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Post by mrbananagrabber on Apr 18, 2014 21:30:39 GMT -5
I was going to make this into a poll, but figures I'd probably forget someone.
So with MitB and having two champions at one time for many years, we're now seeing a lot of former world champions relegated to mid-card status, but who's been hit the hardest?
The Miz? Dolph? Swagger? Christian?
Discuss.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 18, 2014 21:33:19 GMT -5
Khali.
Swagger is still a semi-credible threat good enough for a random TV main event.
Miz and Dolph both still have the general perception of being "stars" in spite of how far they've fallen.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 18, 2014 21:33:24 GMT -5
Miz went from winning the main event of Wrestlemania to struggling to make any PPV match, no one else can come close to that.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 18, 2014 21:33:32 GMT -5
The Miz forsure. Main Eventing Wrestlemania to jobbing to Santino. No good
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Apr 18, 2014 21:34:37 GMT -5
I didn't even THINK of Khali.
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Post by JTG Fan on Apr 18, 2014 21:37:01 GMT -5
It's hard to say, they all go through rough periods, some at the same time. In spring 2012 Brodus Clay went over Miz, Swagger, and Ziggler, all former champs. And boy, they really followed up on that push. Ryback did the same several months later, and while he himself never became WWE or World Champion, seeing him lose tag team matches on Superstars to Los Matadores is still very jarring.
I would probably go with Miz only because his highs were higher than any of the other guys by virtue of headlining WrestleMania against Cena. Mark Henry is a sleeper candidate at well, I am beginning to suspect he will spend the reminder of his career in the midcard/jobber to the stars category.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 18, 2014 21:40:51 GMT -5
It's hard to say, they all go through rough periods, some at the same time. In spring 2012 Brodus Clay went over Miz, Swagger, and Ziggler, all former champs. And boy, they really followed up on that push. Ryback did the same several months later, and while he himself never became WWE or World Champion, seeing him lose tag team matches on Superstars to Los Matadores is still very jarring. I would probably go with Miz only because his highs were higher than any of the other guys by virtue of headlining WrestleMania against Cena. Mark Henry is a sleeper candidate at well, I am beginning to suspect he will spend the reminder of his career in the midcard/jobber to the stars category. Ryback is still pretty protected. Doesn't Axel take all the pins in their matches? I don't think anyone outside of main eventers and former main eventers is ever allowed to pin him.
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Post by nickcave on Apr 18, 2014 21:41:53 GMT -5
The Great Khali, when was the last time he did anything of meaning? He doesn't even work well as a special attraction anymore with his limited mobility. The last time Khali meant anything was in 07-08. It's been a full six years since he's done anything besides Khali kiss cam and a pointless feud with Jinder Mahal.
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Post by austinariesfan88 on Apr 18, 2014 21:45:11 GMT -5
I say Miz, from headlining Wrestlemania and beating Cena, to jobber who might get a win here and there, and a dumb segment that's a waste of time.
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Post by Ken: The Hero of WWE on Apr 18, 2014 22:27:10 GMT -5
Almost anyone who held the SmackDown title from 2010-2013.
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Post by Shark on Apr 18, 2014 23:59:25 GMT -5
It's Miz. Khali is semi retired by now and he's found more of a niche as a comedy act. Miz is nothing right now and he was pushed far more than Khali as champion. Khali was just holding it for Batista for about a month. Miz was champion and perceived as the top guy for months and main evented Mania and won that match. That's a much farther fall.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Apr 19, 2014 0:11:09 GMT -5
Khali is at least a huge star in his home country. Miz is a big star nowhere.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 19, 2014 0:19:30 GMT -5
Khali is at least a huge star in his home country. Miz is a big star nowhere. It's clear the Miz is a huge Hollywood star. Not just anybody can star in the Marine 3!
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Post by Starshine on Apr 19, 2014 0:21:37 GMT -5
Khali is at least a huge star in his home country. Miz is a big star nowhere. It's clear the Miz is a huge Hollywood star. Not just anybody can star in the Marine 3! He's even held in such regard as other great movie stars like John Cena and Ted DiBiase Jr.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 19, 2014 0:35:28 GMT -5
Miz went from winning the main event of WrestleMania 27 to getting eliminated from a battle royale by Santino Marella at WrestleMania 30. And that was actually a step-up from last year, when he just barely made it on to the pre-show.
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Post by Jeremy on Apr 19, 2014 0:40:53 GMT -5
Christian. Injuries help but Christian.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 19, 2014 0:42:02 GMT -5
Miz went from winning the main event of WrestleMania 27 to getting eliminated from a battle royale by Santino Marella at WrestleMania 30. And that was actually a step-up from last year, when he just barely made it on to the pre-show. He won the Intercontinental Championship last year. That should've been the moment that "made" him as a face.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 19, 2014 0:45:08 GMT -5
Mark Henry is a sleeper candidate at well, I am beginning to suspect he will spend the reminder of his career in the midcard/jobber to the stars category. Beginning?
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 19, 2014 0:51:34 GMT -5
Del Rio. Simply by being Del Rio, there's no further to fall.
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Post by Crimson on Apr 19, 2014 0:58:14 GMT -5
Out of the people listed, the Miz. He had the biggest fall because he, legit, went to the highest point. He walked in the Wrestlemania main event with the top belt and retained (Rock interference aside.) Compare that to Ziggler (who had a minute long joke reign), Swagger (who carried the WHC during the height of it's second tier status) and Christian (who was given a pity run because of Edge's retirement). There's really no contest.
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