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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 14:13:23 GMT -5
From what I understand:
1. Hulk Hogan retired in 1992 after beating Sid by DQ at WrestleMania 8, to pursue a movie career and maybe other stuff.
2. WWE loses money throughout the rest of 1992.
3. WWE begs Hulk to come back, and gives Hulk creative control as an incentive.
4. Hulk comes back on RAW in Feb. 1993 to tag team with Brutus Beefcake
5. Hulk loses the WM 9 tag match but then beats Yokozuna about an hour later to become a 5x WWE champion
6. He does just about nothing in WWE (even going to Japan with the WWE title) until he loses the belt back to Yoko at KOTR 93 (final WWE TV appearance until his 2002 comeback)
7. Supposedly Hulk refused to go against Bret Hart at Summerslam.
8. Hulk does some European house shows with Yoko until around August 1993 where he has his final WWE match until the 2002 return.
9. Hulk may have had time left on the 1993 contract but I guess he and Vince agreed to part ways well before it ended?
10. He goes to WCW about 10 months later
How accurate am I? Any missing details I could know?
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Post by horsemen4ever on Apr 24, 2014 15:40:49 GMT -5
In the fall of 1993, on Raw Vince allowed or encourage or even mastermined Savage to bury Hogan on commentary. Savage went on a rant about Hogan's ego and how he betrayed him and this was at the time when they were turning Crush heel and Savage said I hope he (Crush) hasn't been talking to Hogan. I know Hogan and Savage had some real life issures, but McMahon allowed that to happen, and maybe Savage had been McMahon's mouth piece to express his feelings for Hogan.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 24, 2014 15:43:49 GMT -5
The WWE Network has the episodes of Raw where Savage 'buries' Hogan on commentary. I don't have the exact dates but it is around the time that Crush turns heel on Savage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 17:56:38 GMT -5
The Savage rant........was that the one where he started yelling about Hogan (and his wife, IIRC) helping break up his marriage with Elizabeth?
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Post by horsemen4ever on Apr 24, 2014 18:18:04 GMT -5
The Savage rant........was that the one where he started yelling about Hogan (and his wife, IIRC) helping break up his marriage with Elizabeth? No,he didn't personnel stuff like that, he said Hogan was a phony, an ego maniac, etc. He didn't mention he did anything pacific. If you have the Network, check out the 10/11/93 episode, the one in which Razor won the IC title, that has the rant. I think the reason behind it, had something to do with the steroid trial and this was McMahon's way of retaliating. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 24, 2014 19:30:44 GMT -5
Hogan worked 8 house show matches following his title win and prior to losing it back to Yoko. he was off doing Thunder in Paradise most of the time.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Apr 24, 2014 22:30:50 GMT -5
Hogan worked 8 house show matches following his title win and prior to losing it back to Yoko. he was off doing Thunder in Paradise most of the time. I was at one of these rare house shows just days before Hogan lost the title. Hogan (WWF Champ) & Beefcake vs Money Inc for the Tag Team Championships, w/ Sgt. Slaughter as Referee. Slaughter got KO'ed, match went on for a few mins, Hogan reverses the briefcase shot, uses it against Money Inc. Brutus goes for the cover. Hogan counts 1-2-3. Music hits. "new Champs" celebrate w/ the belts. Slaughter wakes up & awards the match to Hogan & Beefcake by DQ & hands the belts back to Money Inc. "Real American" hits again & some more posing from Beefcake & Hogan. It was a real fun close to a truly amazing (& historic) house show. That's my personal "on the spot" recollection of that match. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 2:15:12 GMT -5
In the fall of 1993, on Raw Vince allowed or encourage or even mastermined Savage to bury Hogan on commentary. Savage went on a rant about Hogan's ego and how he betrayed him and this was at the time when they were turning Crush heel and Savage said I hope he (Crush) hasn't been talking to Hogan. I know Hogan and Savage had some real life issures, but McMahon allowed that to happen, and maybe Savage had been McMahon's mouth piece to express his feelings for Hogan.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1ax3StZdY
At around 2:40
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Post by thegame415 on Apr 25, 2014 3:33:02 GMT -5
In the fall of 1993, on Raw Vince allowed or encourage or even mastermined Savage to bury Hogan on commentary. Savage went on a rant about Hogan's ego and how he betrayed him and this was at the time when they were turning Crush heel and Savage said I hope he (Crush) hasn't been talking to Hogan. I know Hogan and Savage had some real life issures, but McMahon allowed that to happen, and maybe Savage had been McMahon's mouth piece to express his feelings for Hogan.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1ax3StZdY
At around 2:40
A Macho Pipe Bomb. |
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Post by willyjakes on Apr 25, 2014 8:11:37 GMT -5
Even before his match with Yoko at KOTR93, WWF commentators would often bring up how Hogan has trimmed down and how Yoko had bulked up and was looking unstoppable. Plus during the damn match they tried to really bury Hogan by having Yoko kick out of the legdrop and having Hulk take forever in knocking him down with the big boot. Plus the aftermath with having Yoko bonzai drop him and Hogan helped off.
