller on Apr 17, 2014 0:55:22 GMT -5
MVP...definitely a star, idk about someone you are gonna build your whole company around. That whole losing streak thing (that never works btw) really killed him but he was pretty much out the door and headed to Japan at that point anyway. Kennedy? ?...That one trick pony got exposed pretty early on, and made a complete ass out of himself and his employer in the national media. He got exactly what he deserved. I disagree about Kennedy completely. He had big star potential. They wouldn't have put him in a long feud with Taker if they didn't think he had any potential to be a star. And they wouldn't have given him the MITB win if they didn't see anything in him. Where horrible luck was on his side was when he got injured soon after, and they thought he was going to be out for months when he actually was only going to be out for around 6 weeks. But the steroid thing did ruin the illegitimate son story line, & it's possible they might of took the briefcase off of him too if they didn't previously. We'll never know with that. But he did have a lot of bad luck on his side, and some unfortunate circumstances.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Apr 17, 2014 1:18:58 GMT -5
There's been a whole lot of guys in the last decade who were supposed to be future of WWE who peaked and fizzled out without ever displacing Cena and Orton. I get the feeling the rise of a new generation is going to be less about talent than who's in the right place at the right time, when Cena finally gets too injured to work fulltime anymore. I think that's what's happening right now. WWE in the 00's was an unprecedented time period - with no WCW for guys to defect to, top stars stayed in one place far longer, and in far greater numbers, than at any previous time in WWF history. The natural life of main eventers was prolonged. I think this is why we had such a mass of former world champions on the roster - WWE kept bringing new people into the title picture at the same pace as years before, but could never give up the reliable main eventers. Just to illustrate the point - Wrestlemania 30 had a lot of big torch-passing moments. Some of the guys passing torches were the guys who were ALSO passing the torch at Wrestlemania 20 - Triple H and Big Show. Some of the others passing torches were from the same era as the 20 torch-passers - Kane and the New Age Outlaws, compared to the Rock 'n' Sock Connection. And the rest were the guys who had the torches passed to them at 20 - Cena (from Big Show) and Randy Orton and Batista (from Triple H and Rock 'n' Sock). It has become unsustainable. Someone at WWE must have realized, holy damn, the Cena-Orton-Batista era has lasted just shy of TEN YEARS. The reliable Attitude leftovers - Undertaker and Triple H and Kane - are winding down. Wrestlemania 30 was a Hail Mary to make sure that there are younger guys on the current roster who will have staying power. In some ways, Daniel Bryan, Bray Wyatt, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, and Cesaro are the right foundation for WWE's future by virtue of their varied talents and abilities. However, they are just as much the beneficiaries of Kane ending a 17-year-run as an upper midcarder; John Cena taking the Undertaker's place as the veteran superstar (with Brock Lesnar taking Undertaker's place as the special attraction who doesn't quite fit in with the rest of WWE's characters); and the building frustration among WWE fans at seeing the same four guys over and over again for a decade. At the end of a decade of stagnation - the guys who made their stars at Wrestlemania 30 are the ones who were in the right place at the right time.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Apr 17, 2014 1:20:51 GMT -5
MVP definitely had star potential. I really don't know why they never pulled the trigger with him. Health and age, I think. Granted, that didn't stop WWE from pushing Batista, but MVP had a bit less going for him than Batista in WWE-logic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 1:20:44 GMT -5
I think you learn a lot from both guys based on their post WWE careers. MVP got better. He's a more natural character now and he wrestles better matches when he has time. Kennedy, on the other hand, was expose as grossly out of his depth on every level whenever he gets slotted in main events.
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Post by thegame415 on Apr 17, 2014 1:21:34 GMT -5
MVP had it all. It's a shame a household appliance did him so much damage.
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Post by bluemeii on Apr 17, 2014 1:22:36 GMT -5
MVP...definitely a star, idk about someone you are gonna build your whole company around. That whole losing streak thing (that never works btw) really killed him but he was pretty much out the door and headed to Japan at that point anyway. Kennedy? ?...That one trick pony got exposed pretty early on, and made a complete ass out of himself and his employer in the national media. He got exactly what he deserved. I disagree about Kennedy completely. He had big star potential. They wouldn't have put him in a long feud with Taker if they didn't think he had any potential to be a star. And they wouldn't have given him the MITB win if they didn't see anything in him. Where horrible luck was on his side was when he got injured soon after, and they thought he was going to be out for months when he actually was only going to be out for around 6 weeks. But the steroid thing did ruin the illegitimate son story line, & it's possible they might of took the briefcase off of him too if they didn't previously. We'll never know with that. But he did have a lot of bad luck on his side, and some unfortunate circumstances. I don't know if what he did with going on TV and telling the whole world how clean he was and then getting busted 2 weeks later would be called bad luck. All the feuds mentioned were before the steroid incident happened. Even with the injury maybe they saw money in the guy. With his penchant for getting hurt and apparent dislike from certain members backstage on what he was like to work with, along with his complete idiocy, can't call it anything but, with the steroid incident it's more like this with him. Also if he is a star and all, why is stuck in mediocrity in another fed with less talent around him ? If he's that good shouldn't he be rising above it and be the star on that show. They tried that there too and it failed and now he's feuding with a green to TV Dexter ripoff in a never ending feud. The cream always seems to rise to the top in this business...and he just hasn't been able to do it now in 2 places. Maybe the fault just lies with him.
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Post by Shark on Apr 17, 2014 1:25:46 GMT -5
Kennedy shot himself in the foot way more than WWE dropped the ball on him. He got hurt all the time, he made an ass out of himself and the company saying he never used steroids only to be busted weeks later. In the end guys like Cena and Orton didn't want to work with him. To me, he's like Jeff Jarrett. A good hand to have in the upper midcard, but not a viable enough guy to make into a main event guy. Not to sound like Stephanie McMahon, but he really is a B+
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