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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Apr 23, 2014 4:59:53 GMT -5
"Someone... someone different, that breaks the mold, and I don't-- I don't really understand why."
Guy's got no chance without a cute body like Lucky Cannon.
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Post by Derk! on Apr 23, 2014 5:44:00 GMT -5
It still blows my mind that Bray Wyatt used to be Husky Harris.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 5:50:00 GMT -5
It still blows my mind that Bray Wyatt used to be Husky Harris. it still blows my mind that he is I.R.S's son |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 5:53:27 GMT -5
I'm waiting for him to start crying.
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Post by modestgenius on Apr 23, 2014 6:28:09 GMT -5
For some reason when playing Universe mode in the WWE games I always had an affinity to putting Husky and Gabriel in a TV feud where they had matches week after week, always good ones.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Apr 23, 2014 6:31:42 GMT -5
It strikes me funny how almost every success story in WWE always starts with the company having packaged a future mega-star under something so remarkably stupid and unmarketable, that is then only salvaged by said superstar then having to basically create his own gimmick or supply his own ideas to finally break through and succeed.
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Post by modestgenius on Apr 23, 2014 6:40:25 GMT -5
It strikes me funny how almost every success story in WWE always starts with the company having packaged a future mega-star under something so remarkably stupid and unmarketable, that is then only salvaged by said superstar then having to basically create his own gimmick or supply his own ideas to finally break through and succeed. If Daniel Bryan keeps trucking along, he'd be an exception? |
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Post by Texas Tornado on Apr 23, 2014 7:29:02 GMT -5
It strikes me funny how almost every success story in WWE always starts with the company having packaged a future mega-star under something so remarkably stupid and unmarketable, that is then only salvaged by said superstar then having to basically create his own gimmick or supply his own ideas to finally break through and succeed. If Daniel Bryan keeps trucking along, he'd be an exception? Considering he came up with the "YES!" thing (granted he jacked it from Diego Sanchez but still), nope. |
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Apr 23, 2014 8:13:29 GMT -5
I always liked Bray under the Husky Harris moniker as well. Stupid name and he looked like a fool in New Nexus but he still had great mic skills and a natural aura even during the NXT program. The dry, sarcastic Husky was entertaining to me personally but I'm happy he used that charisma of his to create a larger than life phenom in Bray Wyatt.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Apr 23, 2014 8:31:10 GMT -5
It strikes me funny how almost every success story in WWE always starts with the company having packaged a future mega-star under something so remarkably stupid and unmarketable, that is then only salvaged by said superstar then having to basically create his own gimmick or supply his own ideas to finally break through and succeed. Bray Wyatt wasn't Rotundo's idea. |
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Apr 23, 2014 9:00:21 GMT -5
It strikes me funny how almost every success story in WWE always starts with the company having packaged a future mega-star under something so remarkably stupid and unmarketable, that is then only salvaged by said superstar then having to basically create his own gimmick or supply his own ideas to finally break through and succeed. Bray Wyatt wasn't Rotundo's idea. He has been pretty much allowed to run with it as he sees fit. He writes his own promos, and even chose his own music. To think that WWE's original idea was a name that was a rib on his physique is absurd and short-sighted. You'd think with how many times they've created worthless go nowhere characters initially out of guys that have "it" that they'd have learned their lesson and stopped giving gimmicks with no upside. I mean, they made Austin, one of the industry's top draws in history, The Ringmaster, and it was only salvaged by Stone Cold. They made Rock a smiling goody-two shoes jackass until Rocky saved his job and career with The Rock. They made HHH a Connecticut blueblood to simply mock Vince's neighbors, only for Hunter to only escape midcard purgatory by finally being himself. Hell, they made Batista a Deacon, and Cena a "ruthless Aggression" jarhead in trunks until he was almost about to be released and only saved his job by having Steph accidentally overhear him free-styling on a plane. For almost 18 years, WWE has almost exclusively succeeded out of spite of their stupid initial ideas. Doesn't say too much about the creative genius of a company that was ready to fire a guy in 2002 that eventually saved their business for the last ten years. They should learn their lesson and ask themselves when they package a guy : "Is this a character and gimmick that can make us money?" Because if the answer is no, they should go back to the drawing board until it is. |
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Post by superchamp on Apr 23, 2014 10:14:07 GMT -5
It strikes me funny how almost every success story in WWE always starts with the company having packaged a future mega-star under something so remarkably stupid and unmarketable, that is then only salvaged by said superstar then having to basically create his own gimmick or supply his own ideas to finally break through and succeed. Bray Wyatt wasn't Rotundo's idea. Whose idea was it? |
