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Post by horsemen4ever on Apr 22, 2014 11:22:30 GMT -5
So how come Shawn Michael and Diesel never dropped the tag titles towards the end of 1994, instead they broke up, the title was vacated without them being beating, there was a tag team tournament.
I thought that was weird booking, why didn't they just drop the titles, have a miscommunicationg cost them the titles, it was the right thing to do, instead you make the next tag team champions look weak because they never beat them.
Was this the kliq and their shanagans at work here?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 22, 2014 11:41:03 GMT -5
I don't think it was as much the Kliq refusing to job though I could be wrong. I mean they had Shawn be the reason that Diesel lost the IC title. I think it was just a case of Vince being set in his mind that Diesel had to win the title at the house show. Especially with Kid being one of the guys to win the tournament (even if for a night) I doubt Shawn or Diesel would care dropping the belts to him.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 22, 2014 11:51:27 GMT -5
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Post by horsemen4ever on Apr 22, 2014 11:54:13 GMT -5
Funny that you mentioned it, I don't think anyone has lost more titles that didn't involve losing a match than Shawn Michaels.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 22, 2014 12:23:43 GMT -5
It seemed a bit of a waste putting it on them since they just vacated it and they knew at Summerslam the seeds of a break up was sown. Should have just kept them on the Headshrinkers.
Even Owen and Anvil would have been a better choice at taking them at thar point they could have had a series of matches with Bret and Bulldog for them, even had that as the SSeries Main Event, seems they didn't make the big of a deal of Bulldogs return than they should have IIRC.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 22, 2014 13:57:49 GMT -5
McMahon has never liked his top babyfaces losing, and when you have two guys who aren't fans of jobbing out on top of that... let's go on a vacation!
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Post by Woo on Apr 22, 2014 17:41:43 GMT -5
Isn't it true that before his 2002 comeback Shawn Michaels had not lost over half his WWE titles? There's this one, the time he lost his smile, him walking away with the IC belt...
Pure politics in my view.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 22, 2014 18:46:41 GMT -5
Isn't it true that before his 2002 comeback Shawn Michaels had not lost over half his WWE titles? There's this one, the time he lost his smile, him walking away with the IC belt... Pure politics in my view. Also, Shawn and Diesel's second tag reign is still counted even though the titles were given back to Yoko and Owen the night after they won them. ...Also, while technically he lost the European Championship in the match, it was in a joke match to HHH rather than putting someone over or anything. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 22, 2014 18:59:42 GMT -5
Kliq shenanigans, they didn't need the belts, they certainly weren't prepared to put over any of the teams in the tag ranks but they had to have them anyway.
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Post by Sparvid on Apr 22, 2014 19:07:46 GMT -5
Isn't it true that before his 2002 comeback Shawn Michaels had not lost over half his WWE titles? There's this one, the time he lost his smile, him walking away with the IC belt... Pure politics in my view. And when he did lose a title, how often did he not proceed to win it back from the same person (Sid, Marty) |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 22, 2014 20:00:54 GMT -5
Isn't it true that before his 2002 comeback Shawn Michaels had not lost over half his WWE titles? There's this one, the time he lost his smile, him walking away with the IC belt... Pure politics in my view. Also, Shawn and Diesel's second tag reign is still counted even though the titles were given back to Yoko and Owen the night after they won them. ...Also, while technically he lost the European Championship in the match, it was in a joke match to HHH rather than putting someone over or anything. It actually goes even further back, at least to the Rockers winning the tag titles from the Hart Foundation - as Neidhart was leaving the company - but the ropes broke during the match, rendering it a mess. Neidhart was rehired and with him back and the footage too poor to air, they nullified the reign. Looking at his Wikipedia, he and Jannetty even vacated some tag straps in the AWA (they won the main tag straps, so had to drop a secondary title). |
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Post by turkeysandwich on Apr 22, 2014 20:24:58 GMT -5
It always struck me as funny that AJ Lee was a "belt mark" for tattooing the date she achieved her childhood dream of winning the top female title in WWE, since people backstage supposedly think its just a "fake prop," but Shawn apparently isn't even though somehow he continuously found ways to avoid losing the "props" in fake fights.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 22, 2014 21:00:23 GMT -5
If HBK lost the title in the ring, it was to a friend or Taker threatening to kick his ass if he didn't. HBK doesn't lose titles in the ring, ever.
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Post by BigBadZ on Apr 22, 2014 21:35:36 GMT -5
Vacant and Void won the tag titles in 1994?? Against HBK, no less... Shawn might be Mr. Wrestlemania but Vacant's greatest win/loss record is against ol' HBK himself
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 22, 2014 21:41:40 GMT -5
It always struck me as funny that AJ Lee was a "belt mark" for tattooing the date she achieved her childhood dream of winning the top female title in WWE, since people backstage supposedly think its just a "fake prop," but Shawn apparently isn't even though somehow he continuously found ways to avoid losing the "props" in fake fights. You say that, but Shawn's peers don't often have many kind things to say about him during the 90s, anyway. Shawn himself admits he was often a huge prick. |
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