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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Apr 26, 2014 0:01:31 GMT -5
Akeem is all for Danny Glover playing Spider Man. The Absurdist says that, clearly, he is too old for this poop.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Apr 26, 2014 0:35:08 GMT -5
People keep mentioning his meltdown...maybe it's because I tend to shy away from media related stuff, what's that all about? Like, what happened exactly?
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Post by Perd on Apr 26, 2014 0:43:55 GMT -5
First I was like "Why does Pizza Pat sound so familiar." But then I was like "HOLY BALLS! Pizza Pat is back."
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Post by Cela on Apr 26, 2014 14:27:00 GMT -5
Pizza Pat has had a long and arduous journey but Pizza Pat is now back on the internet. Pizza Pat enjoys Childish Gambinos music but Pizza Pat would like to see Donald Glover the actor shine as well, but like Gambino said Maybe he is just to different. At 30 Donald Glover is the perfect age for Nightwing. To old for Robin and to young for Batman. And who has not had some type of breakdown on social media or in front of a camera little tarts like Lindsay Lohan have made a career out of breaking down. The public doesn't care about that they want to see stars crash and burn. A breakdown can be a career booster. People will complain that Donald is black and thus "not true to the comics". Why is that a bad thing? Changing the ethnicity of an established character is a lazy way of appealing to an ethnic group and is more than a little insulting to multiple ethnicities. Make original awesome characters, don't just say "Nightwing is black now."
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Post by RedSmile on Apr 26, 2014 14:52:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Donald Glover died at the Red Wedding.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 26, 2014 16:17:04 GMT -5
People will complain that Donald is black and thus "not true to the comics". Why is that a bad thing? Changing the ethnicity of an established character is a lazy way of appealing to an ethnic group and is more than a little insulting to multiple ethnicities. Make original awesome characters, don't just say "Nightwing is black now." It's not now, nor ever been, about a lazy appeal. Pretty sure all ethnic groups love comic books and superheroes already. Rather it's about telling a different story than the ones we've gotten over and over. If a movie's a great movie but "isn't true to the comics," then just go read the comics. It's different mediums entirely.
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Post by Talent Name on Apr 26, 2014 16:18:39 GMT -5
Death_Watch thinks that Donald Glover would be a good Spider-Man but only Ultimate Spider-Man, Death_Watch further goes on to say that a lot of Ultimate Stuff has been used in Marvel Movies like Falcon. Death_Watch further feels that Donald Glover and his age hold him back from getting the "younger" roles, Death_Watch thinks that he should try for older characters.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 26, 2014 17:02:32 GMT -5
Falcon's not Ultimate, unless we're talking about his wings being different or something.
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 26, 2014 17:17:26 GMT -5
People will complain that Donald is black and thus "not true to the comics". Why is that a bad thing? Changing the ethnicity of an established character is a lazy way of appealing to an ethnic group and is more than a little insulting to multiple ethnicities. Make original awesome characters, don't just say "Nightwing is black now." It's been mentioned many times before, but lots of studios (particularly DC) are very unwilling to do any projects that aren't based on properties over 50 years old, and back then they didn't care about creating lead characters who weren't straight white men, so representation is harder to achieve than you might think. If it's a choice between diversity or looking exactly like the comics, some of us would rather have the former. It's making the best of an unequal situation. People will complain that Donald is black and thus "not true to the comics". He could always play the Miles Morales version of Spider-Man. Hell, I heard the guy is even half the inspiration for the character. Of course it is very unlikely that anything from the "Ultimate" continuity would ever reach the big screen. Especially as a result of Peter Parker's death, but hey I'm just spitballing here. Given that most of the Amazing Spider Man series seems closer to the Ultimate continuity, maybe it's not as unlikely as it seems? I think I've also seen mention that Garfield's said he's not staying for the whole series.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 26, 2014 17:21:06 GMT -5
Maybe because he is the living definition of jack of all trades, master of none. He was like the fifth funniest member of an eight person ensemble cast (or however many there were in the Community study group, I forget, maybe seven) on television, his stand up is like a mix of every single black comedian ever and he has absolutely nothing to say as a rapper. He is very good at all these things, he is not GREAT at any of them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 17:21:44 GMT -5
Only if Sony and Disney hash things out towards a shared universe so they can bring in Daniel Pudi to reprise his important ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) role of Com Tech #1 from Captain America Then we get a Troy and Abed reunion
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Apr 26, 2014 18:13:03 GMT -5
People will complain that Donald is black and thus "not true to the comics". Why is that a bad thing? Changing the ethnicity of an established character is a lazy way of appealing to an ethnic group and is more than a little insulting to multiple ethnicities. Make original awesome characters, don't just say "Nightwing is black now." They WONT make original characters, because that is a risk. Since UA went away 'risk' is a concept the film industry refuses to touch. And fortunately with Battlefield not doing as well as it could, then maybe they wont do Risk either. And unless ethnicity is an actually part of the characterization of the character, and not just the artwork, it doesn't matter. ex:*Johnny Storm is white. Can you tell me his ethnic derivation? German? Danish? French from the island of Reunion? No. You can't. No one flipped out about the FF movies that he wasn't the teenage brother brought along on the maiden voyage of an experimental starship by the grossly irresponsible boyfriend to the Lil' Miss Suzie Homemaker Sue Storm. His racial background, beyond *Luke Cage is black. A lot of his background story is tied up in the fact that he is pretty much a blaxsploitation character. Race has been a central component of his character (even if the early years were far more embarrassing in hindsight) since the start, and NOT just the visual representation. *Steve Rogers was purposefully chosen to be blonde haired, blue eyed and with his ability set to effectively be an attack on Nazi propaganda/ideaologies.. And citing comic universe as the baseline continuity adherence is equally without logical merit. Movie universe(s) are neither 616 or Ultimate. We all have to accept that by now as fans. If it is 616 then Fury has to be David Hasselhoff or some other, equally honkyriffic actor, and Maria Hill has to be at odds with him. If it is Ultimates, then Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver will have not have the incestuous undertones, and ACTUALLY have an intimate physical relationship. Further, Hulk with have to be a murderous, rapacious, psychotic animal. The movies cherry pick a lot of things, and further they have to. They cannot condense ALL the decades of backstory into 100+ minutes. We cannot have all the costume iterations, unless they pull something like the Iron Man movies have done, and that doesn't fit everyone. Now I would prefer they make a Black Panther movie or a Luke Cage movie before changing characters unnecessarily, but ultimately somehow I will survive. Possibly even feed upon the inordinate response of nerd rage.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 26, 2014 18:38:49 GMT -5
We wouldn't have this diversity problem if you guys all went out and bought Meteor Man! Or Blank Man! Or Steel (you can get it on Amazon)! Or Spawn! Or, uh...the Halle Berry Catwoman movie!