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Apr 23, 2014 11:46:04 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt wasn't Rotundo's idea. He has been pretty much allowed to run with it as he sees fit. He writes his own promos, and even chose his own music. To think that WWE's original idea was a name that was a rib on his physique is absurd and short-sighted. You'd think with how many times they've created worthless go nowhere characters initially out of guys that have "it" that they'd have learned their lesson and stopped giving gimmicks with no upside. I mean, they made Austin, one of the industry's top draws in history, The Ringmaster, and it was only salvaged by Stone Cold. They made Rock a smiling goody-two shoes jackass until Rocky saved his job and career with The Rock. They made HHH a Connecticut blueblood to simply mock Vince's neighbors, only for Hunter to only escape midcard purgatory by finally being himself. Hell, they made Batista a Deacon, and Cena a "ruthless Aggression" jarhead in trunks until he was almost about to be released and only saved his job by having Steph accidentally overhear him free-styling on a plane. For almost 18 years, WWE has almost exclusively succeeded out of spite of their stupid initial ideas. Doesn't say too much about the creative genius of a company that was ready to fire a guy in 2002 that eventually saved their business for the last ten years. They should learn their lesson and ask themselves when they package a guy : "Is this a character and gimmick that can make us money?" Because if the answer is no, they should go back to the drawing board until it is. You've probably already figured this out, but WWE has a serious, SERIOUS problem with self-correction, self-awareness and cognitive dissonance. They KNOW every person they peg as "THE GUY" is going to make them tons of money. They KNOW every character they come up with is going to make the money. And they KNOW that nothing they do is wrong because WWE knows what the fans want the most because they're the WWE. Until they're told different, and even then they have to have it hammered over their head until the viewing audience has gone beyond fever pitch before they acknowledge their mistake, and according to reports, Vince McMahon sees someone like Daniel Bryan and the Yes Movement as his idea and his success story all along. The Empreror has no clothes. |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 23, 2014 11:54:08 GMT -5
They seem to be doing alright with The Shield.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 12:03:54 GMT -5
They're still not ready.
WWE conditions their audience to only accept a cetain prototype and anything that doesn't fit the prototype requires a subversive element to even get on WWE's radar. They have to prove that this thing that WWE didn't create could still work. On the flip though, WWE will continually put out characters that almost never seem to work (a few notable exceptions aside) without even attempting to offer the same kind of proof that it will remotely work.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Apr 23, 2014 13:26:26 GMT -5
On the flip though, WWE will continually put out characters that almost never seem to work (a few notable exceptions aside) without even attempting to offer the same kind of proof that it will remotely work. Da..da..da...Fan..dannn..gooooooooo! |
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Post by Indiana Miz on Apr 23, 2014 14:43:18 GMT -5
"You may know this, you may not know this, but the devil wears cowboy boots. What a coincidence...so do I."
Doesn't exactly fit with the thread, but I've been looking for an excuse to post this.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 23, 2014 14:51:25 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says, Husky Harris was awesome. Bray Wyatt is amazing, but imo Bray Wyatt is an example of fixing something that wasn't broken.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 15:35:09 GMT -5
I was a fan of Husky Harris. Watching the promos from the rookies of that season, he was very underrated for his mic skills at the time. He had a cocky swagger that didn't feel forced or fake. His "army tank with a Ferrari engine" moniker was a great way to describe his offense. I'm glad he found the Wyatt character and got the chance to really show what he's capable of.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 15:47:20 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says, Husky Harris was awesome. Bray Wyatt is amazing, but imo Bray Wyatt is an example of fixing something that wasn't broken. I loved Husky Harris, but it was a pretty dead-end gimmick. There was basically no personality there, the name was awful (though it could be easily chanted, so it had that up on McGillicutty), and the position he was put into he was basically just one of a bunch of faceless drones where he really was never going to get the chance to actually do anything much like how the only people from Nexus who really have done anything are the standouts like Barrett and Slater or the ones who were moved away from it early and pretty much repackaged like Ryback and Darren Young. A move like Bray Wyatt was pretty much essential, not so much that gimmick in its own right but just something more immediately striking like that. Also, his face looked really goofy without the beard to help obscure it and that was probably harder to take seriously than his build was. That being said though, he needs to bring back those kickass boots he used to have. |
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