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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 17:04:59 GMT -5
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Post by Crimson on Apr 29, 2014 22:15:15 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar broke Triple H's arm twice and won the deciding match of the feud. I'm at a loss at to what Shamrock is actually going on about here. Admittedly, Lesnar went pussy mode in the last match and begged Heyman to interfere to prevent himself from tapping out.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Apr 29, 2014 22:40:22 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar broke Triple H's arm twice and won the deciding match of the feud. I'm at a loss at to what Shamrock is actually going on about here. Admittedly, Lesnar went pussy mode in the last match and begged Heyman to interfere to prevent himself from tapping out. Exactly. The layout and booking of the Mania and Extreme Rulez matches were inexcusable. HHH should never have been presented as being physically equal with Lesnar in any way (because he is not). He should have been booked the same way Cena was : valiantly fighting on against a juggernaut and not giving in, despite the severe physical superiority of his opponent. HHH should have been selling 90% in both matches and making hero comebacks. It was not credible the way it was put together and executed.
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Post by Crimson on Apr 29, 2014 22:50:10 GMT -5
Admittedly, Lesnar went pussy mode in the last match and begged Heyman to interfere to prevent himself from tapping out. Exactly. The layout and booking of the Mania and Extreme Rulez matches were inexcusable. HHH should never have been presented as being physically equal with Lesnar in any way (because he is not). He should have been booked the same way Cena was : valiantly fighting on against a juggernaut and not giving in, despite the severe physical superiority of his opponent. HHH should have been selling 90% in both matches and making hero comebacks. It was not credible the way it was put together and executed. Not even to single out Triple H either this is a reoccuring problem I noticed in recent years with Monster Heels booked in prolonged feuds. Mark Henry vs Big Show? Henry crushes show in the first feud, breakin his ankle. Rematch? The two are completely evenly matched and it ends in a draw. Third match, now Big Show is the one dominating the match. Same thing happened when Iron Clad Contract!Big Show feuded with Sheamus. Won the first match clean but every rematch following Show had to throw everything and the kitchen sink just to barely beat Sheamus.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 30, 2014 4:54:57 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar broke Triple H's arm twice and won the deciding match of the feud. I'm at a loss at to what Shamrock is actually going on about here. Admittedly, Lesnar went pussy mode in the last match and begged Heyman to interfere to prevent himself from tapping out. This, sadly, is the double standard of some areas on the internet (not you personally). Brock destroys Cena for 15 minutes before losing to a cheap shot - bullshit Brock should've won! Brock goes over in an appallingly booked match where Triple H seems to be an equal to Brock - Triple H lost but the booking was bullshit!
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 30, 2014 5:20:16 GMT -5
At what point did Ken "snap" in this interview? Or is he just now in a constant state of snapping? That's his secret.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 30, 2014 5:23:31 GMT -5
And then he suplexed the interviewer. To be fair, the interview was already over. Reporter just would not let it go. When did Alberto Del Rio start conducting interviews?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 9:12:19 GMT -5
Admittedly, Lesnar went pussy mode in the last match and begged Heyman to interfere to prevent himself from tapping out. This, sadly, is the double standard of some areas on the internet (not you personally). Brock destroys Cena for 15 minutes before losing to a cheap shot - bullshit Brock should've won! Brock goes over in an appallingly booked match where Triple H seems to be an equal to Brock - Triple H lost but the booking was bullshit! What are you talking about? That's not a double standard. Far from it. A monster heel like Brock losing his first match in nearly ten years? That's bad writing. Brock later being portrayed as scared of HHH? Also bad writing. Just because Brock won one feud and lost the other doesn't change that...
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 30, 2014 9:44:23 GMT -5
This, sadly, is the double standard of some areas on the internet (not you personally). Brock destroys Cena for 15 minutes before losing to a cheap shot - bullshit Brock should've won! Brock goes over in an appallingly booked match where Triple H seems to be an equal to Brock - Triple H lost but the booking was bullshit! What are you talking about? That's not a double standard. Far from it. A monster heel like Brock losing his first match in nearly ten years? That's bad writing. Brock later being portrayed as scared of HHH? Also bad writing. Just because Brock won one feud and lost the other doesn't change that... Because the victor is irrelevant in both cases, or relevant in both cases. You can't have it both ways. Brock nearly killed Cena, and had he disappeared from TV after that match as he implied and should've happened, Brock still would've been put over as a killer. It was only a fraction away from a win via rollup. I'm not saying it isn't stupid that Cena beat Brock, but he didn't even BEAT him really, just won the match and nearly died in the process, and it certainly hasn't done anything to Brock's heat.
