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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Apr 17, 2014 17:25:12 GMT -5
Has anyone even ever kicked out of it?
And if it's not, then what is?
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Apr 17, 2014 17:26:51 GMT -5
The Atomic Legdrop beat a helluva lot of the all-time greats.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 17, 2014 17:28:48 GMT -5
I think Orton kicked out of the Knee at Mania when Bats threw Bryan out of the ring and tried to steal the pin.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 17, 2014 17:31:29 GMT -5
I think Orton kicked out of the Knee at Mania when Bats threw Bryan out of the ring and tried to steal the pin. Yup. Only one so far. |
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Post by Topher is Human on Apr 17, 2014 17:34:37 GMT -5
I think Orton kicked out of the Knee at Mania when Bats threw Bryan out of the ring and tried to steal the pin. Yup. Only one so far. Though to be fair Orton has been taken out by that move so many times, it makes sense for him to have built up a tolerance. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 17, 2014 17:36:44 GMT -5
Though to be fair Orton has been taken out by that move so many times, it makes sense for him to have built up a tolerance. I figure it is more because of the delay between hitting the move and the pin attempt, due to Batista trying to steal it. Clothesline from Hell might be something with the lowest percentage of people kicking out versus those down for three, but JBL's retired, so I guess it is out of contention. |
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Apr 17, 2014 17:41:06 GMT -5
Nobody ever kicked out of the Rough Ryder(ever since it became a finisher). The fact that Ryder has never managed to hit it on someone who could kick out of it is of no concern to my selective obliviousness when making this point.
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Post by airraidcrash on Apr 17, 2014 17:42:03 GMT -5
Big Show's punch is one of the most protected finishers ever. Only Sheamus kicked out of it once and even Undertaker jobbed clean to it.
So far I think nobody has kicked out of Reigns' Spear or Cesaro's Neutralizer.
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Post by Woo on Apr 17, 2014 17:45:35 GMT -5
I'd say the Knee+ is up there with Reigns' spear, Cesaro's Neutralizer, Big Show's KO Punch, whatever Ambrose and Rollins do and The Big Ending.. Orton kicked out of the knee+, but as pointed out it was mainly due to the gap between when the move hit and the pin.
What about the Unprettier? That always seems to finish things... Though did Cena kick out of that at the Chamber or am I thinking wrong?
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Post by Cela on Apr 17, 2014 17:46:43 GMT -5
Though to be fair Orton has been taken out by that move so many times, it makes sense for him to have built up a tolerance. Just had a great idea for a borg style mega push for some jobber. Let's say... Ryder, has taken these moves for so long, that he is no longer affected by any of them. He's kicking out of tombstones, chokeslams, triple powerbombs no problem. He goes on a massive streak and turns heel because no one can beat him. Then comes some new up and comer... with a snapmare. |
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Post by Cela on Apr 17, 2014 17:47:37 GMT -5
Big Show's punch is one of the most protected finishers ever. Only Sheamus kicked out of it once and even Undertaker jobbed clean to it. So far I think nobody has kicked out of Reigns' Spear or Cesaro's Neutralizer. Trips did get up pretty quick with no ill effect from that spear during the first Shield vs. Evo showdown. |
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Apr 17, 2014 17:48:13 GMT -5
Big Show's punch is one of the most protected finishers ever. Only Sheamus kicked out of it once and even Undertaker jobbed clean to it. So far I think nobody has kicked out of Reigns' Spear or Cesaro's Neutralizer. Taker did, last year. |
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Post by Woo on Apr 17, 2014 17:50:06 GMT -5
Though to be fair Orton has been taken out by that move so many times, it makes sense for him to have built up a tolerance. Just had a great idea for a borg style mega push for some jobber. Let's say... Ryder, has taken these moves for so long, that he is no longer affected by any of them. He's kicking out of tombstones, chokeslams, triple powerbombs no problem. He goes on a massive streak and turns heel because no one can beat him. Then comes some new up and comer... with a snapmare. Love that idea. Or to put a spin on it Ryder having been subjected to every finisher going now knows a reversal or escape from every hold. Similar to Portia Perez's gimmick of being invincible to the bodyslam. |
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Apr 17, 2014 17:51:11 GMT -5
I'd say the Knee+ is up there with Reigns' spear, Cesaro's Neutralizer, Big Show's KO Punch, whatever Ambrose and Rollins do and The Big Ending.. Orton kicked out of the knee+, but as pointed out it was mainly due to the gap between when the move hit and the pin. What about the Unprettier? That always seems to finish things... Though did Cena kick out of that at the Chamber or am I thinking wrong? I think Orton kicked out of it several times during their infamous 2011 feud. Can't be sure since it's a while since I've watched some of their matches but I seem to remember him kicking out of it. |
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Post by Neo: "The One" who CLAPS on Apr 17, 2014 18:03:56 GMT -5
I'd say the Knee+ is up there with Reigns' spear, Cesaro's Neutralizer, Big Show's KO Punch, whatever Ambrose and Rollins do and The Big Ending.. Orton kicked out of the knee+, but as pointed out it was mainly due to the gap between when the move hit and the pin. What about the Unprettier? That always seems to finish things... Though did Cena kick out of that at the Chamber or am I thinking wrong? I think Orton kicked out of it several times during their infamous 2011 feud. Can't be sure since it's a while since I've watched some of their matches but I seem to remember him kicking out of it. I'm a finisher geek, yes, Orton kicked out of it, at both MITB 2011 and Summerslam 2011. Bryan has also kicked out of it, at Elimination Chamber. If you want to go really back, Jericho's kicked out of it at WMXX. Those are all I know of. But I also found that if there was a delay between the move hit and the pin, that it doesn't count as much, but I do love the idea that Orton has built up a tolerance. |
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Apr 17, 2014 18:08:18 GMT -5
Yeah, the delay thing I think negates the kick out.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 17, 2014 18:17:11 GMT -5
Nope. It's gotta be the jumping Complete Shot, why do you think so many rookies always use it?
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Post by mizerable on Apr 17, 2014 18:48:47 GMT -5
The low blow in front of the referee ends the match, every time!!
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 17, 2014 18:57:38 GMT -5
I wish more moves were protected like Knee Plus, Pedigree and even the RKO are. Seeing the AA, STF, Ankle Lock, Angle Slam and even Chokeslam to name a few meaning nothing unless the person is facing someone Ryder level at best is annoying. Bryan kicking out of the Pedigree was a huge deal because of how few times that has been done (at least recently) and the same for Orton kicking out of the Knee +.
I am not saying it should never be done, just save it for something major, not just a PPV main event or big time RAW match.
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Post by bocahontas on Apr 17, 2014 19:01:56 GMT -5
Looks like the Neutralizer is the only current finisher to not be kicked out of.
But that move is usually a follow-up to a big combo.
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