It was a massive burial, and a silly one at that. Somehow Vince got it in his sick mind that Hogan was done and that it was ok to let him go to WCW...for a while I don't think they were too sorry it happened. But by 1996 there were.
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Post by Woo on Apr 27, 2014 14:17:13 GMT -5
You also missed the part where Hogan went to Japan and buried the WWF title and said it's basically a toy compared to the Japanese championship he wanted.
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Post by Muskrat on Apr 27, 2014 14:53:24 GMT -5
In the fall of 1993, on Raw Vince allowed or encourage or even mastermined Savage to bury Hogan on commentary. Savage went on a rant about Hogan's ego and how he betrayed him and this was at the time when they were turning Crush heel and Savage said I hope he (Crush) hasn't been talking to Hogan. I know Hogan and Savage had some real life issures, but McMahon allowed that to happen, and maybe Savage had been McMahon's mouth piece to express his feelings for Hogan. Ya, I've been watching the old Raws on the Network, and that whole rant come right out of left field. It was really weird, and seemed so out of character for face Macho Man |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Apr 28, 2014 8:39:12 GMT -5
In the fall of 1993, on Raw Vince allowed or encourage or even mastermined Savage to bury Hogan on commentary. Savage went on a rant about Hogan's ego and how he betrayed him and this was at the time when they were turning Crush heel and Savage said I hope he (Crush) hasn't been talking to Hogan. I know Hogan and Savage had some real life issures, but McMahon allowed that to happen, and maybe Savage had been McMahon's mouth piece to express his feelings for Hogan. Ya, I've been watching the old Raws on the Network, and that whole rant come right out of left field. It was really weird, and seemed so out of character for face Macho Man I agree that it was really weird timing. That being said, Macho was a guy who's character actually stuck to the kayfabe of his character, even as a face. Basically, if a guy did him wrong in the ring in the past, Macho would still mention it and sometimes root for the heels, even if both were currently faces. So, it wasn't totally out of character for him to go on a Hogan rant. |
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Post by Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic on Apr 28, 2014 9:17:49 GMT -5
I saw Hogan at a WWF TV Taping / House Show in Huntington WV in 1993, two days after he lost the belt at the King Of The Ring. It was Hogan/Beefcake vs Money Inc. This site give a good look at Hogan's ring activity during 1993. I remember being very confused at Savage's Hogan rant on Raw. During the build-up to WM IX, Savage talked of Hogan like he was a saint. Now months later we have good guy Savage bad-mouthing good guy Hulk Hogan. I (and I assume many others) thought at the time Hulk would be back in the WWF sooner or later. |
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Post by willyjakes on Apr 28, 2014 12:32:03 GMT -5
I saw Hogan at a WWF TV Taping / House Show in Huntington WV in 1993, two days after he lost the belt at the King Of The Ring. It was Hogan/Beefcake vs Money Inc. This site give a good look at Hogan's ring activity during 1993. I remember being very confused at Savage's Hogan rant on Raw. During the build-up to WM IX, Savage talked of Hogan like he was a saint. Now months later we have good guy Savage bad-mouthing good guy Hulk Hogan. I (and I assume many others) thought at the time Hulk would be back in the WWF sooner or later. perhaps the rumors are true and Hogan-Savage had a scuffle around WM9 and it was Randy who gave him that shiner. |
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Post by willyjakes on Apr 28, 2014 12:36:26 GMT -5
Good find on the site...wow Hogans last WWF match up until his post WCW collapse comeback was in August of 1993, almost a full two months after KOTR.
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 28, 2014 14:02:44 GMT -5
I wonder why Hogan was STILL teaming with beefcake against Money Inc AFTER he won the World title. Contractual obligations possibly, but they could have just thrown in the steiners or bushwahckers or some other team to substitute for the megamaniacs.
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Post by willyjakes on Apr 28, 2014 14:46:33 GMT -5
I wonder why Hogan was STILL teaming with beefcake against Money Inc AFTER he won the World title. Contractual obligations possibly, but they could have just thrown in the steiners or bushwahckers or some other team to substitute for the megamaniacs. Hogan probably wanted to get Brutus some better paydays by involving him in his matches. plus the turnaround between WM 9 and KOTR 93 was relatively short. They couldn't put Hogan in any sort of short term feud at that point(and if they did, let's say Hogan vs Razor, you'd be unnecessarily burying razor), nor could they give him Yoko rematches since that was on the card at KOTR 93. So they just simply went with an already established feud to just waste some time before Hogan drops the belt to Yoko. |
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Post by king1836 on Apr 28, 2014 14:49:33 GMT -5
I consider 1993 to be Hulk Hogan's worst year in the WWF.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 21:58:38 GMT -5
I consider 1993 to be Hulk Hogan's worst year in the WWF. Yeah, it felt really weird. I especially never bought Jimmy Hart as a face. Not only that, but managing the face? |
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