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Post by Chestnutrice on Apr 30, 2014 10:04:29 GMT -5
He's right though. Cena made Brock look like a legitimate threat, somebody different from everyone else on the roster. HHH sold him as just another wrestler, why would you do that to the UFC's best draw? He should be presented differently from everyone else on the roster.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 30, 2014 10:09:25 GMT -5
OK, I feel the need to defend poor Ken Shamrock. Is a touch delusional? Yes, he's an olde rover and had a tremendous look. And, as a wrestling confession, I'm proudly the only person in history who will probably say this: Circa 1998 I got Ken Sham rock and The Rock confused all the time. Their names were too similar. But 1 dude was black/Samoan, other dude was white. As well JR feels your pain with Jericho/Benoit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 10:49:16 GMT -5
What are you talking about? That's not a double standard. Far from it. A monster heel like Brock losing his first match in nearly ten years? That's bad writing. Brock later being portrayed as scared of HHH? Also bad writing. Just because Brock won one feud and lost the other doesn't change that... Because the victor is irrelevant in both cases, or relevant in both cases. You can't have it both ways. Says who? ![O_o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/browraise.png) Bad writing is bad writing. What, you want people to say "Oh, Brock's booking is inconsistent but I'm going to ignore that because he won matches by the skin of his teeth"? Both cases involved Brock being booked in a way that didn't use his full potential in people's eyes. Calling both out isnt hypocrisy. I mean, even you admit Brock should've won the match against Cena and should have dominated HHH so I don't understand how you can criticize other people's perspectives when they basically agree with yours. It just sounds like a bunch of nitpicking. Okay, let me play by your rules, then. Let's judge the matches purely by Brock's performances in them. That's the kind of "consistency" you're looking for, right? So tell me, how come Brock can devastate Cena (the main hero of the WWE Universe) but fights on par with HHH, who had been semiretired since 2010?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 30, 2014 10:54:30 GMT -5
I wasn't denying the second match was appallingly booked.
Honestly I haven't had enough coffee today and even I've forgotten what my point was.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 30, 2014 12:45:21 GMT -5
OK, I feel the need to defend poor Ken Shamrock. Is a touch delusional? Yes, he's an old wrestler/MMA guy, that's just what they do to stay relevant. Did he suck in the ring? No, not at all, he was pretty good and had great intensity. The guy was also over like rover and had a tremendous look. And, as a wrestling confession, I'm proudly the only person in history who will probably say this: Circa 1998 I got Ken Sham rock and The Rock confused all the time. Their names were too similar. So I wasn't the only one!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 23:44:39 GMT -5
Give Shamrock a break guys, this interview gave him internal injuries, AGAIN.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on May 1, 2014 1:39:10 GMT -5
I don't know why people are ragging on Shamrock when users on this very same forum (myself included) have said the exact same thing about the dreadful HHH/Brock feud.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on May 1, 2014 10:06:39 GMT -5
Brock, in actuality, should be undefeated at this point booking wise in order to continue the killer vibe. I still believe that having him lose to Cena and Hunter destroyed the aura that he was supposed to have.
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Post by berlynwright on May 1, 2014 11:17:28 GMT -5
did he know brock is a client of paul heyman and conquered the streak at wrestlemania
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 19:26:28 GMT -5
OK, I feel the need to defend poor Ken Shamrock. Is a touch delusional? Yes, he's an old wrestler/MMA guy, that's just what they do to stay relevant. Did he suck in the ring? No, not at all, he was pretty good and had great intensity. The guy was also over like rover and had a tremendous look. And, as a wrestling confession, I'm proudly the only person in history who will probably say this: Circa 1998 I got Ken Sham rock and The Rock confused all the time. Their names were too similar. When I first started watching I got he and Mankind's names backwards.
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Post by kinginthenorth on May 1, 2014 20:26:54 GMT -5
So tell me, how come Brock can devastate Cena (the main hero of the WWE Universe) but fights on par with HHH, who had been semiretired since 2010? Because Triple H is the God-King! The Cerebral Assassin! The Ass-Kicker! The Viking Lord! The Game! And the biggest dick-haver in WWE history, who ISN'T AT ALL BITTER ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE'LL NEVER BE ON THE LEVEL OF ROCK OR AUSTIN BECAUSE HE'S OBVIOUSLY SO FAR ABOVE THEM AND SHUT UP HE'S NOT CRYING.
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