I'm just goofing off, don't take anything I say seriously.
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Post by Talent Name on Apr 26, 2014 18:49:39 GMT -5
Falcon's not Ultimate, unless we're talking about his wings being different or something. In the Ultimate Line, the wings are a back like he has, plus he isn't an Avenger or anything like that he is an Agent of Shield and doesn't talk to birds.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Apr 26, 2014 18:56:16 GMT -5
Maybe because he is the living definition of jack of all trades, master of none. He was like the fifth funniest member of an eight person ensemble cast (or however many there were in the Community study group, I forget, maybe seven) on television, his stand up is like a mix of every single black comedian ever and he has absolutely nothing to say as a rapper. He is very good at all these things, he is not GREAT at any of them. I don't understand why Jack-of-all-trades is a negative connotation. Is the presumption that the person lacks the discipline to master a single discipline? Because being proficient in a wide range of skills and knowledgeable in a lot of areas is kind of useful. And it is, in and of itself, difficult as well. Though common parlance these days tends to forget the terms origin generally was in rhyming couplets. ex: "Jack of all trades, master of none, Certainly better than a master of one" "Jack of all trades, master of none, Often times better than a master of one" "Jack of all trades, master of none, Better than Jack of one trade, master of none"
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 26, 2014 19:01:28 GMT -5
Maybe because he is the living definition of jack of all trades, master of none. He was like the fifth funniest member of an eight person ensemble cast (or however many there were in the Community study group, I forget, maybe seven) on television, his stand up is like a mix of every single black comedian ever and he has absolutely nothing to say as a rapper. He is very good at all these things, he is not GREAT at any of them. I don't understand why Jack-of-all-trades is a negative connotation. Is the presumption that the person lacks the discipline to master a single discipline? Because being proficient in a wide range of skills and knowledgeable in a lot of areas is kind of useful. And it is, in and of itself, difficult as well. Though common parlance these days tends to forget the terms origin generally was in rhyming couplets. ex: "Jack of all trades, master of none, Certainly better than a master of one" "Jack of all trades, master of none, Often times better than a master of one" "Jack of all trades, master of none, Better than Jack of one trade, master of none" 'People don't trust someone that does two things well.' - Tom Waits
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Apr 26, 2014 19:21:53 GMT -5
I don't understand why Jack-of-all-trades is a negative connotation. Is the presumption that the person lacks the discipline to master a single discipline? Because being proficient in a wide range of skills and knowledgeable in a lot of areas is kind of useful. And it is, in and of itself, difficult as well. Though common parlance these days tends to forget the terms origin generally was in rhyming couplets. ex: "Jack of all trades, master of none, Certainly better than a master of one" "Jack of all trades, master of none, Often times better than a master of one" "Jack of all trades, master of none, Better than Jack of one trade, master of none" 'People don't trust someone that does two things well.' - Tom Waits ![](http://www.strawberrywine.org/personal_images/gifarrific/eye_narrow.gif) Well played sir. Well played.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 26, 2014 19:24:44 GMT -5
Taco Tim is very pleased to see the return of Pizza Pat. Baba Ghanoush Barry thinks you're both crazy.
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Post by the2ndevil on Apr 26, 2014 19:35:47 GMT -5
Pizza Pat has had a long and arduous journey but Pizza Pat is now back on the internet. Pizza Pat enjoys Childish Gambinos music but Pizza Pat would like to see Donald Glover the actor shine as well, but like Gambino said Maybe he is just to different. At 30 Donald Glover is the perfect age for Nightwing. To old for Robin and to young for Batman. And who has not had some type of breakdown on social media or in front of a camera little tarts like Lindsay Lohan have made a career out of breaking down. The public doesn't care about that they want to see stars crash and burn. A breakdown can be a career booster. People will complain that Donald is black and thus "not true to the comics". I've never understood that "argument". Also never understood why that reaction is never consistent. People complained about Michael Clark Duncan (R.I.P.) as Kingpin, Haven't heard anything negative about Jamie Foxx as Electro, but the casting of the guy from Chronicle as Human Torch is apparently the very worst thing in the history of everything.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Apr 26, 2014 21:00:26 GMT -5
Because he had a large public meltdown on social media and no studio wants to take a risk on a potentially volatile asset who has shown limited appeal in music and television ratings. Community may not be a broad hit but in the male 18-34 demo(aka the one studios depend on most to put asses in theaters) the show is actually one of the highest rated. It's weird to to think every cornbread 20 something hearthrob on the CW/WB at some points get's Hollywood to take a chance on them with a lead in a film role no matter how talentess but Donald Glover(not a white guy) and Allison Brie(not a white guy) who both have the talent and charm for film stardom have never even been given a chance.
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